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finally making another video, huh? Ryan,
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it's been a while since we made a video,
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Ryan. It's been a minute. Yeah. But if
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you're new to the channel, our startup
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recently went viral on Twitter. So it
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got over 750,000 views for our launch
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video, about 200k on threads, and 100K
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on Instagram. So that led to like a lot
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of VC inbound. And we just started
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fundraiser going to at first, and we
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raised an extra 100,000 so far. The goal
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was to raise a million, but as we kept
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on raising, we were like, man, like
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momentum started to slow down a little
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bit, and we just really didn't want to
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drag out the whole fundraising process.
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So, the goal now is to get as much
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traction as possible, paying customers,
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and hopefully raise a monster seed
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round. Or maybe Ryan, we won't even need
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a C round, huh? We'll see. Hopefully. I
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mean, you just never know how it goes.
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Definitely sorry for the lack of
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uploads. I know a lot of you guys are in
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the Discord pinging me saying when the
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next video is, but I just been so
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slammed. Ryan just been coding at his
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seat every day. I just been coding here
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every day and also fundraising. But,
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we're back to our weekly or bi-weekly
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videos hopefully. This video should
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definitely be a banger though because in
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the past month I have learned so much
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about fundraising and startups and I'll
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definitely be sharing all that stuff in
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this video. And also we have a couple
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different events we're actually gonna be
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going to. So Rory just invited me to the
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Cluey uh after YC launch party. So I'll
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be going to that next week. And also
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Browser Base has their launch party as
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well. So two good events to go to and
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obviously I'll be vlogging it. But right
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now I need to finish a lot of the front
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end stuff since there's a lot of changes
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we need to make still. And Ryan's also
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wrapping up the back end. A couple more
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changes. And with the busy week going
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on, definitely need to focus on writing
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some code right now and get things
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moving.
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Make that group very very happy. Yeah,
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we get those. Ryan and I, we just uh
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finished our weekly meeting just now and
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just talk about general company stuff,
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direction, and make sure we're both on
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the same page. The past month, I have
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been fundraising and definitely learned
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a lot since my first time fundraising.
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And it's pretty interesting because in
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the beginning, how I approach the
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conversations was that I treat like a
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job interview where the VCs are asking
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me most of the questions and I'm just
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answering them. But what I realized is
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that that's actually not the way to do
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it. You're supposed to be guiding the
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conversation. And how I approach
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fundraising and how a lot of founders
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approach fundraising is that we try to
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pack in as many meetings into two weeks
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as possible because we want to close
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around as quickly as possible, right?
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Mainly because obviously you want to get
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back to doing working on the product and
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talking to customers. Those are at end
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day the most important things. But also
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it really helps with the fundraising
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momentum because as you start to lose
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momentum, it gets harder and harder to
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fund raise. And that's something where
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we weren't too successful in. We had
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calls lined up. We had about probably 30
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to 40 calls, but I think we would have
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closed around if we were able to hit
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into the hundreds number. I simply just
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didn't get enough top the funnel. The
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thing that actually surprised me the
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most was that I wasn't able to really
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deal with the nos as good as I thought I
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would. So, you actually are supposed to
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hear a lot of nos where some founders
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have pitched over hundreds of people
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before they got the first yes. And once
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you get the first lead in, a lot of
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times the rest of the VC just falls in
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line a lot quicker and a lot easier
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since uh getting the lead usually is the
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hardest. And our original goal was that
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like we want to raise a million dollars
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and we raise about 100K. Not super
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disappointed by it. Just mainly because
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I'm just so excited to go to working on
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product cuz I know Ryan, you need a lot
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of help obviously pushing the product,
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making it better. Next time when we go
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back to fund raise aggressively again,
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when we have more traction, we have more
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retention, right? I believe that from
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the learnings this time, I'm going to be
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like a lot more successful going into it
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since I have already done it once,
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[Music]
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I don't know. I'm getting destroyed on
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this bug right now, Ryan. Yeah, I've
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been stuck on the same stuff all day to
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his little thumbnail bug. But coming
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out, get some food real quick. What we
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got? Some Vietnamese food. Dude, I'm
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still thinking about the bug. How's your
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stuff coming, dude? Bar, bro. Like this
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five spice chicken, bro. I'm telling
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you, man. We should just move to mobile
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consumer. You're over here killing it.
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We're here building this hard ass. I
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know, man. application. Dude, about to
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go to mobile consumer. I mean, how's
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your stuff going? Hey, show. Let me show
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them what I got.
