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Hey, this is the definitive guide to
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copyrightiting for outbound. I've been
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doing outbound sales basically my entire
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professional life since I was 20 up
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until now, so about a decade. I've also
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generated over $15 million in outbound
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sales for myself and my clients. And I
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currently run a business that does $4
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million per year in profit. So, I say
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cold email in the title, but I want you
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to know that what you're going to learn
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here applies to all sorts of outbound
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communic. Uh whether it's cold email,
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whether it's Instagram, whether it's
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LinkedIn DMs, whether it's even like
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SMSs and stuff like that. So successful
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outbound, in my humble opinion,
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essentially boils down to can you
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convince a stranger who has never talked
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to you before and has no pre-established
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sense of trust with you to buy
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something. And that's very different
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from most traditional sorts of
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copyrightiting because most
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copyrightiting involves some form of
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opt-in where you know a person has
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signed up to your newsletter or has
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filled out a form and there's just some
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sort of like actual established bases
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for the conversation. A lot of people
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don't get that with outbound which is
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why I think so many people have issues.
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What I'm going to do in this course is
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dispel that for you completely and give
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you guys some very simple quantifiable
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road maps to to get to that level of
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trust without raising any alarm bells or
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making them think you're out to hurt
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them or something selling a product. So
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this course is going to give you the
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8020 whether you have any pre-existing
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experience with this stuff or you are
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approaching it as a complete and utter
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novice. Okay, no fluff. Here's what you
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guys are going to learn. So I'm going to
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start with the psychology of saying yes
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to a message from a stranger. Now, this,
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as I mentioned at the beginning, is
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quite hard. And so, we're going to
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spend, I don't know, probably 20, 30
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minutes on this, just to get you guys to
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the point where you understand how to
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get people to actually want to like open
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your message to begin with. After that,
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we'll chat the three components of a
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successful piece of outbound, whether
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it's an email, uh, an SMS, LinkedIn DM,
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or something else. Then, I'll cover my
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personal copywriting framework, which
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generated me and clients over $15
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million. And I'm not going to say my
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copyrightiting framework is like the
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best on earth. I think there might
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actually be be better ones, but it's
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worked really well for me. and uh over
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2,000 people that I teach how to do this
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in inside of my community. Then I'll
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chat offers, which is how do you
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construct something that sounds good,
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but it's not like too good to be true.
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It's not so amazing, which I think a lot
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of people typically put together and and
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put on a platter for their customers or
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prospects that like it sounds like BS.
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Once I'm done with that, I'm going to
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get to basically like the meat and
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potatoes of this course, which is going
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to be me roasting and then rewriting 10
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pieces of outbound live in front of you.
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So, I'm actually going to go through
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like my email inboxes, my DMs, and stuff
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like that, and show you guys how people
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send outbound, the things that are wrong
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with that send, and I'm actually going
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to rewrite them for you in real time.
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Then, I'll show you guys how to do all
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of this on specific platforms. So, how
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to optimize for email, how to optimize
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for LinkedIn, how to optimize for X, how
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to optimize for Instagram, and then
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finally, how to optimize for iMessage.
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Then we'll chat subject lines, uh,
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follow-ups, iteration, which is very
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important and not usually discussed
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before doing a module all about AI
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because obviously AI is the hot topic
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right now and I want to show you guys
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how you guys can leverage a lot of the
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advancements there to write your
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campaigns better. And then finally, at
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the very end, okay, I'll talk advanced
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outbound techniques, which I'm sort of
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putting under this term grey hat, which
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basically means because of differing
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like outbound laws and different um,
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areas around the world, you know, treat
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everything I'm going to teach you in
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that section with a grain of salt. Okay,
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so you guys are going to learn
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everything about outbound copyrightiting
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as discussed. Uh if you do me a solid
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like, subscribe, and then bookmark the
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video. I have chapter headings and stuff
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so you guys can jump around as
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necessary. And let's get into the
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course.
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The first and most important thing I
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want to talk about is that
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copyrightiting is not magic. Everything
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that I'm about to show you has actually
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been documented in psychological
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literature for the better part of
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several hundred years. If you think
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about it, human beings are like the OG
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research subjects, you know, like we
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were experimenting on our own minds and
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our own behaviors since basically human
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beings became a thing. So, what's really
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cool is you can actually go out right
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now and you can learn everything that
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I'm about to show you. You can verify
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that there have been, you know,
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experiments and and and and tests that
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have been done on different groups of
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people um just by looking it up on a
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resource like ARX. Now, I'm not saying
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you have to read a million research
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papers in order to get to the same level
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of knowledge. I'm going to distill it
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all for you. But I just want you guys to
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know that like this is not stuff that,
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you know, people just like pulled out of
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their asses. This is like real
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quantified research on how human beings
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make decisions. And the reason I find
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this so interesting is because I went to
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school for behavioral neuroscience. So,
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I graduated with a degree that basically
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discusses and shows the neuroscientific
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basis behind why human beings make
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decisions, why we engage in specific
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behaviors. And it is freaking insane
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when you go down a little bit deeper
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into it. Um, in hindsight, it's probably
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one of the reasons why I'm so good at,
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you know, cold email now. But yeah, you
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can literally go out and you can you can
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research this stuff. You can do whatever
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the heck you want. I mean, whether
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you're using Arxive or, you know, some
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other resource, I want you guys to know
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that everything I'm going to talk about
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to you guys today has empirical basis in
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science. And, you know, the best cold
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email copyriters are basically like the
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best psychologists. You know, so too
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with the best doortodoor salespeople. So
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to the the best LinkedIn DM campaigns,
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all of this is just based on our
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psychology. All right, so there's seven
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principles behind why people say yes to
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messages from strangers. A lot of this
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was taken from Robert Chelini's book
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called Influence. I don't think that
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he's necessarily covered the whole
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landscape, but he's definitely done a
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pretty good job of organizing it all. So
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I'm going to cover them in due turn. The
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first is giving first. The second is
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micro commitments. The third is social
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proof. The fourth is authority. The
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fifth is rapport. The sixth is scarcity.
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And the seventh is a shared sense of
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identity. And I think this is probably
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the most important of all. The first
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principle is the give first principle.
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And this is why you know before you get
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your bill at a restaurant, the waiter or
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waitress will always bring you a a pile
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of breathments. The reason why is
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because when they provide you something
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that you think is valuable, even if it's
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not objectively valuable, but just like
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valuable to you, it's something that you
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assign very high level of value to. It
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will create a sense of obligation
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that lowers their resistance, disarms
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their skepticism, and ultimately opens
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the door to trust. Now, this has been
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applied throughout history on broad
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broad scales. I'm not going to get into
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any particular example, but before you
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uh raise up in arms and think that
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learning this sort of thing makes you a
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manipulative person or whatever, know
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that you are constantly being
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manipulated every single day. Every
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company on planet Earth is employing
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this right now to get more money out of
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you, whether it's through outbound or
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through some sort of inbound thing. Have
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you guys ever been to to Costco or like
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a big ger that offers samples? It's like
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the reason why you do that is because
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them giving you something at least
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momentarily creates a sense of
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obligation where you feel like you have
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to talk to the sample person or maybe
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you know ask some questions about the
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product and they find that some small
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percentage of the time 2 3% of the time
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you'll actually go and you'll you'll buy
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the thing. Okay. So the give first
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principle is obviously very applicable
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in our case to cold email because the
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big hurdle is trust. And what you do is
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you start by giving something really
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small and then that gets you to some
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foot in the door where you can start a
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conversation. In the conversation you
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give them something else which gets you
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a foot in the door to where maybe you
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could send a proposal or or you know
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send them a product sample. That gets
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your foot in the door to another point
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where you essentially now have them in
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some sort of work relationship. And then
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you consistently just increase the level
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of escalation until ultimately they have
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uh you know some sort of like business
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relationship with you that that you
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wanted in the first place. Now I'll
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cover some specific ways to do this. But
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it really does just boil down um in our
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cases since we're doing outbound to
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offering some sort of help that seems
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genuine. Uh you can automate a big chunk
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of this. I'll show you guys how to do
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that later on. But it might involve
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giving them insights. Hey, you know, I
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noticed XYZ is currently misconfigured
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on XYZ's landing page. I know this is
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wild. I think you're losing between 10
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to $20,000 a month. Let me show you how
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to fix this. You do that without asking
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for anything in return. And even though
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you didn't make the ask, the ask is
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inferred. And people will assign value
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to you, like positive value, without
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assigning any of the negatives typically
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involved in the framing of like a
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business outreach transactional sense.
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So very, very powerful. And I'm going to
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show you a ton of different ways you can
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do this, but I want you to know if you
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are going to write a piece of outbound
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communicate in insert current year or
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beyond, make sure to include something
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that you are giving them so at least
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they have the sense that they're getting
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some sort of value in exchange for their
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attention or their time. Now, I covered
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this briefly in the last principle, but
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the second is micro commitments. Okay?
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And that's that sense of increasing
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escalation where you start with one
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thing which is small, use that as your
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foot in the door for another thing which
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is bigger, use that your as a foot in
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door for another thing, and so on and so
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on and so forth. In any sort of outbound
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situation, you can't just say, "Hey, do
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you want to pay me $4,000 right now?"
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Because, you know, the person on the
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other end of the line's going to say,
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"Well, who the hell are you? I've never
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said yes to you before. I have no
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pre-existing history, trust, any sort of
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established sense of of security. Why
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the hell would I do that?" But if you
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say, "Hey, you know, um, I just actually
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recorded you this custom thing and it
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walks you through how to do all this
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value stuff that I just gave you and it
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shows you how to, you know, fix your
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landing page. Would you just like, you
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know, watch it for one minute and if
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even after one minute you just don't
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think it's valuable, whatever, never
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message me again. Uh, you can tell me to
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screw off and and so on and so forth.
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It'll be fine." You know, if they watch
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that minute and they like it, you know,
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they're already essentially asenting to
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engaging in some sort of transaction
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with you. So from there, you know, you
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can turn that into like a longer video
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and from there you can turn that into an
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actual phone call. From there, you can
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turn that into a video call. From there,
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you can turn that into, you know,
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ultimately getting them to close. And
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so, this this is all about just building
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a sense of momentum where every small
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agreement makes the next slightly larger
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one feel good. Um, you know, there's a
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big study that was done a while back. I
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don't remember the specific one, but it
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it was where, you know, they they found
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that you could frame two asks and in the
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first, um, they just did the ask and in
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the second they basically made a bunch
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of tiny little ones and just just were
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like, hey, you know, is your name Bob?
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And it's like, yes. It's like, "Hey, do
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you live in whatever location?" It's
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like, "Yes." They found that the more
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times they could get a person to say yes
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before the ask, the higher the
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probability of them actually saying yes
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to the ask. And so, like, the human
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brain is very leaky. It's like, it's
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like a video game, you know, like we we
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need a patch severely because um there's
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just all these little biases and little
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hacks that people can take advantage of.
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And this is a really big one. So, if you
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want your cold emails or your cold DMs
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or your campaigns in general to really
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crush, make sure to understand micro
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commitment as well. The third is social
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proof. And this is pretty similar of a
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principle to authority which we'll also
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cover. But essentially human beings are
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like heard consensus animals. You know
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whatever your your beliefs or opinions
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on the subject you know like we make
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decisions first by looking at a bunch of
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other people and seeing whether they're
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making the same decision before we say
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yes to anything. It's basically just
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built into our DNA to like get a lay of
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the land and see okay if I make this
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decision am I the first one that's ever
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making this decision or is there some
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sort of precedent? And so with social
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proof really what you do is you just
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show or tell other people um that have
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taken the sort of action that you are
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asking them to take. You usually do this
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really informally and like the best cold
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outbound nowadays makes this like a it's
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like a throwaway line. It's like barely
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even talked about but it still provides
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the the impression that a lot of people
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are taking action. And um you know in a
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situation like saying yes to a total
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stranger obviously it's like max
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uncertainty. human beings are going to
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do social are going to rely on social
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proof rather a lot more than like a
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situation like buying a specific item at
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a grocery store or something. So the way
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you do this in practice through outbound
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is use very specific numbers. Generally
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speaking when you have concrete data so
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these are names of people that you've
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worked with results counts and so on and
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so forth. Um it's a lot more powerful
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than just saying like a lot of other
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people have signed up for this. It's
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like hey I actually just finished a
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client project for an IT business in in
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Tennessee as well. I mean they're
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realistically like a 15-inute drive from
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you. um I can hook you up with them if
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if you want. You know, something like
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that is far more persuasive than the
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vague claim of like I just I make a lot
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of money with this stuff. Likewise, hey,
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we generated $112,482
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last week for an XYZ business. You know,
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if you have these sorts of case studies,
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you got to really really use them. You
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got to take full advantage of them. And
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the way you do that is by being
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specific. And then likely, ideally, you
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want to match the reference group. So
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like you know in social proof examples
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and you can't actually do this in
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practice most of the time because you
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won't actually have like the exact case
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study unless this is a product that
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you've been selling for a while but it's
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like you know let's say the offer that
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you're running and I'll talk about
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offers later but the offer that you're
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running is for you know some sort of
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like B2B SAS uh marketing and you know
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you've worked with a lot of companies in
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this before well if in your uh let's say
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your your LinkedIn DM you mention that
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you've helped another B2B SAS company
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achieve XYZ result that's going to be
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taken a lot more sincerely ly and then
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powerfully than if you mention hey you
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know I've helped uh some some freelance
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dog walker achieve the same result it's
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like your results should always be in
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the context of the person that you are
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considering talking to the company that
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you know in my case B2B that I'm
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considering helping and so the closer it
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is to the reference group the more like
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vin diagram overlap um the reference
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group has you know this is like my
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little reference and then this over here
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is my uh prospect the more of that
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overlap they have in either their
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characteristics or their businesses or
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their their ICPS ideal customer persona
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attributes or or whatever the better the
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social proof is going to be taken. So as
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long as you can you know actually
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implement on these three show others
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taking action use specific numbers and
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matching the reference group and I'll
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give you guys a simple and
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straightforward way to do that you guys
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will crush. Next is the principle of
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authority and this is where you
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demonstrate hyper relevant expertise
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with some form of you know credentialism
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some form of like renowned
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accomplishment some form of I don't know
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like why do you think doctors always say
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that like um Dr. blank with an MD at the
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bottom of their freaking email
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signatures because you just take them
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more credibly because you know that
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they've spent a lot of time doing the
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thing. Um, it's also where you just
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signal confidence in the way that you
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write the email. So, you know, you're
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not like hedging every 5 seconds. You're
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not like, "Well, I believe maybe I could
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help you." It's like, "Hey, I could
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absolutely 100% help you. I'm very
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confident in this because I just helped
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XYZ do this before." That's combining
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social proof and authority. So, I mean,
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like, if you have any credibility that's
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pre-established, then obviously you
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should use it wherever possible. Um, you
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should make sure that the credibility
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that you're attempting to use does match
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the ICP or ideal customer persona that
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you're trying to talk to. You know, like
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I find a lot of the time in, you know,
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small to mid-size businesses, like I
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used to go very uh blue collar. Blueco
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collar people are like they're they're
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my guys. So, I'd go door to door. I'd
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knock on the freaking business door.
