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                    finally making another video, huh? Ryan,
                 
            
                
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                    it's been a while since we made a video,
                 
            
                
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                    Ryan. It's been a minute. Yeah. But if
                 
            
                
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                    you're new to the channel, our startup
                 
            
                
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                    recently went viral on Twitter. So it
                 
            
                
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                    got over 750,000 views for our launch
                 
            
                
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                    video, about 200k on threads, and 100K
                 
            
                
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                    on Instagram. So that led to like a lot
                 
            
                
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                    of VC inbound. And we just started
                 
            
                
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                    fundraiser going to at first, and we
                 
            
                
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                    raised an extra 100,000 so far. The goal
                 
            
                
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                    was to raise a million, but as we kept
                 
            
                
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                    on raising, we were like, man, like
                 
            
                
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                    momentum started to slow down a little
                 
            
                
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                    bit, and we just really didn't want to
                 
            
                
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                    drag out the whole fundraising process.
                 
            
                
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                    So, the goal now is to get as much
                 
            
                
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                    traction as possible, paying customers,
                 
            
                
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                    and hopefully raise a monster seed
                 
            
                
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                    round. Or maybe Ryan, we won't even need
                 
            
                
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                    a C round, huh? We'll see. Hopefully. I
                 
            
                
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                    mean, you just never know how it goes.
                 
            
                
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                    Definitely sorry for the lack of
                 
            
                
                    [01:08] (68.32s)
                    uploads. I know a lot of you guys are in
                 
            
                
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                    the Discord pinging me saying when the
                 
            
                
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                    next video is, but I just been so
                 
            
                
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                    slammed. Ryan just been coding at his
                 
            
                
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                    seat every day. I just been coding here
                 
            
                
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                    every day and also fundraising. But,
                 
            
                
                    [01:18] (78.08s)
                    we're back to our weekly or bi-weekly
                 
            
                
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                    videos hopefully. This video should
                 
            
                
                    [01:21] (81.44s)
                    definitely be a banger though because in
                 
            
                
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                    the past month I have learned so much
                 
            
                
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                    about fundraising and startups and I'll
                 
            
                
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                    definitely be sharing all that stuff in
                 
            
                
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                    this video. And also we have a couple
                 
            
                
                    [01:29] (89.76s)
                    different events we're actually gonna be
                 
            
                
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                    going to. So Rory just invited me to the
                 
            
                
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                    Cluey uh after YC launch party. So I'll
                 
            
                
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                    be going to that next week. And also
                 
            
                
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                    Browser Base has their launch party as
                 
            
                
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                    well. So two good events to go to and
                 
            
                
                    [01:41] (101.76s)
                    obviously I'll be vlogging it. But right
                 
            
                
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                    now I need to finish a lot of the front
                 
            
                
                    [01:45] (105.60s)
                    end stuff since there's a lot of changes
                 
            
                
                    [01:47] (107.60s)
                    we need to make still. And Ryan's also
                 
            
                
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                    wrapping up the back end. A couple more
                 
            
                
                    [01:50] (110.80s)
                    changes. And with the busy week going
                 
            
                
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                    on, definitely need to focus on writing
                 
            
                
                    [01:54] (114.72s)
                    some code right now and get things
                 
            
                
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                    moving.
                 
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
                    [02:09] (129.92s)
                    Make that group very very happy. Yeah,
                 
            
                
                    [02:12] (132.00s)
                    we get those. Ryan and I, we just uh
                 
            
                
                    [02:13] (133.68s)
                    finished our weekly meeting just now and
                 
            
                
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                    just talk about general company stuff,
                 
            
                
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                    direction, and make sure we're both on
                 
            
                
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                    the same page. The past month, I have
                 
            
                
                    [02:20] (140.88s)
                    been fundraising and definitely learned
                 
            
                
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                    a lot since my first time fundraising.
                 
            
                
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                    And it's pretty interesting because in
                 
            
                
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                    the beginning, how I approach the
                 
            
                
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                    conversations was that I treat like a
                 
            
                
                    [02:29] (149.76s)
                    job interview where the VCs are asking
                 
            
                
                    [02:31] (151.84s)
                    me most of the questions and I'm just
                 
            
                
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                    answering them. But what I realized is
                 
            
                
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                    that that's actually not the way to do
                 
            
                
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                    it. You're supposed to be guiding the
                 
            
                
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                    conversation. And how I approach
                 
            
                
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                    fundraising and how a lot of founders
                 
            
                
                    [02:41] (161.28s)
                    approach fundraising is that we try to
                 
            
                
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                    pack in as many meetings into two weeks
                 
            
                
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                    as possible because we want to close
                 
            
                
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                    around as quickly as possible, right?
                 
            
                
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                    Mainly because obviously you want to get
                 
            
                
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                    back to doing working on the product and
                 
            
                
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                    talking to customers. Those are at end
                 
            
                
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                    day the most important things. But also
                 
            
                
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                    it really helps with the fundraising
                 
            
                
                    [02:59] (179.60s)
                    momentum because as you start to lose
                 
            
                
                    [03:01] (181.52s)
                    momentum, it gets harder and harder to
                 
            
                
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                    fund raise. And that's something where
                 
            
                
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                    we weren't too successful in. We had
                 
            
                
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                    calls lined up. We had about probably 30
                 
            
                
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                    to 40 calls, but I think we would have
                 
            
                
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                    closed around if we were able to hit
                 
            
                
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                    into the hundreds number. I simply just
                 
            
                
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                    didn't get enough top the funnel. The
                 
            
                
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                    thing that actually surprised me the
                 
            
                
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                    most was that I wasn't able to really
                 
            
                
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                    deal with the nos as good as I thought I
                 
            
                
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                    would. So, you actually are supposed to
                 
            
                
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                    hear a lot of nos where some founders
                 
            
                
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                    have pitched over hundreds of people
                 
            
                
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                    before they got the first yes. And once
                 
            
                
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                    you get the first lead in, a lot of
                 
            
                
                    [03:32] (212.24s)
                    times the rest of the VC just falls in
                 
            
                