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Your stuff coming in? It's bug fixing,
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man. It's up to Gemini today. Tell them
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about it. Oh, so they pushed an update
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on to the Gemini models. So the output
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that we were getting just changed out of
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the blue. So we had to fix the output
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schema. So now you just working on that
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all day or what? Yeah. Yeah. Mobile
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consumer head ass
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bro. I'm doing what? How are you doing
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today? Out of San Francisco as well, you
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said. Cool. Well, I'm glad that you
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connected us. Love to hear a bit more
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about Clover. Interest of mine has
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always been uh video editing. I've been
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making YouTube videos documenting my
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whole startup journey. Uh two other uh
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co-founders I know that I've known for
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over 10 years. So all of us are
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technical and been building a lot of
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different projects together. Moved to
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San Francisco about five months ago just
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building stuff. Been building stuff
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full-time for 3 years. Had this idea
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that I couldn't shake out of my head. I
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can like have a cursor feel to video
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editing at least in the beginning of
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just getting these cuts ready and I can
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tweak on later on. So we decided just
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launch the product because we want to
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see a text prompt versus like going
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through weight list cuz I'm very
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anti-weight. I always see weightless
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decay and never goes well. You know, end
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up going viral. We got about like
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750,000 views on it. So now we're kind
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of back at the drawing board like, okay,
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let's actually really make this
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application good using text prompts to
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edit these videos.
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[Music]
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I can't be a hater for like a week now.
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This guy's cooked, huh? It's cooked,
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bro. Show the show the VC brag post,
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bro. Pull it up. Pull it up. There we
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go. It's made up. Don't worry about it.
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What do you want to say, bro? I
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literally just made that [Β __Β ] up.
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blaming you, dude. They call him Aselon.
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Actually, I'm I'm unlike it. I'm going
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like it again. There you go. There you
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go. Cyrus is an AI attorney. Wait,
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before you delete, how many views did
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the post get? Uh, it hit like 500. Okay.
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And then it was I'm pretty sure it would
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have hit at least 1 to 2 M. And if I
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doubled down, it would probably hit like
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five cuz then I would have just like
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engaged my baited everyone. Still not
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founder friendly, dude. Are you UVC
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friendly?
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Come on. It works both ways, bro. Hey, I
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heard you only write five figure checks,
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dude. That's just five figures. You just
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got so much hate. Hundreds of retweets,
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bro. Cool retweets. Yeah, I had like the
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co-founder of Postmates [Β __Β ] on me. That
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was pretty funny. I had like one of the
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top VCs. Hey man, but you got the big
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dog now. VC brags. Dude, what happens
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when you get cyberbullied? Look, let me
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show you. You go to sleep, bro. It
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doesn't matter. Just turn off the
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computer and go home. Bro, are you
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prereev or you pre-product, dude? All
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right. [Β __Β ] you. Users, bro. Users
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first. All right, bro. Uh, cut this in
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in 10 years when I get kissed. Ah, but
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Rousan the best VC, bro. Unlimited
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office hours. Funn, so clearly a joke.
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Run me another check now. Rouslon, I'll
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vom you after this.
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I need to have you.
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You missed office hours today, Ryan.
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Dude, that's so much code to write, bro.
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I know. We're so behind right now. But
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uh I just realized in this video I
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haven't really uh told you guys what
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we're working on yet. But basically
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we're working on a way for people to be
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able to edit video with text prompts. So
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let's say you have a bunch of raw clips
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you recorded from like a vlog or like
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these YouTube videos I make. Then you
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can just use text prompts to get like
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the first cut and eventually like keep
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editing the videos like through text,
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right? Instead of dragging on a timeline
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and all that stuff that takes up a lot
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of time. Main office hour takeaway today
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while we're talking to Relon is that um
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we have already validated the problem
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right we have a bunch of users that
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signed up a lot of people told us that
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they would love to have this tool but
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now what we need to validate on is that
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to validate the product since we don't
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have like that continuous usage yet even
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though we have got a lot of feedback
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because the product simply isn't good
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enough right now and obviously we're
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working hard on getting it there and I
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believe that next week we should have a
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pretty decent MVP I also have this like
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Twitter marketing campaign I'll be
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running but also Ryan have you seen my
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uh have you seen my laptop I can also
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show like I want to show
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but basically you can basically upload
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your files right well random clips I
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have inspiration link right here so we
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use Gemini to analyze that inspiration
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links to understand like the video style
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but you can see that like over here this
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is actually like around like 70 clips we
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uploaded for like one of my vlogs over
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here create like a string out right so
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like these are like the usual like
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YouTube videos I make and remove like
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all the filler words and then it has
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like different like B- rolls in between.