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I'd, you know, I'd open it. I'd shake
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hands with the receptionist or whatever.
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I found, you know, if I talk about my
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behavioral neuroscience experience to in
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like some some business plaza in the
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heart of Suriri, person would just kind
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of raise their eyebrows, not really give
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a [ __ ] and let me go. But if I came in
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and I said, "Hey, I'm a Google partner.
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I'm part of Google's credential partner
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service and I'm here to help you with
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your ads or something of that nature."
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Then people would be like, "Oh, you
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know, I'm I I know Google Ads. We run
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those." Really? You're with Google, like
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the search engine that I use every day.
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And I'll show you guys ways to get
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authority really easily. But there's
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actually tons of like really simple
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partnership programs. There's tons of
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like incentive uh uh uh you know,
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programs that you can sign up to and
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stuff like that that make that really
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easy, even if you don't have any sort of
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authority whatsoever in the niche that
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you're trying to target. Phew. Okay.
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It's pretty cold, so uh I just had to
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put a hoodie on. Next up is the rapport
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principle where you find shared context
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between you and then the person that you
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are attempting to pitch. Whatever shared
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context, whether it's like ethnic shared
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context, cultural shared context, career
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shared context, the fact that you both
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have freaking Yorkshire terriers, like
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whatever it is, if you could find a way
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to insert that in your outbound, it'll
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be significantly uh it'll land
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significantly better. Ideally, you want
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to be super specific with whatever it
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is. And then a big thing that I don't
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think a lot of people do is you also
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need to match the tone of the person
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that you're talking to. This is like
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explicit. You know, you just saying
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like, "Hey, how's it going?" How the
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hell do you spell explicit?
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Hey, how's it going? You know, I know
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you got a Yorkshire terrier. This over
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here, though, is all implicit. Now, this
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is where you mirror the communication
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styles. You mirror the message lengths.
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You mirror uh the punctuation. For
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instance, like if you were pitching to
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San Francisco VCs in like 2022 at like
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the height of like what I would consider
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to be the BS tech bubble, you would
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absolutely use like lowercase in a lot
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of the outbound messages that you would
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send them because it would signal that
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you're part of their their group, right?
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You're establishing a sense of rapport.
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Likewise, anything that allows you to uh
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uh you know create this concept of like
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alignment and and comfort with the
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person. anything that allows you or
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pushes the other person to think that I
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don't know you're sitting across from
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them at a bar or whatever you guys are
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hanging out casually generally the more
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rapport you can build and then the
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easier it is to build an established
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sense of trust. Next up is this idea of
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scarcity. Now this is where you limit
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the availability aka number of things
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you have to give them. And you can pair
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this with like the free giving uh uh you
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know principle from earlier the give
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first idea or you create some sort of
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time pressure where you give them a
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deadline in order to make the decision.
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So you know in my case I'm pitching
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outbound I send them a proposal for some
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service valued at you know $15,000 but
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that proposal expires at the end of the
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week meaning they have to make the
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decision before the end of the seven
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days or I can't maintain their price
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anymore. And then ultimately make the
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constraint real. If it's like a fake
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constraint, you know, a lot of people's
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marketing BS detectors pick pick up on
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that. So, real genuine ones like your
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own personal capacity, your own
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schedule. Um, you know, ones that where
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you tend to admit something that also
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ascribes some sort of fault to you like
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the fact that you can only take on a
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certain amount of work this week or this
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month or you're actually juggling like a
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few additional client projects. You want
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to make sure that you have the time for
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all of them together. These sorts of
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things can do really well nowadays. This
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is probably the least commonly used
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principle out of all of the influence
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ones that I'm talking about here.
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Finally, similar to rapport, you have
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the shared identity principle, which is
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where you establish some sort of common
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ground. People who are within your
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industry share specific values to you,
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whether it's like political values or as
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mentioned previously, some sort of
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cultural or ethnic value. People that
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have gone through similar challenges or
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hardships. you know, if you're pitching
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uh, you know, a business owner that's
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gone through the whole ringer and I
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don't know, we all have these
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inspirational business owner stories,
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right? Where I was down on my luck and I
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used to smoke crack and do all this
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stuff and then you can express that you
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used to live on the downtown east side
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of Vancouver or whatever. Um, you know,
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you you'll find significant inroads
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there by doing so. Likewise with the
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mirroring the tone, the tonality, the
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the the length of the messages and stuff
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like that, using in-group language like
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lowercase messages and so on and so
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forth and then highlighting some form of
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shared struggle uh will significantly
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improve the probability that whatever
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your outreach is hits. Now like I'm
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cognizant that a lot of these principles
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have overlaps and they seem pretty
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similar to each other. You don't have to
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be, you know, like an academician or a
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theoretician, I think that's a word,
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here to understand that the idea is not
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memorize every single one of these. It's
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just recognize what they look like. You
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know, if you can get in the habit of
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recognizing these patterns, you can get
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in the habit of actually learning how to
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employ them yourself. And what the rest
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of this course is going to be is
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basically going to be sheer wrote
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repetition of yourself applying these
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principles and then watching me apply
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them to, you know, take okay cold
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outbound messages and then turn them
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into fantastic cold outbound messages.
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All right, enough of the theoretical
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stuff. Let's actually talk about what
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makes a great outbound campaign. And
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this is going to apply and work
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regardless of what it is that you're
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doing, whether it's sending a DM or an
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actual email. hell, even picking up the
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phone and giving people a ring. The
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first, which I find most people miss, is
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establishing what the freaking goal of
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your outbound campaign is in the first
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place. Don't get me wrong, obviously the
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goal of most B2B campaigns specifically
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is going to revolve around money. It's
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either going to be short-term money,
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like closing a deal, or longer term
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money, like building up some sort of
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awareness or whatever, to ultimately get
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more people into a funnel to close more
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deals. But establishing exactly which of
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these things that you are attempting to
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optimize for and then assigning KPIs
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which are um basically metrics called
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key performance indicators is very very
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important and we'll talk a little bit
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about how to do so. The second is
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building a frame. Okay. Now, a big thing
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in cold email especially that's working
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really well right now and it has to do
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with one of the principles that we
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talked about earlier which was um
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establishing a shared consensus and sort
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of like in-group feeling is this idea of
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the frame of the interaction not being
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corporate or not being like super
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highbrow. Obviously, you should write in
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a way that you know is is perceivably
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straightforward, congruent and
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professional, but there are a lot of
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niches out there where your frame
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actually does need to be very different
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from what most people would consider to
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be like a reasonable thing. And this is
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going to depend a lot on like where you
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are. It's going to depend a lot on like
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the sorts of people you're pitching to.
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It's also going to depend a lot on like
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the cultural norms and maybe the
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language norms of the language that
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you're speaking in as well. So I'll chat
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about how to do that. Finally, at the
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end, we'll talk a little bit about
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iteration. Now, realistically, what
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makes a great outbound campaign is
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having these two, having time, and then
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applying some sort of like change based
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off of the data. And I think people can
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figure out one and two pretty
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straightforwardly just with the concept
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that I'm talking about. But that missing
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third piece is iterating. Like when I
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write a fantastic piece of copy, it's
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usually not fantastic right away. You
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know, at the time of writing, maybe it
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gets a reply to like 3 and a half% or
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whatever, which is like, you know, it's
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okay, but it's not winning me any
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freaking awards. The reality is the
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entire game of outbound is like a data
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scientist sort of game where like you
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can start with a campaign, okay, get it
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to 3.5% over here, make a couple of
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changes based off that data, get it to
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you know, 5%,
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8%, and so on and so forth, and
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basically gradually climb a hill or
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evolve to the point where like you have
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a a killer, amazing, fantastic campaign
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that's 10%. It is very rare
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to one shot a campaign, okay?
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Which is where you just write it
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fantastically and amazingly the first
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time, send it, and then it just does
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everything that you want it to.
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Realistically, there's almost always a
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funneling down process where you write
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multiple versions of the copy. You test
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that copy across, you know, your data
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set. You get some results allowing for
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time for the market to respond obviously
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to your communicate. And then you
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iterate based off of the findings. You
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know, you have three campaigns. One has
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a 10% reply rate, the other two have 2%
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reply rates. What are you going to do?
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Keep sending all three? No, you're going
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to scratch the lowest performers, and
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then you're going to build new variants
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based off the high performer. In that
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way, you're basically evolving your
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email campaign over time, your your SMS
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campaign over time, your DM campaign
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over time, and then getting a lot uh
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better results. Okay, so let's start
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with principle one, which is defining
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establishing clear goals. So there are a
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lot of people out there that see
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campaigns as sort of like a a broader
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system that you know results in some
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outbound metric that you want. I
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personally see it as like an isolated
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instance. I want every single email I
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send or every single SMS I send to
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function as a self-contained
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campaign. Now, it's not that I can't add
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more steps to the campaign, can't have a
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second email, a follow-up SMS, and so on
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and so forth, but I basically want if
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you stripped away every other piece of
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messages except for just that one, that
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one should be able to do the whole job
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on its own. And this differs from what a
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lot of other people say. And I think if
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you wanted to be truly optimal, you
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would have a sense of both. You'd have a
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sense of both, you know, like local
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within one message and then also how it
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all ties together broader. But I just
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think for simplicity sake, it's so much
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easier for me just to optimize the hell
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out of a single message and then just
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make sure it follows all the the four
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copyrightiting points which I'm going to
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talk about in the next section. So in
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order to do that, the way that I always
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think of my goals is what is the one
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thing that I want them to do after
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reading my message, after reading the
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specific email that I crafted. Should I
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uh book a call? Should I visit some sort
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of page? Basically, there are variety of
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different things that anybody can do
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after reading a message, obviously. and
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you just need to pick one of them. Okay?
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So, I'm just going to give you some
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examples over here. Um, the first thing
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is they could reply. Obviously, that's
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pretty easy, right? Reply yes. And if
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they reply yes, you give them something
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or, you know, what do you think about
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this? And then if they tell you, then
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obviously they're sort of like
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escalating their commitment. The second
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is they could watch something. Watching
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something is typically more of an ask
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because a lot of the time they're
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clicking a link. They are opening some
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asset. You know, it's like a file. it's
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it's outside of the email um hierarchy
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and so it exists as sort of like a a
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bigger step but it's usually something
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you can get just in the first piece of
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communicy. The next is book some sort of
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call. Now this is a lot tougher
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obviously but for most people you that
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sell services specifically or looking
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for some sort of partnerships if they're
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selling some some sort of ecom thing,
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you know, retail and and so on and so
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forth. This is like a big big ask, but
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it's also a lot closer to ultimately
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what it is that you're trying to do.
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Finally, you can also get somebody just
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to buy something through a cold email.
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And this to me is like, you know,
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obviously golden grail. If you could
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just send out a bajillion emails with
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like a freaking payment link and have
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10% of those people respond, you're
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doing something right. Uh but in
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practice, this is something that like we
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don't we don't typically do. And so
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realistically, the campaigns that I
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create, I'm either gunning for some sort
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of reply, I'm gunning for some sort of
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like asset watch or link click, or I'm
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gunning for them to book a call where I
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can, you know, set that and then have a
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conversation with them and actually sell
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them later on. Very rarely do we
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actually go all the way to buy. And
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we're certainly not putting like the
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pricing or whatever in in an email for
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the most part these days. So what that
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means is you're going to be picking one
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of these three. Okay? And there are some
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other ones as well, but these are the
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these are the main I think I think
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buckets that most of my outbound tends
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to go into. Now, if your goal is a
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reply, you're going to write that in a
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very different way than if your goal is
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to book a call. And that's because, you
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know, in cold email typically, um, any
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sort of outbound that you send, you want
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to be hyper specific with it. You want
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to minimize the number of steps that the
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person has to take in order to consume
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what it is that you're asking them for.