                    [03:34] (214.72s)
                    line a lot quicker and a lot easier
                 
            
                
                    [03:36] (216.48s)
                    since uh getting the lead usually is the
                 
            
                
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                    hardest. And our original goal was that
                 
            
                
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                    like we want to raise a million dollars
                 
            
                
                    [03:41] (221.60s)
                    and we raise about 100K. Not super
                 
            
                
                    [03:44] (224.32s)
                    disappointed by it. Just mainly because
                 
            
                
                    [03:45] (225.92s)
                    I'm just so excited to go to working on
                 
            
                
                    [03:47] (227.36s)
                    product cuz I know Ryan, you need a lot
                 
            
                
                    [03:49] (229.04s)
                    of help obviously pushing the product,
                 
            
                
                    [03:50] (230.48s)
                    making it better. Next time when we go
                 
            
                
                    [03:52] (232.16s)
                    back to fund raise aggressively again,
                 
            
                
                    [03:53] (233.92s)
                    when we have more traction, we have more
                 
            
                
                    [03:56] (236.00s)
                    retention, right? I believe that from
                 
            
                
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                    the learnings this time, I'm going to be
                 
            
                
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                    like a lot more successful going into it
                 
            
                
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                    since I have already done it once,
                 
            
                
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
                    [04:16] (256.88s)
                    I don't know. I'm getting destroyed on
                 
            
                
                    [04:19] (259.04s)
                    this bug right now, Ryan. Yeah, I've
                 
            
                
                    [04:21] (261.60s)
                    been stuck on the same stuff all day to
                 
            
                
                    [04:23] (263.20s)
                    his little thumbnail bug. But coming
                 
            
                
                    [04:25] (265.76s)
                    out, get some food real quick. What we
                 
            
                
                    [04:27] (267.60s)
                    got? Some Vietnamese food. Dude, I'm
                 
            
                
                    [04:30] (270.40s)
                    still thinking about the bug. How's your
                 
            
                
                    [04:32] (272.16s)
                    stuff coming, dude? Bar, bro. Like this
                 
            
                
                    [04:35] (275.12s)
                    five spice chicken, bro. I'm telling
                 
            
                
                    [04:36] (276.72s)
                    you, man. We should just move to mobile
                 
            
                
                    [04:38] (278.16s)
                    consumer. You're over here killing it.
                 
            
                
                    [04:39] (279.84s)
                    We're here building this hard ass. I
                 
            
                
                    [04:41] (281.52s)
                    know, man. application. Dude, about to
                 
            
                
                    [04:43] (283.68s)
                    go to mobile consumer. I mean, how's
                 
            
                
                    [04:44] (284.80s)
                    your stuff going? Hey, show. Let me show
                 
            
                
                    [04:46] (286.00s)
                    them what I got.
                 
            
                
                    [04:48] (288.08s)
                    Your stuff coming in? It's bug fixing,
                 
            
                
                    [04:49] (289.76s)
                    man. It's up to Gemini today. Tell them
                 
            
                
                    [04:51] (291.36s)
                    about it. Oh, so they pushed an update
                 
            
                
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                    on to the Gemini models. So the output
                 
            
                
                    [04:55] (295.68s)
                    that we were getting just changed out of
                 
            
                
                    [04:57] (297.52s)
                    the blue. So we had to fix the output
                 
            
                
                    [04:59] (299.36s)
                    schema. So now you just working on that
                 
            
                
                    [05:01] (301.84s)
                    all day or what? Yeah. Yeah. Mobile
                 
            
                
                    [05:04] (304.40s)
                    consumer head ass
                 
            
                
                    [05:07] (307.12s)
                    bro. I'm doing what? How are you doing
                 
            
                
                    [05:09] (309.52s)
                    today? Out of San Francisco as well, you
                 
            
                
                    [05:11] (311.20s)
                    said. Cool. Well, I'm glad that you
                 
            
                
                    [05:13] (313.28s)
                    connected us. Love to hear a bit more
                 
            
                
                    [05:16] (316.16s)
                    about Clover. Interest of mine has
                 
            
                
                    [05:18] (318.56s)
                    always been uh video editing. I've been
                 
            
                
                    [05:20] (320.32s)
                    making YouTube videos documenting my
                 
            
                
                    [05:21] (321.84s)
                    whole startup journey. Uh two other uh
                 
            
                
                    [05:23] (323.28s)
                    co-founders I know that I've known for
                 
            
                
                    [05:24] (324.80s)
                    over 10 years. So all of us are
                 
            
                
                    [05:26] (326.56s)
                    technical and been building a lot of
                 
            
                
                    [05:28] (328.08s)
                    different projects together. Moved to
                 
            
                
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                    San Francisco about five months ago just
                 
            
                
                    [05:30] (330.96s)
                    building stuff. Been building stuff
                 
            
                
                    [05:32] (332.08s)
                    full-time for 3 years. Had this idea
                 
            
                
                    [05:33] (333.36s)
                    that I couldn't shake out of my head. I
                 
            
                
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                    can like have a cursor feel to video
                 
            
                
                    [05:36] (336.64s)
                    editing at least in the beginning of
                 
            
                
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                    just getting these cuts ready and I can
                 
            
                
                    [05:39] (339.28s)
                    tweak on later on. So we decided just
                 
            
                
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                    launch the product because we want to
                 
            
                
                    [05:41] (341.92s)
                    see a text prompt versus like going
                 
            
                
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                    through weight list cuz I'm very
                 
            
                
                    [05:45] (345.12s)
                    anti-weight. I always see weightless
                 
            
                
                    [05:46] (346.48s)
                    decay and never goes well. You know, end
                 
            
                
                    [05:48] (348.08s)
                    up going viral. We got about like
                 
            
                
                    [05:49] (349.52s)
                    750,000 views on it. So now we're kind
                 
            
                
                    [05:51] (351.76s)
                    of back at the drawing board like, okay,
                 
            
                
                    [05:53] (353.04s)
                    let's actually really make this
                 
            
                
                    [05:54] (354.48s)
                    application good using text prompts to
                 
            
                
                    [05:56] (356.48s)
                    edit these videos.
                 