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I mean, there's still so much still to
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kind of optimize, but we're finally
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making some big strides. I feel like
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once you have this baseline built out,
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like really optimized for speed and
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relaunch again. But it's also live. So,
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if you want to try it out, it should
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load a lot quicker because I have these
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like giant Sony SLOG footage. So, if you
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just have like a fun vlog, you throw it
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in there, you know, love to get some
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feedback on what you guys think about
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the product.
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Finally, uh got a hoop session in. Been
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a long time and just trying to do more
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stuff that kind of ultimately clear my
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head and after this I'm going to go back
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to code. Got a lot more stuff to finish.
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But man, I haven't hooped in like 3 4
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months. So I'm really trying to get back
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in a habit because it was rough today.
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My cardio is not up to place at all.
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Everybody missing today, huh? Mr.
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Bricks, how you feeling? A
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zooted.
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This is hard in fundraising, huh? A lot.
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Got the heart of a lion though. That's
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all you can do now. Yeah. Look at this.
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This shot's going to look nice. Get on
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one of those rooftops, brother.
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[Music]
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It's funny how the startup game is
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always like evolving so fast right now.
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Like people always talk about going
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viral and I also do believe that this is
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going to be a big part for future growth
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for companies. like stars always think
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about it. recently tweet this tweeted
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this about four days ago when I talk
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about like the new startup playbook
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which is launch a rough MVP go viral you
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learn from your user data build a good
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product and launch again retain users
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this is kind of like a brand new
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playbook too so who knows maybe in a
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year we'll look back at this and be like
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wow that was a really dumb tweet that
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did not work out well for all the people
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that tried to do this method but you
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know this is what we're going with right
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now but I think it was interesting
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because what I didn't expect from this
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whole playbook of like going viral
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before a product was really ready was
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how much it was going to hurt to have
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something out there that you're not
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proud of and having a bunch of people
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trying it. Even though before we
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launched I remember I told Ryan and Gon
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like our whole team is that we want to
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have angry people because if we have
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angry people that means that people care
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and this whole launch the purpose was to
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gauge demand and before I launched a
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post obviously I in my mind I I think it
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was going to go viral because there were
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certain boxes I believe that you have to
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tick to go viral where certain
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requirements and I believe we tick all
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those boxes but when it went viral it
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was just really hard on myself mentally
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because I felt like the whole world was
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judging me even though we this that was
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the whole plan was to get the data and
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which we did get the data. So we have
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way better direction. We we know that we
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have demand here and we also saw how
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people were able to prompt the
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application. So we know we learned so
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much from that data of how people used
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it. But in my opinion, I definitely
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think this is worth it because there are
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too many times where people including
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myself have built stuff that nobody has
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used. And when I launched it, I thought
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it was a very polished product. But it's
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a disgusting feeling of not having
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people use your stuff. And Ryan and I,
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we we are not we are no stranger to that
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feeling. Huh, Ryan? Oh yeah. And that's
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how I look at a lot of these things that
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it's like a lot of times going down
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different path like they there will
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always be pain and it just depends on
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which pain you want to go through and
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what is the the risk you're taking,
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right? That will usually give the best
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outcome. And it's interesting because
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this is kind of a new ideology in my
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opinion of like the whole going viral
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method. I'm sure people have done it
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before, but it's not as like mainstream.
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And as I'm kind of going through these
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loops of like these these five sets of
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iteration, it's um I thought to just
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like share more about how I feel and
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what I have learned from it.
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What What are you rocking this Tesla
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for? Uh we're going to a sneaker
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reunion. Sneaker Twitter. Not very
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founder friendly being this late, huh?
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Are you VC friendly though? It's all
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about, you know, how big checks you
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write. It's never about here's what I
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have for you. No one asked me, you know.
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No one asked me how I'm doing. asked me
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to give me money. I'm always the one
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giving money. Why? Why is no one giving
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me money? [Β __Β ] I'm out here busting
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ass trying to trying to make the LPS
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rich. What about me? What about that
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little guy? The thing that because of
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there there's a lot more and it's just
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way easier to run.