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So in our case, booking a call, for
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instance, I don't want me to be like,
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"Hey, what do you think about this?" And
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they're like, "Yeah, that sounds pretty
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cool." And then I'm like, "All right,
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sweet. So do you want to book a call?"
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And then they're like, "Yeah, I'd love
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to book a call." And you're like, "All
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right, sweet. So what time works for
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you?" And they're like, "All right, 2
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p.m." And I'm like, "I'm not available
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at 2 p.m. Why don't we try 2:30?" And
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they're like, "I can't do 2:30. I'm
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walking my dog, so why don't we do 4
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p.m.?" That's a lot of steps, right? And
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what you'll find in any sort of outbound
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campaign is the more steps you have
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typically the lower the performances
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because leads just leak. Prospects just
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leave. They I don't know their grandmas
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pass away or whatever. They're out for
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two weeks. A million different things
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could happen, but ultimately speaking
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like you're not the priority in their
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life. So you want to minimize the number
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of steps involved. Give them everything
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they need and actually in order to
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actually consume the offer. Um and then
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that'll significantly improve the
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probability of success. So you know if
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you're going for a reply, that's
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obviously very vague in general. If
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you're going for a book a call though,
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typically you'll actually like provide
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the times of the call that you want to
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have that day. You'll say, "Hey, can I
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give you a ring at 2:15? I have your
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phone number right over here. It's this.
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Is that cool?" You know, "Hey, uh, I
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actually just generated or I just
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created this asset for you. Um, you
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know, do you want me to send it over?"
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If you do, it'll be a one uh click link.
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Uh, I don't have to have you download
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anything or anything like that. You
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literally just click it, then you can
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watch the video. It's about 30 seconds.
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How's that sound? Obviously, depending
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on the specific goal that you have, the
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writing is going to be quite different.
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So you just have to figure all this
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stuff out first. And then finally, if
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you can't describe your goal in one
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sentence, I don't personally think
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you're ready to write your campaign. So
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if my goal is to book calls for a B2B
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outbound lead genen offer, okay, if
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that's my goal, I'm good. But if I can't
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actually like summarize what it is that
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I'm trying to do in just a sentence,
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odds are I haven't really thought deeply
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enough yet about what it is that I'm
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trying to do with cold email. and I'm
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probably just doing cold email or cold
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SMS or LinkedIns or whatever the hell
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simply because I think it's like a trend
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and it's kind of hot right now. Like
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actually sit down and think a little bit
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about what it is that you're trying to
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do because the reality is you can sell
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anything through outbound. I've sold
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more or less anything through outbound.
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Um you know whether it's like ecom
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products literally you know selling some
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sort of little widget or you know some
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little keychain thing or some larger
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product that costs more money you can do
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that through Admount. Whether it's
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selling like a high ticket service
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that's 105 $20,000, you could do that
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through outbound. Whether it's selling
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like coaching or some sort of ongoing
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thing, you could do that through
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outbound. So, it's not about like what
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it is that you're selling, although
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obviously some are more easy than others
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just given conventions and so on and so
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forth. It's just about like do you know
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why you're running this campaign in the
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first place because if you don't know
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why you're running a campaign, then
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there's no point in even running the
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campaign. The second major principle is
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this frame idea. And nowadays with AI
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being the number one topic on basically
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every video social media platform and so
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on and so forth, this is more important
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than ever. But basically in my case,
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this just boils down to writing like a
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human. The frame of cold outbound is one
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to one comms.
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Remember earlier how I gave you that big
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laundry list of principles and it was
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things like establish a sense of
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rapport, escalate through micro
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commitments, instill a sense of
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scarcity, and so on and so forth. Well,
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the entire way that you get those
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principles on paper is you just write as
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if the person thinks you're writing just
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to them. Obviously, most of the time
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we're going to be using templates. We're
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not actually handcrafting every
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individual email. But it's very
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important that the person on the other
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end of the line thinks that you wrote
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that email just for them. Literally is
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like, "Hey, I was standing on the side
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of the street calling an Uber and then I
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saw some notification come up about your
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business and I just I had to like
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message you right now." Like that's the
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vibe that you want people to have. And
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so there are a couple of tests that you
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can do for this. The first is the text
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message test. If a friend saw you typing
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this to them, would they think that it
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was a personal message or in a mass
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email? You want to optimize for
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personal. And I literally mean like go
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through your phone or go through your
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email inbox and just see how are you
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writing to people that you don't
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actually have super crazy business
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relationships with, but you do have very
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strong trust relationships with. Okay.
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What you want to do is typically mirror
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that tone. and you'll adjust that
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depending on some of the cultural
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nuances and the languages like I talked
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about, but in general, that is how you
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do it. The second is you kill corporate
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signals that give away that it's um some
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sort of sales pitch. So, hope this finds
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you well. No super illustrious signature
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block with Dr. Sarif that does blah blah
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blah. You know, in general, you don't
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even want to say we. It's not like,
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yeah, we help people do XYZ. It's like,
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hey, I help people do XYZ. Hey, I help
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you do XYZ. Hey, I'm reaching out to you
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because I think I can help you
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specifically with a specific thing that
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I would only actually be able to put in
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the email if I'd done a ton of research
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on you. In general, you want it to be
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short, casual, slightly imperfect, like
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a real person having a conversation. And
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with AI and stuff like that, it's gotten
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so far that one of the optimal
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strategies nowadays is literally to like
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insert some issues with your email to
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make the person be like, "Oh, wow. This
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guy must have actually wrote this to me
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on his phone." It's things like
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including sent from my iPhone, send for
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my Android, whatever at the bottom of
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the email. It's taking advantage of
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these little psychological quirks to
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make people think that like, you know,
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you sat down and did it. And then
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obviously one person to one person, you
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know, a big test is just if I read this
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message back, if somebody sent this to
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me, would I think that they were just
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spamming me with a big wide-ranging
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copyrighting campaign or would I think
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that they actually wrote this thing for
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me? So, it's it's just person to person.
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This is not like, you know, P2 uh what's
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the C2P,
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right? Like it's it's P2P, okay? It's
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player to player. It's person to person.
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It's not company sending millions of
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emails to faceless dollar signs to try
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and convert them. Instead, you're like,
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"Hey, I'm just one dude or I'm one chick
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and I'm looking to help out another dude
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or another chick, and here's how I'm
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going to do it." Finally, you combine
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all of this sort of casual frame,
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congruence, trust building, and then
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ultimately your your goal, which is get
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them book a call or maybe get a reply or
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whatever, with sort of like this data
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scientist angle where you're iterating
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all the time. And so essentially the way
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that you know the scientific method
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works is you will come up with some form
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of hypothesis. So you'll say you know I
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think this email would help me book
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calls. Very simple hypothesis. You write
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that email, you send it and then what
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you do is you just you evaluate the
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results. If the results aren't what you
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want or if the results suggest that
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maybe your email isn't as good or your
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your your DM or something could could
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use some work, what you do is you take
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the data, the feedback, okay, and then
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you apply it to improve the quality of
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the email. So I mean it's very very
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scientific method. Okay. But in general,
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it's about establishing some sort of
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campaign. Okay. It's getting some sort
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of feedback, which I'm just going to
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call Y. And then it's ultimately making
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some changes. And then it's just looping
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this back on its tail over and over and
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over and over and over again until your
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thing gets better and better and better.
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So realistically, you know, if we're
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sending emails, I'm not just going to
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send one to one person. I'm going to
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treat this like a science experiment.
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I'm going to try and control for all my
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variables. So, I'm going to send 500 to
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a,000 to like get enough statistical uh
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you know backing behind any conclusion
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that I draw that I'm a lot more
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confident in doing so. I'm going to
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measure specific KPIs like reply rate.
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Okay. I'm going to measure uh uh open
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rate if that's visible. I'm going to
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mention I'm going to measure booked call
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rate. I'm going to measure proposal sent
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rate. I'm going to measure product
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purchase rate. I'm basically going to
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build like a big funnel, which you know
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is a form of conversion rate
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optimization with all of my metrics. So,
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I'm going to have opens. I'm going to
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have replies. I'm going to have like
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optins, which is where they actually
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like do the next step. I'm going to
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have, I don't know, calls. I'm going to
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have proposals if I'm selling some sort
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of service. I'm actually going to have
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closed. And then, you know what I'd even
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have here is I'd even have lifetime
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value um of the people that I close that
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I could tie how long people work with me
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and how much total money I make to
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whatever the specific campaign is that I
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sent. I'm going to show you guys how to
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do all this stuff as we proceed.
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Although I want you to know that this is
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typically pretty platform dependent. If
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you're sending, you know, LinkedIn DMs,
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your uh data will be a little bit
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different than if you're sending cold
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emails, and that's going to be a little
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bit different than if you're if you're
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doing outbound phone calls. In general,
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you're going to want to kill whatever
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losers you are running really fast. So,
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after you've sent enough or called
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enough or whatever the heck, just cut
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the bottom performers immediately, write
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new variants based off the top
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performers, and then test again. And
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ideally, you just want to go data over
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your gut feeling. Like, our intuitions
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are powerful and stuff like that, but I
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can't tell you how many times I've
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written a a campaign and then thought,
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"There's no way this would ever work."
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and then it gets like a 15% reply rate
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and generates hundreds of thousands of
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dollars. That occurs shockingly often
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which makes me realize that my
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intuitions are nowhere near as valuable
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as just data in general. You want to get
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all of your results not from your own
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head but from the actual market because
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the market is the truest uh proxy for
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what reality really is for us. You know,
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since we're looking to sell things and
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obviously make money, customers are the
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only people that that really matter. in
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a variant. This is where people get this
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idea of like the customer is always
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right because they're like, "Well, the
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customer is always right because the
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customer pays me, right? So, I should
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just listen to the customer." But I also
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want you to take that with a grain of
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salt because there's a difference
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between a stated preference, which is
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where a customer explicitly tells you
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something like, "Hey, I don't like that
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you ask me this, and a revealed
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preference, which is really what's going
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on inside the customer's head." What
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you'll find as well is that stated and
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revealed preferences are kind of
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different from each other. So rather
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than the customer always being right,
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it's more so just like look at the
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behavior of the customer and optimize
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for that.
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All right, so just keeping track of
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time, we're done the psychology saying
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yes to a message from a stranger. We are
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now on three components of a successful
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piece of outbound. Um, and next up it's
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time to talk about my copyrightiting
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frameworks. This is the same thing as
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gener $15 million. What this is is this
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is essentially us taking these these
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principles and then these components and
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then just like sticking them all
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together into a repeatable formula. So
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this is a formula, a system, a product,
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a rule book, a road map, just something
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that you can consistently come back on
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anytime you're writing good copy. And so
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I have the four steps right over here.
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I'll cover them all in due time. And
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then I also have a couple of um
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templates that basically we're going to
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build using this formula. Okay. All
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right. So without further ado, the
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formula is based off of four steps. The
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first is personalization.
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The second is who am I? So it's defining
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who you are. The third is your offer.
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And then the fourth is your CTA. And for
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those of you guys that don't know, that
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just stands for call to action, which is
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a marketing term where basically you get
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somebody to do something uh ask for a
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specific action. Okay. So let's cover
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all three of these or all four of these,
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sorry. uh in turn. So the very first
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thing you have to do with any cold email
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is you have to personalize it. And
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because the highest ROI place in an
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entire cold email is always the very
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beginning of the email. Why? Because the
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very beginning of the email is the only
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place you can ensure that all readers of
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the email will actually read. Email drop
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off is nuts. Like if the first word is
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over here at 100% of people, then the
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fifth word is like down here at 50% of
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people. Like people drop off. they don't
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actually read much further than a few
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words unless you hook their interest.
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So, because it's the highest ROI place
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in the whole email, the best thing you
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can do is just hook their attention
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using some sort of extraordinarily
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personalized seeming line. Okay? And so,
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the personalization is composed of a
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couple things. Usually, it's a greeting.
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So, it's like, "Hey, how's it going?"
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Then it's an observation or a thing in
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common. Okay? If you think about it,
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this sort of handles the rapport. The
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thing in common is supposed to handle
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both rapport and then like signaling
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that you're part of their ingroup. And
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then you use this as an opportunity to
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segue into your pitch. And the whole
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idea is this
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cannot signal
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that you are selling something. The
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entire point is essentially, and I know
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this sounds bad, but you are sneakily
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and cleverly evading their sales radar.
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So, the idea is you have to start every
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email with something that makes a reader
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think, "Wow, this person over here
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actually looked at my stuff. They read
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my blog post. Maybe they've watched my
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4-hour Claude code master class," which
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you guys should definitely watch. You
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haven't. Maybe they've read my book.
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Maybe they've followed me on LinkedIn
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and so on and so on and so forth. The
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reality of this is though is that so
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many people take this principle and go
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way too far when what you should be
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doing is you should be keeping it short
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and informal because uh personalizations
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that are short and informal tend to be
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personalizations that are real. The
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longer it is, the less the person will
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think you actually sent it to them. So
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my personal rule of thumb is it's two
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sentences max. One sentence is ideal.