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
                    [06:05] (365.04s)
                    I can't be a hater for like a week now.
                 
            
                
                    [06:06] (366.96s)
                    This guy's cooked, huh? It's cooked,
                 
            
                
                    [06:08] (368.40s)
                    bro. Show the show the VC brag post,
                 
            
                
                    [06:10] (370.16s)
                    bro. Pull it up. Pull it up. There we
                 
            
                
                    [06:11] (371.92s)
                    go. It's made up. Don't worry about it.
                 
            
                
                    [06:15] (375.20s)
                    What do you want to say, bro? I
                 
            
                
                    [06:16] (376.32s)
                    literally just made that [Β __Β ] up.
                 
            
                
                    [06:19] (379.36s)
                    blaming you, dude. They call him Aselon.
                 
            
                
                    [06:23] (383.44s)
                    Actually, I'm I'm unlike it. I'm going
                 
            
                
                    [06:24] (384.96s)
                    like it again. There you go. There you
                 
            
                
                    [06:26] (386.32s)
                    go. Cyrus is an AI attorney. Wait,
                 
            
                
                    [06:28] (388.56s)
                    before you delete, how many views did
                 
            
                
                    [06:30] (390.24s)
                    the post get? Uh, it hit like 500. Okay.
                 
            
                
                    [06:32] (392.48s)
                    And then it was I'm pretty sure it would
                 
            
                
                    [06:33] (393.92s)
                    have hit at least 1 to 2 M. And if I
                 
            
                
                    [06:35] (395.68s)
                    doubled down, it would probably hit like
                 
            
                
                    [06:37] (397.76s)
                    five cuz then I would have just like
                 
            
                
                    [06:39] (399.04s)
                    engaged my baited everyone. Still not
                 
            
                
                    [06:40] (400.56s)
                    founder friendly, dude. Are you UVC
                 
            
                
                    [06:41] (401.92s)
                    friendly?
                 
            
                
                    [06:43] (403.84s)
                    Come on. It works both ways, bro. Hey, I
                 
            
                
                    [06:45] (405.52s)
                    heard you only write five figure checks,
                 
            
                
                    [06:47] (407.04s)
                    dude. That's just five figures. You just
                 
            
                
                    [06:49] (409.20s)
                    got so much hate. Hundreds of retweets,
                 
            
                
                    [06:51] (411.20s)
                    bro. Cool retweets. Yeah, I had like the
                 
            
                
                    [06:52] (412.80s)
                    co-founder of Postmates [Β __Β ] on me. That
                 
            
                
                    [06:54] (414.80s)
                    was pretty funny. I had like one of the
                 
            
                
                    [06:57] (417.20s)
                    top VCs. Hey man, but you got the big
                 
            
                
                    [06:59] (419.60s)
                    dog now. VC brags. Dude, what happens
                 
            
                
                    [07:02] (422.40s)
                    when you get cyberbullied? Look, let me
                 
            
                
                    [07:04] (424.16s)
                    show you. You go to sleep, bro. It
                 
            
                
                    [07:06] (426.16s)
                    doesn't matter. Just turn off the
                 
            
                
                    [07:07] (427.36s)
                    computer and go home. Bro, are you
                 
            
                
                    [07:08] (428.80s)
                    prereev or you pre-product, dude? All
                 
            
                
                    [07:10] (430.88s)
                    right. [Β __Β ] you. Users, bro. Users
                 
            
                
                    [07:14] (434.08s)
                    first. All right, bro. Uh, cut this in
                 
            
                
                    [07:16] (436.32s)
                    in 10 years when I get kissed. Ah, but
                 
            
                
                    [07:19] (439.60s)
                    Rousan the best VC, bro. Unlimited
                 
            
                
                    [07:21] (441.52s)
                    office hours. Funn, so clearly a joke.
                 
            
                
                    [07:25] (445.76s)
                    Run me another check now. Rouslon, I'll
                 
            
                
                    [07:28] (448.48s)
                    vom you after this.
                 
            
                
                    [07:31] (451.52s)
                    I need to have you.
                 
            
                
                    [07:34] (454.08s)
                    You missed office hours today, Ryan.
                 
            
                
                    [07:35] (455.92s)
                    Dude, that's so much code to write, bro.
                 
            
                
                    [07:38] (458.24s)
                    I know. We're so behind right now. But
                 
            
                
                    [07:42] (462.16s)
                    uh I just realized in this video I
                 
            
                
                    [07:44] (464.00s)
                    haven't really uh told you guys what
                 
            
                
                    [07:46] (466.32s)
                    we're working on yet. But basically
                 
            
                
                    [07:48] (468.64s)
                    we're working on a way for people to be
                 
            
                
                    [07:50] (470.16s)
                    able to edit video with text prompts. So
                 
            
                
                    [07:52] (472.00s)
                    let's say you have a bunch of raw clips
                 
            
                
                    [07:53] (473.44s)
                    you recorded from like a vlog or like
                 
            
                
                    [07:55] (475.12s)
                    these YouTube videos I make. Then you
                 
            
                
                    [07:57] (477.12s)
                    can just use text prompts to get like
                 
            
                
                    [07:58] (478.48s)
                    the first cut and eventually like keep
                 
            
                
                    [08:00] (480.56s)
                    editing the videos like through text,
                 
            
                
                    [08:02] (482.40s)
                    right? Instead of dragging on a timeline
                 
            
                
                    [08:04] (484.24s)
                    and all that stuff that takes up a lot
                 
            
                
                    [08:06] (486.24s)
                    of time. Main office hour takeaway today
                 
            
                
                    [08:08] (488.80s)
                    while we're talking to Relon is that um
                 
            
                
                    [08:11] (491.60s)
                    we have already validated the problem
                 
            
                
                    [08:14] (494.16s)
                    right we have a bunch of users that
                 
            
                
                    [08:15] (495.84s)
                    signed up a lot of people told us that
                 
            
                
                    [08:17] (497.92s)
                    they would love to have this tool but
                 
            
                
                    [08:19] (499.68s)
                    now what we need to validate on is that
                 
            
                