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I think I just had the most San
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Francisco experience just now. We just
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left the Adobe office and I'm in a
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Whimo, a self uh driving car back to
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formation, back to Founders, Inc. And
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while I'm in this Whimo right now, I
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thought to also just answer the question
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I probably get asked the most from
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different starter founders is that is it
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worth it being in San Francisco? And
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after moving here from Las Vegas about 5
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months ago, my answer is definitely 100%
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now. Like simply just by the motion of
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being the city, you create so much
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momentum by just meeting different
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people, right? Like by being at Founders
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Inc. where I get to meet all these
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startup founders like the growth has
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been infinite compared to like being
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alone in my apartment and I'm working
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with the most like frontier tech hearing
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about the most recent news just by c
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passing conversations but also today
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like I'm just able to come up come to
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the Adobe office and meet with like the
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partnership team right and these
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conversations where people always talk
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about tech it really elevates you and
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put you at the frontier of like of
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meeting people but also just like
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learning the technology and I know
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people complain all the time they say
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the city's expensive and the city uh is
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dirty, there's homeless and it's crowded
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and I get all that stuff. But really, in
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my opinion, the most expensive thing
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right now in my life as a 25-year-old
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who's building a startup is by not being
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around other ambitious people who are
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also building companies. That's
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something I'm also going to be
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challenging myself to do more these
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upcoming weeks is that to start going to
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more events. I think in the beginning
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I'm like super anti-events. I'm always
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like I just want to sit on my desk at
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Founders Inc. grind, grind, grind, get
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my things going and I'm meeting other
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startup founders there already. But I do
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think that I have been too extreme on
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that side and be able to like not always
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just depend my happiness on how fast I'm
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moving because a lot of times like these
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relationships will also pay dividends
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later and a lot of times these
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conversation really do uh stimulate
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something that I haven't thought about
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before.
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You know, bro, you ever held a steam
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deck? Yeah, hold the steam deck, bro.
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So when you look at John, it like clears
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up. Yeah, it gets light. Dude, this is
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nutty, dude. Oh, wait. How much does
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this cost? The glasses are 600 right
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now. Damn. And you just you just been
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coding with this, huh? You never used
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monitor. I don't have a monitor. This is
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a VR guy right here. Show me this so I
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could like buy this. I need to find a
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way to like show like what it looks like
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on the vlog, but I don't feel like it's
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going to look do it justice. That's the
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biggest problem with marketing VR stuff
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is that there's no way to show people
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what it feels like. I should head with
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this brand and try to get a sponsorship
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or something. Yeah, dude. And tell them
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to get two for me. No, you have one,
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too. No, I got the old the first first
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generation. You got to try it, bro. You
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just got to try put it on, right? They
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they announce I don't get on a plane
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without these anymore. Easy. I'm like,
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so you've been using these on the plane
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all time. All the time, huh? How do I do
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it? Do I keep hold it down? It'll it'll
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like reset where the screen is. You
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can't be hogging it, bro. Now you're
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being selfish.
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I'm with Founders, Inc. Mind if I How
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you doing, sir?
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With saddle. With saddle. Why do we get
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a horse? Um,
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I'm gonna be honest. Not a ton of
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thought was put into this. So, sad we
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got to load the the horse back up into
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the wagon. All right. Is there anywhere
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around here where we could still use the
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horse? Not in the Fort M like the
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national park. I just jump on. No. Yeah.
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[Β __Β ] Oh, feels kind of nutty. What? And
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then like this. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [Β __Β ]
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Oh. Oh.
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Wait, look this way. It's just a horse.
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Horse?
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What are you talking about? Horse?
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You're the one that ordered a horse? I
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didn't order a horse. Look at this, bro.
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I got the horse. Is this like the new AI
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model from Google? Founder Ang's new
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promo video. It's literally your horse
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downstairs. Don't think so. I don't
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think so.
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What' you get? New headphones, man. I
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used to have those AirPods Max, but
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they're getting kind of grimy and they
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just broke out of nowhere. So, got a new
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pair. Trying out these uh these Bose
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ones. What advice do you have for people
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who are trying to build in public?
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It's a good question. Honestly,
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I think everybody should go to public
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because distribution is just going to
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get more and more important these days.
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But I would say the advice really is to
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like start with one platform first.
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That's why I see a bunch of people when
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they start building a public in the
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beginning. They try to be making YouTube
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videos, Twitter, LinkedIn, everything
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and you're going to crash and burn
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because that's just way too much work.