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And the most important thing is just
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like would a real person send what I'm
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sending? If the answer is yes,
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fantastic. You have a strong opener. But
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if you end up generating milk toast LLM,
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large language model slop like, "Hey
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Stacy, love how passionate you are about
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process optimization and aligning
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corporations with diversity outcomes at
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BeaverC." Then you're shooting yourself
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in the foot. The number one giveaway of
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like a shitty or like an AI cold email
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nowadays, at least um as of the time of
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this recording, is like people will use
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AI to write their whole email and then
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they'll always say something so stupid
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at the beginning, something that no
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human being would actually pick up on or
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note. Like, you know, I I don't care how
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passionate you are about process
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optimization and aligning corporations
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with the diversity outcomes at Beaver
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Corp. Like, I don't, you know, like and
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and you don't care that I care about
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that. What you care about is, you know,
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hey Stacy, saw you went to uh, you know,
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uh, UCLA. That's wild. You know, my
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cousin went down there. That at least
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makes you stop and go like, huh, like,
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who who is this person again? And that
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is exactly what you want. Basically, the
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entire point of personalization is for
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the person you're sending to to go,
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wait, who is that? Do I know this
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person? And then that sneaky little
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clever hack that buys you like a good 30
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seconds of them reading through the rest
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of your email. And once you have like,
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you know, the the foot in the door once
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they're actually reading your email,
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then through escalation of commitment
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and then through micro asks and other
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principles that we've already talked
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about psychologically, you can actually
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get a stranger who's never talked to you
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before, who's not even talking to you in
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real life, but just reading your text on
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a screen to do something for you. So, a
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big chunk of success with
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personalization, the very first chunk of
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an email, okay, is through what's called
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cold reading. Now, if you've never done
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uh any sort of like cold reading or if
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you've never heard about this before,
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what cold reading is is it's a set of
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psychological techniques used to
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convince someone that you know them
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intimately, even if you've never met
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them before. If you guys have ever seen
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like psychic TV shows or mentalists, uh
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it was a lovely series or or like some
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clairvoyant stuff. Basically, the the
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the whole way that that works, assuming
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that, you know, the supernatural stuff
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isn't actually real, cuz who knows,
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maybe it is and I'm just wrong here. um
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is is they're extraordinarily
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observative, but then what they do with
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their observation skills is they make in
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general statements that actually apply
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to like 80% of the population that a
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human being upon first read or first
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glance would not know applies to 80% of
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the population. So, um I don't know like
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a common thing that people will say, you
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know, if you if you come on one of those
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psychic talk shows or something and
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somebody's like trying to cold read you
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is, you know, hey, you're you're usually
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quiet, but um I've noticed that you can
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be really talkative when you're
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comfortable. You know, you you say that
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to, I don't know, some young mom who
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isn't really paying attention, and
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they're going to think like, "Yeah,
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that's so right. You know, I am usually
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quiet, but at the same time, you know,
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when I when I get comfortable, I am
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talkative. Like, hm, this person knows
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me." Like, this is obviously kind of
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[ __ ] right? Like, no duh. Every
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human being on freaking planet Earth is
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probably quiet initially and then grows
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more comfortable and and and thus more
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talkative. But most people for whatever
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reason just lack the ability to like
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realize that they are not that they are
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sorry a representative sample of like
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the whole population cuz we all think
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that we're special, right? So I'm going
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to give you guys a quick example here
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and um it's an example that I've really
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tried to formulate for my for myself. A
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good example of this is this right over
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here is going to be our email template
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that we're going to use for for this
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section of the course. And this right
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over here is the personalization. And so
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what I have here is, "Hey Nick, love
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your channel, man. Very no BS and has
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helped me get started in management
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consulting. Think I can help you with
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something and maybe return a bit of the
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favor you've unwittingly done me." This
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is not like AI generated at all. This is
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100% I just I just wrote this. And you
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know what the reality is? You could send
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this to any YouTuber. Any YouTuber,
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anybody that makes any sort of
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businessto business content that's a
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male anyway with men and you could say,
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"Hey Sam, love your channel, man. It's
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very no BS and helped me get started in
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management consulting. Why? Because
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management consulting is so general that
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any business model would apply to it.
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Whether it's like a person making
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YouTube videos about SAS, a person
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making YouTube videos about, you know,
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AI automation like me, a person making
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YouTube videos about like cold email
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copyrightiting, whatever. And then
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everybody over here that has like love
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your channel, it's very no BS. Everybody
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thinks their channel is very no BS. It's
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like I'm not going to assume that a
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bunch of other channels are no no BS
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because the whole reason why my channel
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performs so well is because it's no BS
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straight to the point. So this is what
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we call cold reading. And so that's sort
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of option number one. And that's
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actually the option that I recommend
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people like go with. Like you should
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actually just cold read. You don't even
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need to AI personalize stuff to be
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honest. Although it obviously helps. The
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next step up with personalization though
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is you take these overly general vague
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statements and what you do is you
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combine them with artificial
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intelligence to show you how to do later
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on in the course where basically AI
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scrapes some data source about the
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person like for instance where they went
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to college or something and then you
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just weave it into a template that's
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pretty well cold read. So I don't know
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something about UCLA like yo saw you
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went to UCLA wild stuff. Uh right like
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were you in whatever famous teacher's
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third year. The person's going to
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recognize the famous teacher. They're
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not going to recognize the fact that
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like you know that it's a famous teacher
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because they're really big or you could
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just scrape all their information
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online. They're gonna be like, "Oh, this
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person's probably familiar with UCLA."
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Meanwhile, what you're actually doing is
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you're just getting your foot in the
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door. People respond to you. Now you
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have like an escalation of commitment
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through cold email. Now you can
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actually, I don't know, pitch them
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whatever the hell you want. Or, you
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know, even if that doesn't happen, what
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you've done is you bought a few seconds
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of attention. Okay, so that's step one.
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It's personalization. And to be clear,
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what we got from that was, um, hey Nick,
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love your channel, man. It's very no BS.
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Has helped me get started in management
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consulting. I think I can help you with
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something. Maybe return a bit of the
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favor you've unwittingly done with me.
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Oh, by the way, one more thing. You see
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this management consulting bit? This
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over here is called voluntary disclosure
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of information. And voluntary disclosure
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of information is a common tactic used
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to build rapport through things like
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cold email and also through the FBI. um
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if you voluntarily disclose some bit of
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information about yourself, you're some
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spy or something like that person on the
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other end of the line, they will trust
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you more because they will know that you
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just, you know, gave them some
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information. So, when you say like,
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"Hey, this helped me get my start in
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management consulting." Obviously, you
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know, it's it's [ __ ] I didn't help
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them get their start in management
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consulting. Hopefully, that's clear. Um
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but when you make some sort of statement
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like that that's vague or general, but
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then is like still a giveaway of
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personal info, the person on the other
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end of the lines can be, "Oh, wow.
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Really? That's wild?" You know, and if
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you don't feel comfortable saying, "Help
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me get started in management
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consulting." You can also say, you know,
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very no BS videos like this, help me get
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started in management consulting or
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something. And then you have both uh you
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know, you're you're aligned on the uh on
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that side and then you're also aligned
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on the whole voluntary disclosure um
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side as well. People have done really
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wild stuff with that literally like I
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don't know telling you about their cat
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or something in an email. And then
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people are like, "Well, aren't isn't the
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whole point of cold email that it has to
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be really short and really punchy?" So
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how does that work? When you know the
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rules, you can break them. But you know,
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at this point you're still learning the
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rules. So be careful with all that.
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Okay. Anyway, part one's personalization
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and it cannot signal that you are
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selling something.
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On to part number two, which is the who
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am I statement. Okay. So basically the
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sequence of events when somebody reads a
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cold email is when they start reading
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the very first thing they're thinking of
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is oh is this person a scammer and or a
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spammer? And so if you just like
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personalize the hell out of your email,
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they will immediately know you're not a
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scammer or a spammer. Why? Because
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scammers and spammers don't actually do
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any sort of personalization. They just
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send five quadrillion emails a day to
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every human being on Earth with a social
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insurance number. Now, because you say,
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"Hey, Stacy, you know, uh, saw you went
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to UCLA or whatever." You know, they're
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at least going to know that you're not
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like a scammer or a spammer. Um, so long
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as your your personalization is good and
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you have some sort of cold reading. Now,
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the next thing they're going to think of
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once you've solved that, okay, cuz keep
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in mind their uh defenses are really
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high initially. A lot of people are
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selling absolute [ __ ] The next thing
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they're going to think about is, okay,
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so this person isn't a scammer, then who
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are they and why should I give a [ __ ]
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And so that's what this next step
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solves. So this is where you combine
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some sort of social proof and some sort
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of brief statement to just quell the
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concern at the back of their mind that
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just tells them who you are and why it
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matters. Okay? So like literally like
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this question here is, "Hey, is this
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person here to scam me?" No. Okay. So
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next question is, "Who the hell are they
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and why does it matter?" And it's like,
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okay, so I'm this guy and this is why it
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matters because I've made all this
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money. So my recommendation here is just
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like you did with the personalization,
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keep it to one or two sentences because
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we're just we're just answering rapid
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fire immediate questions that human
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beings pattern match. You can't tell
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I've sent a lot of emails. The social
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proof is your introduction. The best way
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to do this, and this is what allows you
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to take advantage of another one of
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those psychological principles in my
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experience, is say something like, "I
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currently work with insert client." And
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you can either name the client by name
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or you could say it's an industry client
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in location to help them do thing. And
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thing is similar to what they've done.
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We've done specific number, you know,
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$4,892
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in the last two days through uh B2B
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outbound. So the whole idea here, okay,
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is not only are you knocking out social
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proof because you are showing people why
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you matter, okay, you're also aligning
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yourself with their inroup by saying,
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"Hey, I actually currently work with
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whatever the company is and it's similar
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to the company of the person that you're
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reaching out to, right? So when you say
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weave, now you're implying that you're
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in their inroup and you have social
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proof within their inroup, which is
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obviously maximally congruent, maximally
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aligned, and then it actually seems
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pretty impressive, right? And then
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you're also showing off a little bit,
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right? And so this is how you get all of
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the above in like as few characters as
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possible. Um, you know, you you identify
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yourself. You make it clear like, hey,
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you know, I do X, Y, and Z. You know,
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you make it clear why that matters. You
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make it clear that you are on their
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level. Now, in terms of the email
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template, okay, this first section here
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was, "Hey, Nick, love your channel.
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Barry, no BS. Help me get started
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management consulting. I think I can
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help you with something and maybe return
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a bit of the favor and would done me."
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This next section here is where you
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flex. I currently work with a 10 mil
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subtuber, Mr. X, to help him build
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landing pages. We have made 3 mil in the
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last month alone. What is this doing?
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Just as I mentioned earlier, 10 mil
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subtuber. It implies that well actually
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it explicitly states that I work with
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somebody important. Therefore, I am
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borrowing their credibility. I am
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important as well. That's my social
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proof. And then it's also like, hey,
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this is a YouTuber, right? So, I work
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with a YouTuber. We have made three mill
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last month alone. It's like, okay, so
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I'm like you. you know, I understand the
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game. I'm a YouTuber. We are part of
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something. Okay. And next up, we have
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the offer. Now, this is typically where
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you have an observation and then what I
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call almost like a too good to be true
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offer. And I should really just space
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this out a little bit more so I could
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see it better. Um, this is where you
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make them an offer so good that saying
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no feels pretty irrational. The whole
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idea is you want to point out something
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specific about their situation, some
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observation, some pain point that they
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have, some need. And keep in mind here
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that this is very cold readable as well.
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You know, if I say, I think you're
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leaking money right now with your
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landing page. Like basically every
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business on earth is going to have a
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landing page, right? And a lot of
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businesses on earth are going to think
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their landing page isn't very good. So
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when you say, "Hey, you know, I work
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with Mr. Beast. I help them make landing
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pages. Mr. X, I help them make landing
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pages and we've generated three million
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last month alone." Know there's not a
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lot of feel, but I think you're leaking
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money with your with your current
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funnel. um just the way you've set it up
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and like the various uh uh I don't know
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the funnel mapping and whatever um
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doesn't seem really aligned with what I
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would have considered your content to
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be. Okay, so that's your observation and
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then your too good to be true offer is
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where you basically present um something
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that is very formulaic and I'll show you
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that in a second that has built-in risk
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reversal. So the idea is the prospect
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should risk nothing. All the risk should
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be on you the business owner. A good
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template for the offer, okay, is I will
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do X thing in Y. That's not how you
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spell a Y. Y time or Z risk mitigation.
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So I will generate you $10,000. Okay.
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In 60 days or I'll keep working for free
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until I do. Perfect combination of an
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offer. Alternatively, I will get you 20
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calls, okay, in 90 days or I'll give you
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all of your money back. Basically, you
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know, again, it's free. I will do X
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amazing thing for you in Y amazing short
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amount of time, or I'll send you a $500
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gift card to your favorite steak place.
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Just let me know where that is. Whatever
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it is, the whole idea, and I'm going to
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go way more into depth on this later, is
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that it just needs to sound really good,
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really clean, be super quantified, be
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hyper specific. You're not going to
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include a range here. I'll make you
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between 10 to 20k. It's like, no, I'll
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make you 20k in 2 or 3 months in 90 days
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or I'm going to do an exact sequence of
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steps that is very telegraphed that you
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probably have seen before and
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understand. And you want them to be
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like, well, the only situation in which
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any human being would ever say that to
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me is if they're very confident that
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they are good at what they do. So
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basically the first section here, okay,
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personalization, that just gets them to
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say you're not a spammer. The second
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step here, which is identity. Who am I
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and why do we give a [ __ ] That tells
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them who you are and why they should
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give a [ __ ] this third section, offer,
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okay, is now, okay, so now that you're
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somebody and I kind of do give a [ __ ]
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what can you do for me? And so in this
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case, I'm saying, I went through your
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landing page at Maker School and
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frankly, you are bleeding money, my
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friend. I'm so confident that even a
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couple minor changes here could fix this
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that I bet I could generate at least
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100K for you in the next 60 days. I do
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this 100% upfront, no strings, would
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take 5 minutes of your time, and only if
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I hit 100K would I ask you for a small
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cap, maybe 15 to 20%.