                    [08:22] (502.16s)
                    to validate the product since we don't
                 
            
                
                    [08:25] (505.76s)
                    have like that continuous usage yet even
                 
            
                
                    [08:27] (507.68s)
                    though we have got a lot of feedback
                 
            
                
                    [08:29] (509.12s)
                    because the product simply isn't good
                 
            
                
                    [08:30] (510.56s)
                    enough right now and obviously we're
                 
            
                
                    [08:31] (511.76s)
                    working hard on getting it there and I
                 
            
                
                    [08:33] (513.84s)
                    believe that next week we should have a
                 
            
                
                    [08:35] (515.20s)
                    pretty decent MVP I also have this like
                 
            
                
                    [08:37] (517.28s)
                    Twitter marketing campaign I'll be
                 
            
                
                    [08:38] (518.48s)
                    running but also Ryan have you seen my
                 
            
                
                    [08:40] (520.16s)
                    uh have you seen my laptop I can also
                 
            
                
                    [08:41] (521.92s)
                    show like I want to show
                 
            
                
                    [08:44] (524.56s)
                    but basically you can basically upload
                 
            
                
                    [08:46] (526.56s)
                    your files right well random clips I
                 
            
                
                    [08:48] (528.40s)
                    have inspiration link right here so we
                 
            
                
                    [08:50] (530.00s)
                    use Gemini to analyze that inspiration
                 
            
                
                    [08:51] (531.76s)
                    links to understand like the video style
                 
            
                
                    [08:54] (534.40s)
                    but you can see that like over here this
                 
            
                
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                    is actually like around like 70 clips we
                 
            
                
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                    uploaded for like one of my vlogs over
                 
            
                
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                    here create like a string out right so
                 
            
                
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                    like these are like the usual like
                 
            
                
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                    YouTube videos I make and remove like
                 
            
                
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                    all the filler words and then it has
                 
            
                
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                    like different like B- rolls in between.
                 
            
                
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                    I mean, there's still so much still to
                 
            
                
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                    kind of optimize, but we're finally
                 
            
                
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                    making some big strides. I feel like
                 
            
                
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                    once you have this baseline built out,
                 
            
                
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                    like really optimized for speed and
                 
            
                
                    [09:16] (556.32s)
                    relaunch again. But it's also live. So,
                 
            
                
                    [09:17] (557.68s)
                    if you want to try it out, it should
                 
            
                
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                    load a lot quicker because I have these
                 
            
                
                    [09:21] (561.12s)
                    like giant Sony SLOG footage. So, if you
                 
            
                
                    [09:23] (563.60s)
                    just have like a fun vlog, you throw it
                 
            
                
                    [09:24] (564.88s)
                    in there, you know, love to get some
                 
            
                
                    [09:26] (566.32s)
                    feedback on what you guys think about
                 
            
                
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                    the product.
                 
            
                
                    [09:32] (572.24s)
                    Finally, uh got a hoop session in. Been
                 
            
                
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                    a long time and just trying to do more
                 
            
                
                    [09:37] (577.84s)
                    stuff that kind of ultimately clear my
                 
            
                
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                    head and after this I'm going to go back
                 
            
                
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                    to code. Got a lot more stuff to finish.
                 
            
                
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                    But man, I haven't hooped in like 3 4
                 
            
                
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                    months. So I'm really trying to get back
                 
            
                
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                    in a habit because it was rough today.
                 
            
                
                    [09:49] (589.84s)
                    My cardio is not up to place at all.
                 
            
                
                    [09:51] (591.84s)
                    Everybody missing today, huh? Mr.
                 
            
                
                    [09:53] (593.60s)
                    Bricks, how you feeling? A
                 
            
                
                    [09:56] (596.72s)
                    zooted.
                 
            
                
                    [09:59] (599.36s)
                    This is hard in fundraising, huh? A lot.
                 
            
                
                    [10:02] (602.80s)
                    Got the heart of a lion though. That's
                 
            
                
                    [10:04] (604.72s)
                    all you can do now. Yeah. Look at this.
                 
            
                
                    [10:08] (608.56s)
                    This shot's going to look nice. Get on
                 
            
                
                    [10:09] (609.76s)
                    one of those rooftops, brother.
                 
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
                    [10:19] (619.92s)
                    It's funny how the startup game is
                 
            
                
                    [10:21] (621.68s)
                    always like evolving so fast right now.
                 
            
                
                    [10:25] (625.52s)
                    Like people always talk about going
                 
            
                
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                    viral and I also do believe that this is
                 
            
                
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                    going to be a big part for future growth
                 
            
                
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                    for companies. like stars always think
                 
            
                
                    [10:32] (632.56s)
                    about it. recently tweet this tweeted
                 
            
                
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                    this about four days ago when I talk
                 
            
                
                    [10:36] (636.08s)
                    about like the new startup playbook
                 
            
                
                    [10:38] (638.08s)
                    which is launch a rough MVP go viral you
                 
            
                
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                    learn from your user data build a good
                 
            
                
                    [10:44] (644.16s)
                    product and launch again retain users
                 
            
                
                    [10:46] (646.32s)
                    this is kind of like a brand new
                 
            
                
                    [10:47] (647.52s)
                    playbook too so who knows maybe in a
                 
            
                
                    [10:49] (649.36s)
                    year we'll look back at this and be like
                 
            
                
                    [10:50] (650.72s)
                    wow that was a really dumb tweet that
                 
            
                
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                    did not work out well for all the people
                 
            
                
                    [10:54] (654.32s)
                    that tried to do this method but you
                 
            
                
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                    know this is what we're going with right
                 
            
                
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                    now but I think it was interesting
                 
            
                
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                    because what I didn't expect from this
                 
            
                
                    [11:02] (662.64s)
                    whole playbook of like going viral
                 
            
                
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                    before a product was really ready was
                 
            
                
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                    how much it was going to hurt to have
                 
            
                
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                    something out there that you're not
                 
            
                
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                    proud of and having a bunch of people
                 
            
                
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                    trying it. Even though before we
                 
            
                