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And for me personally, I started with
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building on YouTube first. And that
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moved to Twitter and even now I still
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haven't moved to really LinkedIn or
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short form yet because I don't have the
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capacity. So I think the first thing is
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to pick one of the social media platform
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and just get really really good at
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making content for that one specific
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one. Oh, these are pretty sick actually.
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Oh, these are scuffed though. Really?
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Yeah, they're scuffed already. I'm going
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to scuff them regardless, so I might as
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well keep it. But but I think the most
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important part is that like people
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simply just don't put out enough
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content.
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You shouldn't really worry about the
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quality of your content until like,
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let's say 30 to 50 tweets later. For
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videos, I would say after 10 videos, you
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should start tweaking because it's about
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getting that confidence, getting that
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momentum, just putting stuff out there
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for this. And the truth is, it's going
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to be bad. If you watch like some of my
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older videos, they're really not that
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good. It takes a while to really get a
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hang of this. And even me myself, like
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the goal is that like 6 months later
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when I look back at these videos I'm
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making, I want to be like, "Wow, these
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videos were not good." And then after
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you put out like 10 to 15 of these
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content like pieces, right? Once you
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catch a rhythm, then you should really
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then start hyper analyzing. Like right,
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we're literally sit in a room and be
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like, "Why does this do well?" And we're
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not thinking about an algorithm
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perspective. Too many people think that
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like you got to appease the algorithm,
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but that's not the that's not actually
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the right way to think about it. The
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right way to think about it is who are
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the audience that watches that like
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consumes my content and that I'm
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targeting and you want to think from
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audience perspective like what makes
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them what makes them tick what makes
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them interested in watching your content
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and why do they want to engage with it
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right I really think everybody should
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build a personal brand I I think it's
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like extremely extremely important to do
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so because as the cost of software is
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coming down assuming you're in the
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software business the distribution boat
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becomes bigger and bigger
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[Music]
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like tell you all about how LinkedIn
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works and you tell us about how X work
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and where do we come from guys? We're
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coming from Spain. We've been one week
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in New York prior to SF and we just got
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to SF yesterday. Yeah, we got invited by
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Andre to a couple of um events. Right
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now we're we're in SF for YC's demo day.
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We have a big following on LinkedIn,
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400,000 followers between the two of us.
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We like founders that are already kind
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of building in public, trying to get
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viral on social media and then we can
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get in and try to amplify that.
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For my first like startup journey, like
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I was reselling a lot of sneakers. So, I
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was writing these sneaker bots, right?
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You think about starting something, you
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don't know what to do first. I think
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like what Dylan said, the first key
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thing is to like figure out like what
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what what cures you, you know? Mine was
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sneakers. Yours is drop shipping. I'm
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sure all of you guys have certain
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different type of interest, right? I I
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want to I want to worry about like the
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the market size, you know, because like
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I think like a lot of the big companies
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you see like a lot of the different
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starters, right? At first the market
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size always seem very tiny. You really
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want to like dominate within that niche
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before you start branching out.
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Right now we are testing a lot of the
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application as you can see uploading a
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ton of video. Ryan, good job on the
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code. Finish up a lot of stuff. Still
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not the perfect MVP where we wanted to
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be. I think next week we'll really get
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to where we want to be at with the pay
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wall and everything like that, but just
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one step at a time, right? We got H
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giving a demo right now. Happy days.
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Uh, hey guys. Here. Nice to meet you.
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Good to meet you guys. How's your stuff
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coming along? Uncle T. It's good. Just
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uh scrolling through avatars. I mean,
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you recently went viral, too, though. We
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went viral like yeah, maybe a month and
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a half ago, something like that. Yeah. I
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mean you're building you want to tell
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you want to tell them what you're
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building pretty cool dev tool stuff.
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Yeah. So I make it really easy to build
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apps uh like real time apps. So voice in
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video in guitar in basically any input
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make it programmable build an app around
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it. Yeah. And let me tell you when when
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everything went down when Google went
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down everything was down. Gabber was up.
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Gabber was up. So if you're building dev
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tools and stuff like definitely check
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out Yeah. gabber.de uncle t which stands
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for uncle testosterone.
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Jesus Christ. Yeah. 8 hours of sleep at
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night. You eat a lot of red meat. Just
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like what do you want to do? This is
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Uncle T, man. What can you do? Check out
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Uncle T's page. I'll see you guys in the
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next one.