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Okay, so here you're probably like,
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"Well, dude, like am I doing work for
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free?" I mean, keep in mind that if you
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want to pitch somebody you've never
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talked to before in your entire life on
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like a high ticket deal, you really have
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to put your money where your mouth is.
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I'm not saying you have to work for
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free. Not at all. But you do need to
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understand this. the lengths of
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skepticism a person will have and the
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number of factors that are against you
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getting on a phone call with them or
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some sort of video call with them where
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you can actually explain the offer are
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so much higher and harder than anything
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you could have even hoped to imagine if
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you haven't done this before. That the
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only way to cut through the noise, the
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constant torrent of [ __ ] is to have
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some amazing offer that sounds kind of
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almost too good to be true that allows
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you to get on the call and then explain,
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"Okay, this isn't actually too good to
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be true. is actually pretty grounded in
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science and and facts. And I've actually
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done this sort of thing before. And
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here's how we've done it. Okay. So, no,
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you're not working for free, but you do
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have to offer a guarantee. That is just
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how it works in any sort of cold ad
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nowadays. Uh if I had known what I just
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told you guys right now back in my door
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to door days, I probably would have made
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over a million dollars. Uh not just, you
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know, $15, $200,000.
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So, uh here's more or less why this
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matters. Okay. It's because the
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conversion rate which is expressed as a
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percentage is basically directly
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proportional to the perceived ROI
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that you can deliver times how much
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trust they have that you can actually
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deliver the return on investment. Okay,
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divided by the friction involved in
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getting started. Okay. And this last
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point is a little bit more call to
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actiony based but I'll run you through
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it regardless. Now, if I'm offering, you
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know, $10,000 in 60 days and it's a
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business that makes $10,000, this return
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on investment is going to seem really
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big to them. Now, if I do so in a really
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trustworthy way and I give them a bunch
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of social proof with actual people's
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names and stuff like that, you know, the
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trust at least up upfront on the offer
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is going to be relatively high. And if I
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tell them that you don't have to do a
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single thing, I'll take care of it all
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for you. It'll just take 15 minutes of
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your time on a call, then the friction
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is going to be really low. And do you
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know what happens mathematically when
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the numerator is high, the other
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numerator is high, and the denominator
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is really low. Well, the number that you
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end up with is really high, right? The
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conversion rate's going to be high. Um,
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you know, if any one of these was
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reversed, so if the return on investment
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was shitty, the trust was shitty, or the
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friction was really high, then I would
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directly um, you know, slow down my
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conversion rate by whatever factor uh,
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those things are. Am I actually doing
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like math every time I create one of
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these things? No, obviously not. This is
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just a way to think about it. Now,
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another way to think about this is
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because a lot of people at this point
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are like, "Well, I don't want to do work
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for free and stuff like that." Is your
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offers are correlated to the incomes and
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the statuses of the businesses that
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you're working with. What I mean by that
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is, you know, my business does over
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$300,000 in profit per month. Okay? That
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means that in 60 days, somebody's
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pitching me. In 60 days, I would have
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done somewhere between 600 to maybe
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$700,000 in profit. Okay? When somebody
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says generate at least 100k for you,
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what they're what they mean is number
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one, it's not profit, okay? It's
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revenue. All they have to do is just
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generate some form of top of funnel,
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which is much easier than generating
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actual profit. So that's number one.
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Number two, if my business would have
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made 6 or $700,000 in a time period, and
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the person's coming in offering to fix
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or improve my revenue by 100,000, all
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they need to do is they just need to
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improve the effectiveness of my business
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by 16%. Right? And if I genuinely have
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something that is like crazy cracked,
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okay, like I'm a person that's pitching
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now and I have some crazy cracked system
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and I'm actually very confident in my
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offer. Um, you know, I'm sure I could
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increase your revenue by 16% or
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something like that if I if I've truly
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found a hack in the market and that's
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why I'm going going to market with this
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offer. So, for instance, like cold
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email, like cold email to me is broken
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and it's broken because I'm quite good
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at it obviously, but it's it's broken in
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general because of the distribution and
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the leverage. if you play your cards
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right. Anybody can get really good at
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this stuff really quickly, assuming that
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they understand some of the principles
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that I'm talking about here. So, when I
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go to people and I make outrageous
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sounding claims like, "I will make you
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$10,000 in the next 60 days," or, "I
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will generate you 20 booked meetings in
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the next 60 days." Meanwhile, they've
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they've booked one meeting in the last
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60 days, so I'm 20xing their funnel.
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People look at me and they're like,
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"What the hell? That's crazy." But you
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understand that like you're doing this
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in the context of the the industry that
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you're working with. If I'm pitching
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YouTubers that make5 to$10 million a
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year and then I make an offer for them
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saying like, "Hey, I'll help you make
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$100,000 in additional in the next 60
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days and they take me up on that, what's
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that really?" I mean, if I'm making 100k
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and then they make five, you know, this
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is like 100k and that's technically 5
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million, right? Expressed as a
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percentage, this is 150th and then 150th
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is really 2%. So, what do I have to do
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over that time period? I just have to
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increase the effectiveness of their
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business by 2%. Let me tell you, I mean,
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as a as a freaking hustler, as somebody
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that's like been there, done that, who's
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who's grinded it out, who has that old
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school gumption, I will find a way to
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improve the the revenue of this business
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or the effectiveness of the business or
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whatever the hell by 2%. And that's even
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if I didn't have a cracked ass system, I
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obviously do. Okay, so I don't actually
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recommend having offers be like
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financially based. I'm going to talk a
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lot more about that later, but I just
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wanted to show you guys here what like a
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real strong guarantee would look like
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where somebody's like, "Well, dude, why
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wouldn't I take the sub 100K?" And then
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like you're pitching to a bunch of
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freaking millionaires anyway because
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obviously you pick your niches, right?
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Not like a total [ __ ] Um, you know,
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like even if you don't get them the
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result, so let's say I make $99,000 for
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my customer instead of $100,000. You
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know, some of them are going to be dicks
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and they're going to look at that and be
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like, "Yeah, I mean like you missed it
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by 1K, so I want all my money back." So
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then you send them their $10,000 back or
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whatever. You know, some of them will,
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of course, but a lot of them will be
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like, "Are you freaking kidding me? You
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just made me $99,000,
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dude. I want I want whatever you're
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smoking, man. I'm like, "Course, get the
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hell in my business. Let's do
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something." Now, in my case, it's
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usually marketing based, right? Because
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that's what I do. But, um, in your case,
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could be anything. It could be
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implementation, could be newsletters, I
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don't know. Anyway, I'm getting off
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topic here. Um, part four is a call to
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action, which is where you make a
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specific ask. So, no vague stuff like,
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"Would you be interested?" or "Let me
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know your thoughts." Unless you've
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really like planned this out and you've
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thought deeply about it. Um, what you
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really want is you want a specific ask
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with a specific time because most of you
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guys are going to want to do calls. So,
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would you would be open to a 15-minute
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chat? If so, I can give you a ring at
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3:30 p.m. today or before 12:00 p.m.
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tomorrow. That way, there's just one
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step between yes and booked. Think about
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like the loop here. Okay, if I have
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this, you know, let me use this built-in
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thing. That's way easier. So, I send
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person says yes. Okay, I book. That's
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literally like two steps after the
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sending. They just say yes. and then
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immediately after it's like, "Okay, I
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booked them in my calendar." Now,
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contrast that with the way that most
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people do this. What they'll do is
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they'll send and then instead of saying,
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"Hey, can I book at whatever time or
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whatever?" They'll just say like, "Hey,
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like let me know thoughts." You say,
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"Cool." Then it's like you're like, "Oh,
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okay. Well, then can we jump on a call?"
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And they're like, "Sure." And then
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you're like, "Okay, what time?" And then
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they're like, "3 p.m.
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Thursday." And then you're like, "Oh
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[ __ ] I can't actually make that cuz I'm
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picking up my son from soccer practice
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or something." First of all, notice how
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many steps are involved every time that
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you have a step after the reply.
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Obviously, what's happening is you are
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leaking. And so, we're Let me just draw
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it from here. That's a little easier.
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You're actually leaking like 5% on the
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conversion right here. For whatever
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reason, people just aren't going to get
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back to you because, as mentioned in um
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a previous part of this video, people
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have lives and they have a bunch of
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other [ __ ] going on, right? And so,
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basically, every single time you have a
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back and forth, you're leaking like some
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percentage of the funnel. And um if
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you're like an average person and you
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you know an average person trying cold
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email who bangs their head against the
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wall and like oh my god this doesn't
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work. My copyrightiting sucks. Copy is
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so hard. I'm just going to AI do it all
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for me. Oh my god that sucks too.
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Whatever. Like that's that's like 25%
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right? 25% of your whole lead flow aka
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25% of your revenue
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just disappeared. So if you want to make
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25% more revenue, keeping in mind entire
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industries are built on 25%. Just make a
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specific ask. I can give you a ring at
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3:30 p.m. today or before 12:00 p.m.
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tomorrow. And keep in mind as well that
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like a lot of cold email platforms, a
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lot of uh you know templating platforms,
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whether it's SMS linked or whatever, um
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you know, they actually allow you to
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like insert dynamic variables, usually
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using liquid syntax, which is quite
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valuable. All right, so what is the CTA
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here? Well, it's this section right over
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here. Would you be open to a 15-minute
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call if so 3:30 p.m. tomorrow? And then
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I always I personally like signing off
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with something. So this is Peter to
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Nick. This is what that looks like.
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Okay. All right. So close your eyes. Can
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you recite those four steps back to me?
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Pause the damn video and give it a go.
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In case you guys don't remember, it was
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personalization.
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It was who am I and why the hell does it
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matter? It was offer. And then it was
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call to action. If you just say that
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back to yourselves five, 10 times, you
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do the same thing again tomorrow, you'll
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remember this formula for the rest of
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your life. This is very worth doing
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because, as mentioned, this has made me
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and my clients over $15 million. I'm
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sure it's made a lot of other people
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that I don't even know about who watch
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my videos and watch my content or maybe
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the clients of my clients or whatever.
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Way more than that. Just try and nail
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this one because it's very
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straightforward. So, what I want to do
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now is I want to show you the exact same
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thing written with even more cold
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reading. Um, that's pitching a different
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sort of product. Okay. Obviously, the
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previous campaign was like YouTube
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optimization through landing page stuff.
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This one's going to be a little bit
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different. Okay. because this is an
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actual email that I um I rewrote for
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somebody inside of Maker School, which
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is my community where I I teach people
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copyrightiting and stuff like that. And
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uh you know, they asked, "Hey, you know,
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can you fix my email?" And then I took a
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look at it. I was like, "My god, this is
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like trash. So, I really have to help
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this fellow." And his name is Mikuel, I
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think. Um hopefully I'm not butchering
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his name. Really cool guy. And I ended
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up just like doing a video on it. So, I
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figured I'd show it to you guys as well.
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The copy goes, "Hi, Nick. Love the
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channel, man. The anti-hype is very
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refreshing. Honestly, I wanted to run
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something by you." So in our magic hat,
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if I pull out one of the four steps,
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which one is this going to be?
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Obviously, this is going to be
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personalization, right?
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So what am I doing here? Just breaking
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this down psychologically. Again, I'm
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making like a really cold ready
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statement.
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And it's, "Hey, Nick, love the channel,
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man." I'm using some sort of like
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qualifier to make it clear that I'm not
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like some formal, you know, VC reaching
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out to whatever. Like I'm I'm I'm I'm a
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friend, you know? I'm like on your
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level. Most people will use terminology
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like this, most men anyway. Um, and so
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doing this is sort of a way of me
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signaling that I'm in group. The
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anti-hype is very refreshing. A lot of
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people are big on anti-hype. They're
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like, "Well, my videos are anti-hype.
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Everybody else's videos are all hype
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[ __ ] Mine are anti-hype." You send
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this to somebody, you'll do a pretty
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good job.
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Um, the next one is, I wanted to run
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something by you. And this is sort of
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like a bridge term. And I just use some
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bridge term like that so my my email
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doesn't seem disjointed. But you don't
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even need that. You could just like cut
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it out. Okay. So, next up, what you have
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is you have like the who am I and why do
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you give a [ __ ] So, who am I? Well, I
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help retail businesses scale
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acquisition. I just partnered with
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Venshin. It's a retail company around
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the same size as you and generate 85k
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rev in 12 weeks. Venshin is a retail
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company around the same size as you.
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What am I getting from this? I'm getting
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inroup.
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We generated 85k rev in 12 weeks. I I
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missed a Wii here. A wei here would have
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done even better. But anyway, what else
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are we doing? We're signaling that like
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we know what the hell um is up with, you
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know, retail business acquisition. 85k
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revenue in 12 weeks. You know, it's not
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like the craziest amount of money on
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planet Earth, but assuming that you're
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reaching out to small to mid-size
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businesses that make like, you know, a
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couple million dollars a year, nobody's
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going to say no to another like 2530K a
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month, right? That's what we're that's
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what we're offering here. Okay. So, next
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what we have is we actually have a
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really straightforward pitch. And so,
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this is actually kind of like an
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inversion of the call to action um offer
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sequence, but this is really an offer.