                    [11:14] (674.72s)
                    launched I remember I told Ryan and Gon
                 
            
                
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                    like our whole team is that we want to
                 
            
                
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                    have angry people because if we have
                 
            
                
                    [11:19] (679.68s)
                    angry people that means that people care
                 
            
                
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                    and this whole launch the purpose was to
                 
            
                
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                    gauge demand and before I launched a
                 
            
                
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                    post obviously I in my mind I I think it
                 
            
                
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                    was going to go viral because there were
                 
            
                
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                    certain boxes I believe that you have to
                 
            
                
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                    tick to go viral where certain
                 
            
                
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                    requirements and I believe we tick all
                 
            
                
                    [11:32] (692.00s)
                    those boxes but when it went viral it
                 
            
                
                    [11:33] (693.84s)
                    was just really hard on myself mentally
                 
            
                
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                    because I felt like the whole world was
                 
            
                
                    [11:37] (697.92s)
                    judging me even though we this that was
                 
            
                
                    [11:40] (700.24s)
                    the whole plan was to get the data and
                 
            
                
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                    which we did get the data. So we have
                 
            
                
                    [11:43] (703.28s)
                    way better direction. We we know that we
                 
            
                
                    [11:44] (704.96s)
                    have demand here and we also saw how
                 
            
                
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                    people were able to prompt the
                 
            
                
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                    application. So we know we learned so
                 
            
                
                    [11:50] (710.16s)
                    much from that data of how people used
                 
            
                
                    [11:51] (711.68s)
                    it. But in my opinion, I definitely
                 
            
                
                    [11:53] (713.60s)
                    think this is worth it because there are
                 
            
                
                    [11:56] (716.72s)
                    too many times where people including
                 
            
                
                    [11:58] (718.56s)
                    myself have built stuff that nobody has
                 
            
                
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                    used. And when I launched it, I thought
                 
            
                
                    [12:01] (721.92s)
                    it was a very polished product. But it's
                 
            
                
                    [12:04] (724.32s)
                    a disgusting feeling of not having
                 
            
                
                    [12:07] (727.04s)
                    people use your stuff. And Ryan and I,
                 
            
                
                    [12:09] (729.28s)
                    we we are not we are no stranger to that
                 
            
                
                    [12:11] (731.44s)
                    feeling. Huh, Ryan? Oh yeah. And that's
                 
            
                
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                    how I look at a lot of these things that
                 
            
                
                    [12:14] (734.48s)
                    it's like a lot of times going down
                 
            
                
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                    different path like they there will
                 
            
                
                    [12:17] (737.76s)
                    always be pain and it just depends on
                 
            
                
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                    which pain you want to go through and
                 
            
                
                    [12:21] (741.52s)
                    what is the the risk you're taking,
                 
            
                
                    [12:24] (744.00s)
                    right? That will usually give the best
                 
            
                
                    [12:25] (745.20s)
                    outcome. And it's interesting because
                 
            
                
                    [12:27] (747.04s)
                    this is kind of a new ideology in my
                 
            
                
                    [12:28] (748.64s)
                    opinion of like the whole going viral
                 
            
                
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                    method. I'm sure people have done it
                 
            
                
                    [12:30] (750.96s)
                    before, but it's not as like mainstream.
                 
            
                
                    [12:33] (753.36s)
                    And as I'm kind of going through these
                 
            
                
                    [12:34] (754.88s)
                    loops of like these these five sets of
                 
            
                
                    [12:37] (757.12s)
                    iteration, it's um I thought to just
                 
            
                
                    [12:39] (759.36s)
                    like share more about how I feel and
                 
            
                
                    [12:42] (762.24s)
                    what I have learned from it.
                 
            
                
                    [12:46] (766.16s)
                    What What are you rocking this Tesla
                 
            
                
                    [12:47] (767.76s)
                    for? Uh we're going to a sneaker
                 
            
                
                    [12:51] (771.20s)
                    reunion. Sneaker Twitter. Not very
                 
            
                
                    [12:52] (772.88s)
                    founder friendly being this late, huh?
                 
            
                
                    [12:54] (774.40s)
                    Are you VC friendly though? It's all
                 
            
                
                    [12:56] (776.24s)
                    about, you know, how big checks you
                 
            
                
                    [12:58] (778.08s)
                    write. It's never about here's what I
                 
            
                
                    [12:59] (779.76s)
                    have for you. No one asked me, you know.
                 
            
                
                    [13:01] (781.12s)
                    No one asked me how I'm doing. asked me
                 
            
                
                    [13:02] (782.80s)
                    to give me money. I'm always the one
                 
            
                
                    [13:04] (784.32s)
                    giving money. Why? Why is no one giving
                 
            
                
                    [13:06] (786.00s)
                    me money? [Β __Β ] I'm out here busting
                 
            
                
                    [13:08] (788.24s)
                    ass trying to trying to make the LPS
                 
            
                
                    [13:09] (789.68s)
                    rich. What about me? What about that
                 
            
                
                    [13:10] (790.96s)
                    little guy? The thing that because of
                 
            
                
                    [13:15] (795.36s)
                    there there's a lot more and it's just
                 
            
                
                    [13:16] (796.96s)
                    way easier to run.
                 
            
                
                    [13:22] (802.56s)
                    I think I just had the most San
                 
            
                
                    [13:24] (804.40s)
                    Francisco experience just now. We just
                 
            
                
                    [13:26] (806.80s)
                    left the Adobe office and I'm in a
                 
            
                
                    [13:29] (809.44s)
                    Whimo, a self uh driving car back to
                 
            
                
                    [13:32] (812.96s)
                    formation, back to Founders, Inc. And
                 
            
                
                    [13:34] (814.72s)
                    while I'm in this Whimo right now, I
                 
            
                
                    [13:36] (816.16s)
                    thought to also just answer the question
                 
            
                
                    [13:37] (817.68s)
                    I probably get asked the most from
                 
            
                
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                    different starter founders is that is it
                 
            
                
                    [13:42] (822.00s)
                    worth it being in San Francisco? And
                 
            
                
                    [13:43] (823.60s)
                    after moving here from Las Vegas about 5
                 
            
                
                    [13:45] (825.92s)
                    months ago, my answer is definitely 100%
                 
            
                
                    [13:48] (828.56s)
                    now. Like simply just by the motion of
                 
            
                
                    [13:51] (831.12s)
                    being the city, you create so much
                 
            
                
                    [13:52] (832.80s)
                    momentum by just meeting different
                 
            
                
                    [13:54] (834.64s)
                    people, right? Like by being at Founders
                 
            
                
                    [13:56] (836.40s)
                    Inc. where I get to meet all these
                 
            
                
                    [13:58] (838.16s)
                    startup founders like the growth has
                 
            
                
                    [14:00] (840.32s)
                    been infinite compared to like being
                 
            
                
                    [14:02] (842.00s)
                    alone in my apartment and I'm working
                 
            
                
                    [14:03] (843.36s)
                    with the most like frontier tech hearing
                 
            
                
                    [14:05] (845.20s)
                    about the most recent news just by c
                 
            
                
                    [14:07] (847.04s)
                    passing conversations but also today
                 
            
                
                    [14:09] (849.12s)
                    like I'm just able to come up come to
                 
            
                
                    [14:10] (850.64s)
                    the Adobe office and meet with like the
                 
            
                
                    [14:13] (853.04s)
                    partnership team right and these
                 
            
                
                    [14:14] (854.40s)
                    conversations where people always talk
                 
            
                
                    [14:15] (855.76s)
                    about tech it really elevates you and
                 
            
                
                    [14:18] (858.00s)
                    put you at the frontier of like of
                 
            
                
                    [14:20] (860.64s)
                    meeting people but also just like
                 
            
                
                    [14:22] (862.40s)
                    learning the technology and I know
                 
            
                
                    [14:23] (863.76s)
                    people complain all the time they say
                 
            
                
                    [14:24] (864.88s)
                    the city's expensive and the city uh is
                 
            
                
                    [14:27] (867.92s)
                    dirty, there's homeless and it's crowded
                 
            
                
                    [14:29] (869.76s)
                    and I get all that stuff. But really, in
                 
            
                
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                    my opinion, the most expensive thing
                 
            
                
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                    right now in my life as a 25-year-old
                 
            
                
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                    who's building a startup is by not being
                 
            
                
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                    around other ambitious people who are
                 
            
                
                    [14:39] (879.84s)
                    also building companies. That's
                 
            
                
                    [14:41] (881.12s)
                    something I'm also going to be
                 
            
                
                    [14:42] (882.00s)
                    challenging myself to do more these
                 
            
                
                    [14:44] (884.00s)
                    upcoming weeks is that to start going to
                 
            
                
                    [14:46] (886.32s)
                    more events. I think in the beginning
                 
            
                
                    [14:48] (888.72s)
                    I'm like super anti-events. I'm always
                 
            
                
                    [14:51] (891.12s)
                    like I just want to sit on my desk at
                 
            
                
                    [14:52] (892.48s)
                    Founders Inc. grind, grind, grind, get
                 
            
                
                    [14:54] (894.96s)
                    my things going and I'm meeting other
                 
            
                
                    [14:56] (896.32s)
                    startup founders there already. But I do
                 
            
                
                    [14:58] (898.48s)
                    think that I have been too extreme on
                 
            
                
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                    that side and be able to like not always
                 
            
                
                    [15:02] (902.72s)
                    just depend my happiness on how fast I'm
                 
            
                
                    [15:05] (905.28s)
                    moving because a lot of times like these
                 
            
                
                    [15:07] (907.04s)
                    relationships will also pay dividends
                 
            
                
                    [15:08] (908.48s)
                    later and a lot of times these
                 
            
                
                    [15:09] (909.84s)
                    conversation really do uh stimulate
                 
            
                
                    [15:11] (911.52s)
                    something that I haven't thought about
                 
            
                
                    [15:12] (912.88s)
                    before.
                 
            
                
                    [15:15] (915.36s)
                    You know, bro, you ever held a steam
                 
            
                
                    [15:16] (916.64s)
                    deck? Yeah, hold the steam deck, bro.
                 
            
                
                    [15:20] (920.08s)
                    So when you look at John, it like clears
                 
            
                
                    [15:22] (922.16s)
                    up. Yeah, it gets light. Dude, this is
                 
            
                
                    [15:23] (923.44s)
                    nutty, dude. Oh, wait. How much does
                 
            
                
                    [15:26] (926.40s)
                    this cost? The glasses are 600 right
                 
            
                
                    [15:28] (928.88s)
                    now. Damn. And you just you just been
                 
            
                
                    [15:30] (930.72s)
                    coding with this, huh? You never used
                 
            
                
                    [15:31] (931.84s)
                    monitor. I don't have a monitor. This is
                 
            
                
                    [15:33] (933.44s)
                    a VR guy right here. Show me this so I
                 
            
                
                    [15:36] (936.00s)
                    could like buy this. I need to find a
                 
            
                
                    [15:37] (937.20s)
                    way to like show like what it looks like
                 
            
                
                    [15:38] (938.56s)
                    on the vlog, but I don't feel like it's
                 
            
                
                    [15:39] (939.76s)
                    going to look do it justice. That's the
                 
            
                
                    [15:41] (941.20s)
                    biggest problem with marketing VR stuff
                 
            
                
                    [15:43] (943.28s)
                    is that there's no way to show people
                 
            
                
                    [15:44] (944.72s)
                    what it feels like. I should head with
                 
            
                
                    [15:46] (946.08s)
                    this brand and try to get a sponsorship
                 
            
                
                    [15:47] (947.36s)
                    or something. Yeah, dude. And tell them
                 
            
                
                    [15:48] (948.80s)
                    to get two for me. No, you have one,
                 
            
                
                    [15:51] (951.36s)
                    too. No, I got the old the first first
                 
            
                
                    [15:53] (953.52s)
                    generation. You got to try it, bro. You
                 
            
                
                    [15:55] (955.92s)
                    just got to try put it on, right? They
                 
            
                
                    [15:57] (957.28s)
                    they announce I don't get on a plane
                 
            
                
                    [15:58] (958.64s)
                    without these anymore. Easy. I'm like,
                 
            
                
                    [15:59] (959.84s)
                    so you've been using these on the plane
                 
            
                
                    [16:00] (960.96s)
                    all time. All the time, huh? How do I do
                 
            
                
                    [16:02] (962.72s)
                    it? Do I keep hold it down? It'll it'll
                 
            
                
                    [16:04] (964.80s)
                    like reset where the screen is. You
                 
            
                
                    [16:06] (966.08s)
                    can't be hogging it, bro. Now you're
                 
            
                
                    [16:07] (967.28s)
                    being selfish.
                 