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So we're doing is could I do this for
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you too? TLDDR. We're using again casual
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language. I'd fill your calendar with
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high intent sales calls from prospects
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who are generally interested in your
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offer. I do with a scalable cold
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outreach system I build myself.
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And then
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this offer is kind of like this and this
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over here. Okay. It's going to be our
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CTA. Um you know I do it with a scalable
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cold outreach system I built myself. I
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believe in this so strongly I wouldn't
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charge a scent unless it generated more
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than 10k in our first month together. My
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goal is to make this a no-brainer. I
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really think I can benefit company one
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and offer some value up front. What am I
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doing? I'm teasing 85k in 12 weeks,
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which if you just do the math here, like
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that's three months, right? So that's
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about $30,000 a month. 25 to $30,000 a
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month. I'm saying 10K. And I'm assuming
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they're similar size. They might be the
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similar size. I'm they might not be. I
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might just be like making some [ __ ] up.
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If they're around the same size as you,
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a lot of people will think like, okay,
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they've done their research on me, which
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is obviously a positive, and that's one
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of the reasons why I do it. Um, but
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yeah, my goal is to make this a
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no-brainer. Really think I can benefit
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company. you wanted offers value up
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front. This is just like some some
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copyrighting. I'm just trying to make it
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more casual. Would you be able to do a
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50-minute call about this? If so, host
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3:30 p.m. tomorrow, 4 p.m. Tuesday. I
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can send over a Cal invite. If so, just
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GVE me a shout. Thanks, Muel. What's the
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GVE here? That's um just a spelling
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mistake. And you want a spelling mistake
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somewhere in an email. If you're sending
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it at scale, you literally want to have
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like something in your email be like,
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"Oh, that's cute. You know, this fella
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made a mistake." I don't know.
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Generally, I put that at the end after I
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built all of this trust and offer and
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stuff like that. And people are like,
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"Oh, okay." Like, you know, that's fine.
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and they're willing to forgive me. If I
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do it at the beginning, some people are
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just have their heads so far up their
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ass like, "Oh, you don't know how to
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spell your email right? Ridiculous." And
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then they never talk to me again. Go
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read an encyclopedia or something. I
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don't know what they do in their spare
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time. But anyway, the point that I'm
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making is um this follows that formula.
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I would consider this an okay email
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despite the fact that it's pretty long.
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This is I would consider a better email
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because it's shorter, punchier, and has
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more of the things in the in the in the
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sequence that I like. Um but this is
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what I'm going to be doing for a bunch
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of emails later on. I'm literally just
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going to be like roasting them all and
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then covering why they're bad and then
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how you can make them better and
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rewriting them. Okay, so just to recap
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because recapping is how you get things
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stuck in your head. Four steps. The
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first is personalization. The second is
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the who am I and why do I matter. The
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third is the offer and the fourth is the
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call to action. You need all four. Do
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not try bending or breaking the rules
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until you understand them. You know, if
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I write an email, I might screw around
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with this just a little bit because I've
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been there. I've done that. I understand
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that there are some situations that
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don't always fall into the formula. I
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want you guys to know that like 80 to
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90% of all situations will fall within
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the formula. Whether you're pitching
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through some sort of like LinkedIn DM,
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whether you're doing some sort of SMS,
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whether you're literally writing snail
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mail, packaging it, and sending it to
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people alongside some, you know, cute
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little swag box or whatever. All stuff
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that I've done, this formula works
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really well. Let's get on to the next
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part of this course, which is going to
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be me constructing a bunch of different
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offers for you that you can either copy
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and paste or get inspiration from to
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write your own. Okay, so I've already
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alluded a little bit to this before, but
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the way that you construct offers and
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really the way you convert people into
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any sort of outcome with copywriting is
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according to what I will call the offer
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formula. And I want you to know that
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everybody has their own version of the
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offer formula. Any big copyrightiting
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person or I don't know YouTube guru or
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whatever will have what they call their
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offer formula. And it'll probably look a
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little bit different from what I call my
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offer formula. That said, if you're
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watching my course, you should probably
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use my offer formula. And to make it
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really simple, my offer formula is okay.
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Conversion rate is equal to the return
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on investment you can convince somebody
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of times their trust that you can
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actually deliver that return on
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investment divided by the friction
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involved in going through the process of
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uh you know accepting your offer and so
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on and so forth. And so very simple
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formula here. CVR which we can make even
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simpler just a little percentage sign is
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equal to the return on investment times
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the trust divided by friction. Now why
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is this important? Am I actually going
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around calculating you know the the math
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for every single person? Am I like well
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they trust me 0.5 and the return on
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investment is $15,000. The friction is
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one. Therefore the percentage conversion
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rate is 7,500%.
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No obviously not. Uh the reason why we
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use an offer formula like this is just
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so that we can constantly bring our
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awareness to the three prime movers, the
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three things that are actually very very
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important in determining um you know
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whether somebody takes you up on it. And
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I mean realistically there are tiny
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little other features as well that I'm
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not talking about here, but they all
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round to zero. The things that are
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really the most important are just like
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what return on investment can you put in
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front of somebody? What sort of trust
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can you give them that you will deliver
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on your promises? And then how does the
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friction um kind of play into that? So
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I'm just going to restate it up here.
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It's just I'm going to use text so that
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it's a little bit easier to see. We'll
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say percentage is equal to and then I'll
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go return on investment
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times trust that you'll fulfill.
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Okay. And then we'll have a little
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divide sign. And then underneath that,
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which I will draw my little divide sign
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in a second, we'll go friction in
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implementation.
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And I'll put that in brackets, too, just
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because I like when things look nice.
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Okay, so restated, our offer formula is
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what is the return on investment times
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the trust that I'll be able to fulfill
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this divided by the friction and
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actually implementing the offer. Pretty
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straightforward. Let's go through every
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single one of these one by one. So what
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is return on investment really? Okay, in
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our offer formula, return on investment
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is just what sort of result are we
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actually driving? And so an example of a
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result that I'm actually driving might
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be I'll book you 20 meetings in 60 days.
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this is an example of a result. What
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must results be? They must be
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quantified.
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Meaning they must be written in such a
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way that there is no ambiguity. Am I
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saying 19 meetings, 21 meetings? Am I am
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I giving them a range in 30 to 60 days?
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Am I am I giving them I'll book you some
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meetings? I'll book you meetings. These
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are all examples of things I've actually
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seen in copy that has been sent to me or
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copy inside of maker school my
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community. It needs to be abundantly
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clear what it is that they are getting.
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So what is a meeting really? A meeting
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is obviously like a video call with a
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prospect. Okay, if I don't make that
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clear, if it is not clear to my prospect
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what the meeting is. You know, if I just
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say, I'll book you 20 conversations,
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right? What a conversation sort of has a
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different connotation than a meeting,
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right? Most people understand a meeting
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to be what you probably think a meeting
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is where you sit down, you have a call
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with somebody or you know, you visit
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them in their office physically if
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that's the offer that you're running.
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Probably most likely call though.
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Whereas a conversation could be
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anything. It could be like a reply to an
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email. Likewise, if you're selling
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replies, well, then you you write
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replies, okay? You don't write meetings.
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Okay? So, quantified, it has to be
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clear.
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Then perhaps most importantly, it has to
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be time bound. Time bounding is really
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important. Not a lot of people talk
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about it, but um if you don't have some
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sort of like definition of done, you
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won't be able to go to the next part,
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which is the risk mitigation. Like, I'll
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book you 20 meetings. It's like, okay, I
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I'll book you 20 meetings or you won't
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pay a cent hypothetically. It's like,
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okay, so technically speaking, you can
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book me one meeting this year, 19
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meetings in 40 years from now, and you
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will have qualified for the guarantee.
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When the hell do I get my money back,
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man? So, you're going to need some sort
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of like uh time bound. Okay, so very
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simple. We have a result right over
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here. We're going to have some sort of
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time. And both of these together are
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sort of like your return on investment
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math. The next is the trust that you'll
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actually be able to fulfill what it is
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that you are offering. And this is where
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those other things that come before and
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then after, okay, come into play. So
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trust is typically built off rapport.
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Trust is built built off of social
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proof.
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Trust is built off of how much they are
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in your inroup. Okay? How much you can
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demonstrate to them that you are within
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their ingroup.
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And it's also authority. If you're an
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authority figure, you're highly
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credentialed and so on and so forth,
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then the probability that they think
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you'll be able to fulfill what it is
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that you're trying to say is probably
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higher. Like if you're walking down the
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street and then, you know, somebody's
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having a heart attack or something like
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that, you say, "Help, I need a doctor.
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Is anybody here a doctor?" And some guy
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says, "Uh, oh yeah, you know, I did my
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uh, you know, my holistic medicine
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certificate back in 1992." And then some
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other guy's like, "Yes, I'm an emergency
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doctor." you know, it's like which one
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do you trust will be able to fulfill the
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offer in this case, which is potentially
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revive this fella? Probably not like
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some holistic one-year certificate, but
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probably the guy that's, you know,
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trained for god knows how many years and
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currently works in the emergency
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department, right? Likewise, you know,
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if I'm telling somebody, hey, I'll book
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you 20 meetings in 60 days. Okay?
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if they're within my in-group, if if
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they do exactly what it is that I do, if
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I'm familiar with that and it's clear to
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me that they're familiar with that, the
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subject matter of my offer, maybe I'm
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some managed service provider that does
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some specific IT thing, some Linux
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installs on like uh servers and, you
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know, I make it clear that I know how to
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do the same thing. Obviously, I'm going
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to trust that that they'll be able to
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fulfill this more because they're within
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my niche. They they pro they've proven
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themselves to have done this before.
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Likewise, if it's literally like, "Hey,
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by the way, last week I booked 96
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meetings in one week for a managed
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service provider who I've been working
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with for the better part of the last 3
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years. Uh, you know, after starting my
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own managed service provider practice or
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or firm, you know, obviously you have
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tremendous amount of social proof there,
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right? And it's like, oh, okay, they've
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not just delivered this result before,
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they delivered many, many more times
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this result as well." So for instance,
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in a dental campaign that I'm running,
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um you know, our actual offer, the
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quantifiable result that we are willing
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to drive is actually very low compared
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to what we have proven that we can do in
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the past. And we've set this low
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partially because we also have sort of
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like an onboarding cost to this. Um so
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there's some cost per acquisition or
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cost of acquiring a customer math there,
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but also more so we can literally say
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like this is no big deal to us at all.
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like we can we can get 10 new patients
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in your door in the next 30 days for
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like full uh uh you know new patient
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exams NPEs. Uh they'll pay full price.
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Um you know we'll we'll get them in with
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like the lowest possible offer, some
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little toothbrush and and we'll do it
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all for you in the next 30 days from the
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time of this email. By the way, last
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week we generated 109 and it's like oh
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wow okay so 10 in a month versus 109 in
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a week. Like wow you I trust that
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they'll probably be able to fill this
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tiny little pidley thing. So in-group
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authority, social proof and rapport, all
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very important. Okay. So just to clarify
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here, the offer bit is I'll do whatever
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thing for you in whatever time or
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whatever risk mitigation, which I'll
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talk about in a second.
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Okay. The trust that you'll fulfill is
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really built before and after. Um so the
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trust you'll build you are building is
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done in like the social proof section,
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which is a little bit earlier on or you
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know it's done throughout the offer
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simply because you're deciding to put
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your social proof in the same section.
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But regardless, like these are all
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components that you need to have. Okay.
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So, the way that you maximize your
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conversion rate is you deliver a really
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high potential ROI right here with the
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offer. Then you give them a lot of trust
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that you'll be able to fulfill it by
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aligning and rapport, social, proof,
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in-group, and then authority. And then
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finally, that last piece is friction
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implementation.
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This is where you make it really easy
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to start.
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And so, if you think about it, you know,
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I could have the best most amazing offer
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in the world. Maybe it is. you know,
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I'll book you 20 meetings in 60 days for
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um I don't know, like a private equity
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firm. Now, keep in mind, some of these
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companies are willing to pay up to like
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several thousand dollar for a single
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meeting. And it's like, I'll book you 20
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in 2 months and you've had an average of
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like one a month for the last like year.
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It's like, holy [ __ ] you're literally
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going to 20x my pipeline in two months?
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It's like that's worth like $40,000 and
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you're going to do it for me upfront
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guaranteed or I give you all the money
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back? That's wild. Seriously. It's like,
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yeah. Um, the only issue is in order to
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start, you need to give me your
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firstborn son. Well, am I going to want
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to say yes to that offer? I don't know.
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Maybe I don't like my firstborn son.
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Billy, go ahead. Uh, no. I'm obviously
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not going to say yes to that offer,
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right? If I'm like, hey, you know, we'll
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do this for you, but it's going to
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require an intensive 10-hour workshop
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where like we sit you down and walk you
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through how to do all this stuff in your
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business. Technically, despite the fact
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that it's free, it might be free like at
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face value, but I'm still spending in
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terms of my time and my and and my
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energy. And so you're spending the
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friction. And so what you want to do is
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you want to make it really, really easy
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to start. Okay? So the way that you make
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it really easy to start is you say terms
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like,"I'll just need 15 minutes of your
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time over a brief call
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once at the beginning
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somewhere in your email.