            
                
                    [16:10] (970.80s)
                    I'm with Founders, Inc. Mind if I How
                 
            
                
                    [16:13] (973.84s)
                    you doing, sir?
                 
            
                
                    [16:15] (975.68s)
                    With saddle. With saddle. Why do we get
                 
            
                
                    [16:17] (977.52s)
                    a horse? Um,
                 
            
                
                    [16:21] (981.04s)
                    I'm gonna be honest. Not a ton of
                 
            
                
                    [16:23] (983.20s)
                    thought was put into this. So, sad we
                 
            
                
                    [16:25] (985.44s)
                    got to load the the horse back up into
                 
            
                
                    [16:26] (986.96s)
                    the wagon. All right. Is there anywhere
                 
            
                
                    [16:28] (988.32s)
                    around here where we could still use the
                 
            
                
                    [16:29] (989.92s)
                    horse? Not in the Fort M like the
                 
            
                
                    [16:32] (992.24s)
                    national park. I just jump on. No. Yeah.
                 
            
                
                    [16:35] (995.44s)
                    [Β __Β ] Oh, feels kind of nutty. What? And
                 
            
                
                    [16:38] (998.88s)
                    then like this. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [Β __Β ]
                 
            
                
                    [16:43] (1003.76s)
                    Oh. Oh.
                 
            
                
            
                
                    [16:48] (1008.72s)
                    Wait, look this way. It's just a horse.
                 
            
                
                    [16:53] (1013.04s)
                    Horse?
                 
            
                
                    [16:54] (1014.80s)
                    What are you talking about? Horse?
                 
            
                
                    [16:56] (1016.64s)
                    You're the one that ordered a horse? I
                 
            
                
                    [16:58] (1018.40s)
                    didn't order a horse. Look at this, bro.
                 
            
                
                    [17:01] (1021.20s)
                    I got the horse. Is this like the new AI
                 
            
                
                    [17:03] (1023.84s)
                    model from Google? Founder Ang's new
                 
            
                
                    [17:05] (1025.76s)
                    promo video. It's literally your horse
                 
            
                
                    [17:07] (1027.12s)
                    downstairs. Don't think so. I don't
                 
            
                
                    [17:09] (1029.36s)
                    think so.
                 
            
                
                    [17:14] (1034.16s)
                    What' you get? New headphones, man. I
                 
            
                
                    [17:16] (1036.96s)
                    used to have those AirPods Max, but
                 
            
                
                    [17:18] (1038.72s)
                    they're getting kind of grimy and they
                 
            
                
                    [17:19] (1039.92s)
                    just broke out of nowhere. So, got a new
                 
            
                
                    [17:22] (1042.24s)
                    pair. Trying out these uh these Bose
                 
            
                
                    [17:24] (1044.40s)
                    ones. What advice do you have for people
                 
            
                
                    [17:25] (1045.84s)
                    who are trying to build in public?
                 
            
                
                    [17:28] (1048.96s)
                    It's a good question. Honestly,
                 
            
                
                    [17:31] (1051.76s)
                    I think everybody should go to public
                 
            
                
                    [17:34] (1054.00s)
                    because distribution is just going to
                 
            
                
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                    get more and more important these days.
                 
            
                
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                    But I would say the advice really is to
                 
            
                
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                    like start with one platform first.
                 
            
                
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                    That's why I see a bunch of people when
                 
            
                
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                    they start building a public in the
                 
            
                
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                    beginning. They try to be making YouTube
                 
            
                
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                    videos, Twitter, LinkedIn, everything
                 
            
                
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                    and you're going to crash and burn
                 
            
                
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                    because that's just way too much work.
                 
            
                
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                    And for me personally, I started with
                 
            
                
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                    building on YouTube first. And that
                 
            
                
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                    moved to Twitter and even now I still
                 
            
                
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                    haven't moved to really LinkedIn or
                 
            
                
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                    short form yet because I don't have the
                 
            
                
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                    capacity. So I think the first thing is
                 
            
                
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                    to pick one of the social media platform
                 
            
                
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                    and just get really really good at
                 
            
                
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                    making content for that one specific
                 
            
                
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                    one. Oh, these are pretty sick actually.
                 
            
                
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                    Oh, these are scuffed though. Really?
                 
            
                
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                    Yeah, they're scuffed already. I'm going
                 
            
                
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                    to scuff them regardless, so I might as
                 
            
                
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                    well keep it. But but I think the most
                 
            
                
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                    important part is that like people
                 
            
                
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                    simply just don't put out enough
                 
            
                
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                    content.
                 
            
                
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                    You shouldn't really worry about the
                 
            
                
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                    quality of your content until like,
                 
            
                
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                    let's say 30 to 50 tweets later. For
                 
            
                
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                    videos, I would say after 10 videos, you
                 
            
                
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                    should start tweaking because it's about
                 
            
                
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                    getting that confidence, getting that
                 
            
                
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                    momentum, just putting stuff out there
                 
            
                
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                    for this. And the truth is, it's going
                 
            
                
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                    to be bad. If you watch like some of my
                 
            
                
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                    older videos, they're really not that
                 
            
                
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                    good. It takes a while to really get a
                 
            
                
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                    hang of this. And even me myself, like
                 
            
                
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                    the goal is that like 6 months later
                 
            
                
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                    when I look back at these videos I'm
                 
            
                
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                    making, I want to be like, "Wow, these
                 
            
                
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                    videos were not good." And then after
                 
            
                
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                    you put out like 10 to 15 of these
                 
            
                
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                    content like pieces, right? Once you
                 
            
                
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                    catch a rhythm, then you should really
                 
            
                
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                    then start hyper analyzing. Like right,
                 
            
                
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                    we're literally sit in a room and be
                 
            
                
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                    like, "Why does this do well?" And we're
                 
            
                
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                    not thinking about an algorithm
                 
            
                
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                    perspective. Too many people think that
                 
            
                
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                    like you got to appease the algorithm,
                 
            
                
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                    but that's not the that's not actually
                 
            
                
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                    the right way to think about it. The
                 
            
                
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                    right way to think about it is who are
                 
            
                
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                    the audience that watches that like
                 
            
                
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                    consumes my content and that I'm
                 
            
                
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                    targeting and you want to think from
                 
            
                
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                    audience perspective like what makes
                 
            
                
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                    them what makes them tick what makes
                 
            
                
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                    them interested in watching your content
                 
            
                
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                    and why do they want to engage with it
                 
            
                
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                    right I really think everybody should
                 
            
                
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                    build a personal brand I I think it's
                 
            
                
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                    like extremely extremely important to do
                 
            
                
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                    so because as the cost of software is
                 
            
                
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                    coming down assuming you're in the
                 
            
                
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                    software business the distribution boat
                 
            
                
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                    becomes bigger and bigger
                 
            
                
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                    [Music]
                 
            
                
                    [19:43] (1183.28s)
                    like tell you all about how LinkedIn
                 
            
                
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                    works and you tell us about how X work
                 
            
                
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                    and where do we come from guys? We're
                 
            
                
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                    coming from Spain. We've been one week
                 
            
                
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                    in New York prior to SF and we just got
                 
            
                
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                    to SF yesterday. Yeah, we got invited by
                 
            
                
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                    Andre to a couple of um events. Right
                 
            
                
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                    now we're we're in SF for YC's demo day.
                 
            
                
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                    We have a big following on LinkedIn,
                 
            
                
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                    400,000 followers between the two of us.
                 
            
                
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                    We like founders that are already kind
                 
            
                
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                    of building in public, trying to get
                 
            
                
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                    viral on social media and then we can
                 
            
                
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                    get in and try to amplify that.
                 
            
                
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                    For my first like startup journey, like
                 
            
                
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                    I was reselling a lot of sneakers. So, I
                 
            
                
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                    was writing these sneaker bots, right?
                 
            
                
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                    You think about starting something, you
                 
            
                
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                    don't know what to do first. I think
                 
            
                
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                    like what Dylan said, the first key
                 
            
                
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                    thing is to like figure out like what
                 
            
                
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                    what what cures you, you know? Mine was
                 
            
                
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                    sneakers. Yours is drop shipping. I'm
                 
            
                
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                    sure all of you guys have certain
                 
            
                
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                    different type of interest, right? I I
                 
            
                
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                    want to I want to worry about like the
                 
            
                
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                    the market size, you know, because like
                 
            
                
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                    I think like a lot of the big companies
                 
            
                
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                    you see like a lot of the different
                 
            
                
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                    starters, right? At first the market
                 
            
                
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                    size always seem very tiny. You really
                 
            
                
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                    want to like dominate within that niche
                 
            
                
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                    before you start branching out.
                 
            
                
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                    Right now we are testing a lot of the
                 
            
                
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                    application as you can see uploading a
                 
            
                
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                    ton of video. Ryan, good job on the
                 
            
                
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                    code. Finish up a lot of stuff. Still
                 
            
                
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                    not the perfect MVP where we wanted to
                 
            
                
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                    be. I think next week we'll really get
                 
            
                
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                    to where we want to be at with the pay
                 
            
                
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                    wall and everything like that, but just
                 
            
                
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                    one step at a time, right? We got H
                 
            
                
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                    giving a demo right now. Happy days.
                 
            
                
                    [21:14] (1274.64s)
                    Uh, hey guys. Here. Nice to meet you.
                 
            
                
                    [21:18] (1278.32s)
                    Good to meet you guys. How's your stuff
                 
            
                
                    [21:19] (1279.76s)
                    coming along? Uncle T. It's good. Just
                 
            
                
                    [21:22] (1282.88s)
                    uh scrolling through avatars. I mean,
                 
            
                
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                    you recently went viral, too, though. We
                 
            
                
                    [21:26] (1286.48s)
                    went viral like yeah, maybe a month and
                 
            
                
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                    a half ago, something like that. Yeah. I
                 
            
                
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                    mean you're building you want to tell
                 
            
                
                    [21:31] (1291.36s)
                    you want to tell them what you're
                 
            
                
                    [21:32] (1292.08s)
                    building pretty cool dev tool stuff.
                 
            
                
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                    Yeah. So I make it really easy to build
                 
            
                
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                    apps uh like real time apps. So voice in
                 
            
                
                    [21:37] (1297.84s)
                    video in guitar in basically any input
                 
            
                
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                    make it programmable build an app around
                 
            
                
                    [21:43] (1303.12s)
                    it. Yeah. And let me tell you when when
                 
            
                
                    [21:45] (1305.20s)
                    everything went down when Google went
                 
            
                
                    [21:46] (1306.72s)
                    down everything was down. Gabber was up.
                 
            
                
                    [21:49] (1309.76s)
                    Gabber was up. So if you're building dev
                 
            
                
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                    tools and stuff like definitely check
                 
            
                
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                    out Yeah. gabber.de uncle t which stands
                 
            
                
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                    for uncle testosterone.
                 
            
                
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                    Jesus Christ. Yeah. 8 hours of sleep at
                 
            
                
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                    night. You eat a lot of red meat. Just
                 
            
                
                    [22:01] (1321.52s)
                    like what do you want to do? This is
                 
            
                
                    [22:02] (1322.96s)
                    Uncle T, man. What can you do? Check out
                 
            
                
                    [22:04] (1324.64s)
                    Uncle T's page. I'll see you guys in the
                 
            
                
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                    next one.