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We won't have I can't spell for the life
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of me today. we won't have to talk and
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talk again until I deliver
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all 20 meetings or something like that.
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Okay. All right. And then in addition,
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so this is sort of like
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making it really clear what the time
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and then the extent of involvement is.
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In addition to these two things, you
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also can make it really, really
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straightforward to start by saying
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something like the lines of, "How does
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3:30 p.m. today sound?" I can give you a
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ring at insert number here or
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send you a one-click Google Meet invite.
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These make it really easy to start
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because all I have to do if I'm
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interested is say yes. Then I've
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defaulted into the action path of this
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guy's going to give me a ring, add
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whatever this number is. If the number's
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wrong, it's really easy for me to just
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type in the real number and say, "Okay,
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call me here." If that time doesn't
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work, it's really easy for me to be
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like, "Oh, can you do 4:30?" And if that
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doesn't work, it's or if all of this
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stuff does work, um, I know I'm going to
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get a one-click Google Meet invite,
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right? So, I just say, "Okay, send me
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the invite." And so, there's like
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basically zero friction there. And then
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most importantly of all really okay um
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you know if I don't generate you let's
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say 20 meetings in 60 days you don't pay
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a scent like really a big chunk of the
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friction is like okay so how much money
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is it and it's like oh you don't
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actually have to pay a scent unless I
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achieve you this massive crazy outcome
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and so in this way the risk mitigation
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is a part of minimizing friction so I
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mean you put all that together right and
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I'm not going to include the
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personalization step here but assuming
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you have some sort of like, you know,
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personalization up top. And I'm using
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typical liquid syntax for variables,
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which you'll find very often in cold
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email campaigns and stuff like that
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where you have like these two little um
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uh curly brackets. Okay? It might
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literally be like,
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I'll book you 20 meetings in 60 days or
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you don't pay. It'll take just 15
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minutes of your time over a brief call
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once at the beginning and we won't have
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to talk again until all 20 meetings are
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delivered.
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How does 3:30 p.m. today sound? I can
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give you a ring at insert number here or
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send you a oneclick Google Meet invite.
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To be clear, I am so confident in this
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that if I don't generate you 20 meetings
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in 60 days, you won't pay a cent.
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Thanks.
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Okay, so this right here could actually
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work reasonably well assuming your
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personalization is fine, right? Hey
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Pete, love your channel, man. Big fan of
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X, Y, and Z. I know you mentioned in a
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previous video you wanted to bump up the
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lead genen and as somebody that
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currently works in B2B outbound think I
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have the solution for you. I'll book you
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20 meetings in 60 days or you don't pay.
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I know you're busy so it'll take just 15
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minutes of your time over a brief call
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once at the beginning and we won't even
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have to talk again until all 20 meetings
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are delivered. To be clear, I'm so
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confident in this cuz I do it every day
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that if I don't generate you 20 meetings
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60 days, you won't pay me a scent. How
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does 3:30 p.m. today sound? I can give
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you a ring at 608299-4393
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or I can send you a oneclick Google meet
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invite. Just let me know. Thanks, Nick.
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Dress it up however the heck you want.
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But this is like this is really how you
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tie together the offer with friction
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minimization
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um as well as obviously maximization of
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perceived return on investment with the
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20 meetings 60 days. Okay. And I mean I
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don't just use this formula in offers to
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be clear like I use this exact formula
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here throughout everything. I use it in
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the sales process all the time. you
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know, if I'm having a conversation with
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somebody in sort of a sale context,
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right? It's like a I don't know B2B AI
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growth implementation project, right?
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Which is uh stuff that I do basically at
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least every couple of months now. So my
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whole goal is just to demonstrate a big
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return on investment. It's like, okay,
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so how big is the need that this
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customer has? And when I say need, it's
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like, how much money is this currently
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costing them? And it's like, okay, if I
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can figure that out, then I'm like,
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okay, how much money would they be
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making if I solve this? And so now I
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have both the um direct expense and then
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I also have the opportunity cost. I
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stack those together and it's like,
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"Hey, I can make you 5x that." Now, as a
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business owner, somebody says, "Hey, I
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can make you 500% of your money in 60
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days." You're thinking, "Holy [ __ ]
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that's a wild return on investment. I
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couldn't get that in a million years in
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the freaking S&P 500, but I'm going to
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get 500% in 60 days." That almost sounds
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too good to be true. And then it's like
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the only other two factors that apply,
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okay, once you've established the return
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on investment are like, okay, I mean, if
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this offer is so good, can I trust that
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this man's going to deliver it for me?
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And then like, you know, if this offer
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is so good and I can trust that this man
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will deliver it for me, like what do I
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have to do in order to get started? Like
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chop up my left nut and serve it to him
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on a platter. Pardon my crassness, but
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that's more or less it, right? And so
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that's where the return on investment
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comes in. Um, and it's not just a factor
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of like outbound marketing. It's
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obviously very important in sales.
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That's where the trust that you'll
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fulfill comes in. And it's not just a
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factor in outbound marketing. It's also
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in sales. And that's where the friction
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and the implementation comes in. You
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just always want to make things as easy
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as possible. Whether it is over the
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course of an email, although it is over
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the course of, let's say, like a more
[81:29] (4889.04s)
lengthy sales sort of encounter, whether
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it's a call, whether it's something
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else. Okay, so this is sort of the thing
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that underscores the vast majority of
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what I consider to be successful offers.
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This is the same offer that I currently
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use, same offer formula that I currently
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use in my inbound product, Maker School,
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in case you guys are curious. So, I
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mean, like, uh, I don't know, last
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month, we're probably going to do
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somewhere between 230 to 250,000 in
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Maker School. And the main reason why it
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works so well is because I literally
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have an offer that says you get your
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first paying client in 90 days or your
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money back. Um, this is not just an
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inbound thing. Obviously, like outbound
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is tremendous. This is tremendously
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valuable in outbound, but I also want to
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show you the supplies for inbound. Um,
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you know, I've just been using offers
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since basically day one. And then
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another reason why offers work so well,
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which I'm just going to call final point
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before we talk some more examples and
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whatnot, is offers basically
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3x your top of funnel.
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So if you think about it, we went from
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100% okay to 300% revenue immediately
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at a cost of around 10% of your margin
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because realistically there will be some
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situations which you cannot fulfill the
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offer. And so what we're doing is we're
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going from 300%.
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Think about it 270%. We're taking 10% of
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that off. And so what it is is before
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you have an offer, the math is something
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like, you know, I made 100%. So I'm
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making whatever I'm making now. Then
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after it's like, okay, I'm now making
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270%. And so it's like 2.7x
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total profit. Would you say no to this?
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I wouldn't say no to this. Why not have
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an offer? Why not have a guarantee? I
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mean, it's just free money on the table.
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Sure. I mean, you know, you're going to
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have to put your whatever on the table,
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but that's how you get anything done in
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life. Okay? I'm not going to continue
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trying to convince you to have an offer.
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Obviously, you know, that offers are
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important and something that you need.
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From now on, I think what I'm going to
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do is show you guys how to establish a
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good offer um with this really simple
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example and then just make it more and
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more complicated over time. And then
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I'll just show you like 20 examples.
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Well, maybe not 20. I'll show you guys
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probably between 5 to 10 examples of
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offers you could realistically use.
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Okay. So, what I have next is just a
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giant collection of offers. I'm not
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going to pretend these offers are the
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best. We're going to deconstruct some of
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them side by side. I'll show you guys
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real offers that I've used in my own
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business. Um, leftclick as well as in 1
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second a copy, which I've killed over
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$90,000 a month, as well as a bunch of
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uh big firms that I've worked with that
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have launched. Either the exact same
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offer or a slightly different offer that
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I've obiscated for uh privacy reasons.
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But yeah, I mean, I got I got a ton over
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here. Um, the first is Legion. So, I
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will guarantee you 20 booked sales
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appointments in the next 60 days or you
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don't pay, no strings. Just say yes and
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I'll get started. pretty simple and
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straightforward offer, right? Hopefully
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you guys see how all these components
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come together. To be really clear, the
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way I'm going to do this is uh for
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stroke, I'll have red be the um let's
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just make a little legend over here.
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I'll have this be the outcome and then
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the green over here will be the time and
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then the um let's just do blue over here
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will be the risk mitigation. And this is
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basically going to be like the
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guarantee. Okay? And I want you to I
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want you to know and notice that like
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not everything is going to follow this
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exact structure. And that's okay, right?
[84:44] (5084.72s)
Not everything needs to, but okay, I
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will guarantee you 20 booked sales
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appointments. Okay, so what is the
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outcome here? It's obviously 20 booked
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sales appointments in the next 60 days.
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So the next 60 days, then what is the
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guarantee? Or you don't pay, no strings
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attached. Just say yes, not get started.
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This is obviously something that is
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supposed to reduce friction. Although,
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um, despite the fact that I ran this up
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and I used this to generate over $70,000
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one month, I would not actually
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recommend just Say Yes campaigns as of
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the time of this recording, just because
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I find people are kind of tired of that.
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Okay, here's one for a live chat
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software that a customer of mine was
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selling. I'll build a worldclass live
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chat widget on your website. So, what is
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the outcome? I'll build a worldclass
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live chat widget on your website. Okay?
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And there's actually more to this than
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that. At no cost. I won't charge you
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anything until you get your first 10
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paying clients.
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So, notice how we're deviating from the
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simple sort of oneline thing and we're
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actually sort of splitting our offer now
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into two outcomes. The first the the
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real outcome is the 10 first paying
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clients, right? But we're going to do
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that through a world-class live chat
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widget. So, if you think about what are
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they getting? They're getting both the
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10 paying clients. They're also getting
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the worldclass live chat widget. You
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know what else is as well? Despite the
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fact that I pressed on time so much, um
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this doesn't actually have a time. Why?
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because it's sort of like
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self-liquidating. I won't charge you
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anything until you get your first 10
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paying clients. Making this completely
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risk-free. So, is I won't charge you
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anything until you get your first 10
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paying clients. Realistically here, the
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reason why we don't need a time is
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because we're not actually charging them
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anything. When we get them the outcome,
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which ideally we want to do really
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quick, we we charge them. But that's how
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that business model works, right? Which
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is quite different from, you know, this
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very standard one that you saw up here.
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Okay? And this is like quite a different
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one. The rest of them them are going to
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be quite more templated, but still I
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wanted to show you just how wild these
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things can get. What's the outcome?
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First of all, no cost and then
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completely risk-free. And I won't charge
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you anything. So to be clear, it's free.
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It's free and then it's risk- free.
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We're just making it really really clear
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and we're sort of driving it home. Okay,
[86:49] (5209.76s)
cool. Proposal system. I will build you
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the same high converting proposal
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template that's made company for 5 mil
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in the last 2 months. I'll do all the
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work up front. Only if you like it,
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we'll ask you to work with me. just say
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yes and I'll send you yours within 48
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hours. So hopefully this is pretty
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clear. Instead of selling some sort of
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like revenue based outcome, what we're
[87:04] (5224.24s)
doing now is we're selling um we're
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giving them a product. And so the
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product in this case is the same high
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converting proposal template that's made
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company over five on the last two
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months. Ideally company is like a
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recognizable company that they would
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know. And so in our case it was like a
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company that was in the niche that
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you'll be reaching out to. So basically
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everybody knew where the company was.
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That's why it's actually valuable. Um,
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and then what what else are we doing
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here for time? Okay, the last two months
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is not the time. What the time is is
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within 48 hours. And then the way that
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the offer works here is I'll do all the
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work up front. Meaning that you don't
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need to do anything and only if you like
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it will I ask you to work with me. And
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so what are we doing here now? We're
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basically doing like a variant of like a
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satisfaction guarantee offer. We're just
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not pitching it as like satisfaction
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guaranteed. You know, basically what
[87:49] (5269.44s)
we're doing is we're saying we're just
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going to do this thing for you
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completely for free. do it all up front
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and only if you like it will I actually
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ask you to pay me. Just say yes and I'll
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send you yours within 48 hours. They ask
[87:57] (5277.76s)
you to work with me here. It's doing
[87:58] (5278.88s)
some heavy lifting but it's really just
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like pay me, right? Okay. How about SEO
[88:02] (5282.72s)
audit? I mean like very few people are
[88:04] (5284.64s)
doing SEO audits now. But just to be
[88:06] (5286.40s)
clear, you can I'll run a full SEO audit
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on your site. Show you exactly which
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pages are losing you traffic completely
[88:11] (5291.20s)
free. Okay. So I'll run a full SEO audit
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on your site and show you exactly which
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pages are losing you traffic.
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The time is over here. Just say yes. I
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I'll have it in your inbox within 24
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hours. Sorry, I meant uh green here. And
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then blue is completely free. Okay,
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let's check out this one. This is a
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little bit more standardized. I'll build
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you a Google Ads campaign. So, what are
[88:37] (5317.20s)
they going to get? A Google Ads campaign
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that I guarantee will generate 50
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qualified leads. 50 qualified leads in
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30 days. You don't pay a scent. Just say
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yes and I'll get it live this week. So
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the outcome is obviously the Google Ads
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campaign. Okay. What is the time? It's
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the 30 days. Okay. Or you don't pay a
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scent is basically it's going to be free
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unless we achieve this outcome. Just say
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yes and I'll get a live this week. And
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then also from like a time perspect I
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got to be able to like hotkey this stuff
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cuz it's starting to get annoying. Um is
[89:03] (5343.36s)
going to be right over here. Content
[89:05] (5345.44s)
writing. This is a real offer I ran for
[89:06] (5346.88s)
one second copy. It was integral in
[89:08] (5348.40s)
scaling us to92 $2,000 a month. Just
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send us a title, okay? And we'll give
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you a completely free 500word blog post
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on the topic. No strings attached. Oh,
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little bit different format, right? What
[89:16] (5356.88s)
are they getting? Completely free. Well,
[89:19] (5359.12s)
really what they're getting is they're
[89:20] (5360.00s)
getting a 500word blog post on the topic
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that they send. Okay. The time period,
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and I think I might have actually taken
[89:26] (5366.64s)
this time period out, would be something
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like in 48 hours. So, let's not just
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change everything, please. We'll go
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green. And what exactly is the
[89:35] (5375.92s)
guarantee? Well, the guarantee is that
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it's completely free and all you have to
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do is send us a title, which is a
[89:40] (5380.56s)
friction minimization framework. Okay,
[89:42] (5382.72s)
let's keep grinding this out. CRM. I
[89:44] (5384.80s)
will build you a worldclass industry CRM
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at no cost. I'll pay for it all myself.
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Do all the work up front and only if you
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like it will I ask you to work with me.
[89:51] (5391.44s)
Just say yes and I'll send you a link
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within 48 hours. I will build you a
[89:54] (5394.00s)
worldclass industry CRM at no cost. This
[89:55] (5395.92s)
is the outcome, right? I will build you
[89:57] (5397.84s)
this. You can also sort of make this the
[90:01] (5401.20s)
outcome if you want. You know, the fact
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that I'm paying for it myself, although
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obviously I'm not actually paying that
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much money because I have infrastructure
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to take care of it. What's the time
[90:08] (5408.56s)
period here? Time period is within 48
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hours. And then what exactly is the
[90:12] (5412.40s)
guarantee? I guarantee I'll pay for it
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all myself. I'll do all the work up
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front and only if you like it will I ask
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you to work with me. You guys see how
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these are all following similar sorts of
[90:20] (5420.96s)
structures despite the fact that some of
[90:22] (5422.56s)
their guarantees and some of their
[90:24] (5424.48s)
outcomes and times are all over the
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place. Okay, this is a campaign I ran
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for uh one of the dental companies that
[90:29] (5429.36s)
I used to work with. I'll give you a
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completely free entry into program which
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will let you fulfill your 20 CME credit
[90:33] (5433.68s)
requirement at no cost. Just say yes and
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we'll send over a private invite link.
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Okay, I'll give you completely free
[90:38] (5438.48s)
entry into program. Now I um you know I
[90:42] (5442.48s)
took out the actual program itself but
[90:44] (5444.08s)
this program like has a time right so
[90:45] (5445.92s)
this program is specifically only taking
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place at whatever time period and they
[90:49] (5449.12s)
they know it because it's like a program
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that's relatively common or popular in
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the industry. So, um, despite the fact
[90:54] (5454.64s)
that you can't see a time here, this is
[90:56] (5456.00s)
sort of, uh, sorry, green. Um, this is
[90:58] (5458.16s)
also a time. And then really, what's the
[91:00] (5460.80s)
guarantee? It's no cost. Just say yes,
[91:02] (5462.56s)
I'll send a private invite link, which
[91:05] (5465.12s)
to be clear is another thing that
[91:06] (5466.24s)
they're getting. And I try and be really
[91:07] (5467.44s)
granular with this stuff, right? Like
[91:08] (5468.72s)
people wouldn't consider this a
[91:09] (5469.76s)
deliverable, but my deliverable is it's
[91:11] (5471.28s)
a private invite link and free entry
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into a program, which will let you
[91:14] (5474.48s)
fulfill your 20 CME credit requirement
[91:16] (5476.00s)
at no cost. Some people have to spend a
[91:17] (5477.84s)
fair amount of money to like sign up to
[91:19] (5479.20s)
courses and stuff and do that, right? We
[91:20] (5480.32s)
can now do that for you for free. Okay,
[91:22] (5482.80s)
email marketing. Send me your last three
[91:24] (5484.32s)
email campaigns. I will rewrite them for
[91:26] (5486.48s)
free. Plus, I'll show you exactly why
[91:28] (5488.64s)
the new versions will convert better. No
[91:31] (5491.28s)
strings. Okay, this is free. So, the
[91:34] (5494.64s)
guarantee is sort of um intertwined with
[91:36] (5496.96s)
that. And it's one of those selfi
[91:38] (5498.72s)
liquidating offers where it's free, so I
[91:41] (5501.28s)
don't make money until they ultimately
[91:43] (5503.20s)
do the thing that I want them to do. And
[91:45] (5505.52s)
so, we do have some friction here on the
[91:46] (5506.96s)
send me three last email campaigns. No
[91:49] (5509.36s)
strings, though. just jumping around a
[91:50] (5510.72s)
bit because I don't want to do all of
[91:51] (5511.92s)
them obviously, but this web design one
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can be pretty good. I'll redesign your
[91:54] (5514.80s)
homepage for free. What are we doing?
[91:57] (5517.44s)
Well, we're sending them a mockup within
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72 hours and they only pay if they
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absolutely love it. Alternatively, we
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could say you only pay if you get 5%
[92:05] (5525.92s)
higher or more CVR. Okay, if our CRO
[92:09] (5529.12s)
works. So, if it's not super clear here,
[92:11] (5531.52s)
it is I will do X thing for you in Y
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time. Okay? or Z risk mitigation. Okay,
[92:22] (5542.80s)
so this is the outcome.
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This was the time.
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Then this over here was the basically
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like your guarantee,
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your like risk reversal
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etc. It becomes pretty clear and obvious
[92:39] (5559.36s)
how formulas like this work when you get
[92:41] (5561.36s)
hit over the head enough times with
[92:42] (5562.64s)
them. And I'm not going to go through
[92:44] (5564.32s)
the other 30 or 40 over there.
[92:45] (5565.92s)
Obviously, there's no need to. But
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hopefully you guys see that all we're
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really doing is we're just playing
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around with this theme. The most
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important thing I've come to realize
[92:52] (5572.24s)
with cold email and stuff is most people
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believe that you have to like just use
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pre-existing super high quality winning
[92:58] (5578.88s)
email templates. And I mean like email
[93:01] (5581.36s)
templates make your life easier for
[93:02] (5582.48s)
sure. They definitely do. Don't get me
[93:03] (5583.60s)
wrong. But you don't need the template.
[93:06] (5586.24s)
What you need is you just need this
[93:07] (5587.52s)
system. Because a template that you use
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once may work for like a week or two
[93:12] (5592.96s)
weeks or a month or a year or whatever,
[93:14] (5594.80s)
but eventually it'll stop working
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because that's just how the market
[93:17] (5597.28s)
works. But a system has a much much
[93:20] (5600.48s)
longer lifespan. If you use a template,
[93:23] (5603.60s)
okay, this is a famous NYX graph coming
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at you. You know, if this is how well it
[93:28] (5608.64s)
works and then this is time and this is
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the letter C because I didn't spell
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success right. The way that a template,
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which I will do in red here, works
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is, you know, you'll start using it,
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it'll work really well, and then it'll
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stop working really well. And that's
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just because the market will get used to
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that template.
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The way a system works is a system
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basically belines it up and then works
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really, really well for a really long
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time. Why? Because a system can produce
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a million different templates. And
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because as long as you're constantly
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iterating on the templates themselves
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and you know you can apply a little bit
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of your human reasoning to it or even AI
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reasoning which we'll talk a little bit
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about later. Um you can do really really
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cool things. You can use these systems
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to produce templates that basically
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nobody else would have thought that you
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know you could you could produce. And so
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all I really did to create a big you
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know list of winning campaigns
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um was I didn't just like copy
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templates. I learned the underlying
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system and then I could produce any
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template. And that's the difference
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between, you know, strategies and
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tactics.
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You know, everybody loves these because,
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oh my god, you know, here's a free lead
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magnet which shows you exactly what I
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sent to make $50,000. It's like, oh my
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god, I could just send that make
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$50,000. But tactics don't work anywhere
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near as the higher level strategy. The
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strategy is the system. The tactic is
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the template. And as we know that the
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templates don't work. So focus more on
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like higher level strategy. If you
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understand this, if you understand the
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strategy, you can understand any
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template. Okay, now that hopefully you
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guys understand how offers work and you
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know what's kind of going on under the
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hood there. Let me show you guys how I
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would apply all of this to fix up a ton
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of mid to terrible cold email campaigns.
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Okay, so I've gone ahead and scrolled
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through my email inbox and then
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generated a big list of a bunch of
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different cold emails that I've
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received. I think I'm going to keep this
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section here to cold emails just cuz
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it's pretty simple and straightforward
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um you know to do the same format over
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again. But I want you to know everything
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I'm going to talk about with you guys
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now is going to equally apply to like
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the SMS section, the uh LinkedIn section
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and so on and so forth. Okay. Okay. So
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there are multiple things that you can
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use to assess an email. The first is you
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know like the name. So Maria for
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instance. The second is obviously the um
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subject line. So loved your fastcast
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strategy. The third is the messages that
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come in. So hey Nick, totally understand
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these bigger pivots sound exciting. And
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so on and so on and so on and so forth.
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And so I just want you guys to know like
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as I'm roasting these emails and then
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rewriting them, you guys can improve the
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quality of your outbound emails in three
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ways. Um by improving the subject line
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and the sender, by improving the title,
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by improving the uh sender, by improving
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the subject line, and then also
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improving this teaser, which tends to be
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I don't know like if we counted this up
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character wise, how many is that? Is
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that about 100 or so? You know, some
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other ones have longer ones, right? But
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um this is probably somewhere around 100
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or so. So, if you guys can get your
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first 100 characters down to a place
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where it's pretty good, then kudos and
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awesome for you. All right, let's start
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with the very first one here from this
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fellow car Charlie Crabtree, which is
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pretty cool. And what I'll do is I'll
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just open up a Google doc. And inside of
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the Google doc, I'm going to have like
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the old copy and then the new one. And
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then I'll just supply this as basically
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like a part of, you know, this course
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that you guys can use to go through. And
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so, we'll call this cold email roasts
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before and then after. And then what I'm
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going to do first is I'm just going to
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copy in Charlie's email. First I'm say
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quick question Nick paste this in. Why
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don't we just make this an H3 which is a
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heading three to make it clear this is
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the subject. Okay great. So first things
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first um you know we do have to assess
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it based off using our fourstep
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copyrightiting formula, right? Is this
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like something that follows our four
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steps? What you'll find actually is like
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a lot of the time they do. Um and I
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think this one basically almost does.
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Let's take a peek. I think to make this
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way easier, I'm actually just going to
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put up all of these and then actually
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have the copy right over here. I think
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that makes more sense. Let me just zoom
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in so you guys could see it. Okay, so
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now that I've reset this up, basically
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the way I'm going to assess these emails
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is I'm going to assess them based off of
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these principles of why people would say
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yes to a message from a stranger. And
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then after I've assessed it, I'm just
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going to go through and then I'm going
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to rewrite the email according to like
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my four-step copyrightiting framework.
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And you guys could see how we could take
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this and then, you know, ideally make it
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better. But I do want you guys to know
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that like I can't test this against the
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original cuz I don't I'm not like the
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one who sent the original. So ideally
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anytime you have a hypothesis about
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whether or not something would work, you
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wouldn't just like think that it would
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work and it wouldn't just sound nice.
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You'd actually go and need to send it,
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right? There may be a situation here
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where one of the emails that um you know
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I rewrote might actually perform worse,
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right? There's just no way to know with
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the market. Uh I'm quite confident in my
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abilities, so I don't think that would
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happen. I'm pretty confident I'd
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realistically absolutely crush every
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single one of the emails that I uh I'm
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seeing here. But still, you know, the
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recommendation and and my take on it is
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always just like, don't listen to your
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opinions. Listen to what the market
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tells you. Okay. All right. So, the
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email itself is quick question, Nick.
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Nice. So, they got my name. Hi, Nick. I
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know you reach 290K months solo in the
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school games. Very cool. Maker School
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provides incredible value, but it could
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offer even more. Imagine if your members
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had 24/7 access to you, acting as their
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personal mentor, always ready to help.
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This is now a reality. I build custom
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AIs for school communities that provide
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hands-on training and exclusivity. It
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has trained specifically in your
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resources and on your unique voice.
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Happy to show you how it works over a 15
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casual 15-minute video call. How does
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Thursday 10 a.m. sound best, Charlie?
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Well, Charlie, I'm not seeing anything
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here that tells me that you are giving.
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What are you giving me? A casual
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15-minute video call. Is that really you
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giving me something? I don't think
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that's you giving me something. That's
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you taking something away from me.
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You've taken away 15 minutes. It's nice
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that you build custom AIs for school
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communities and whatnot, but why is that
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relevant to me? I'm not seeing any sort
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of realistic value here. Um, you're
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making me do a lot of like mental work
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in order to come to the conclusion that
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this thing is beneficial for me myself.
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Be much clearer and easier if you just
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let me know that this has made money in
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the past because ultimately as a
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business owner, what would I give a [ __ ]
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about money? So anyway, uh, he's not
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giving first, so I'm not getting any
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value there, right? Uh, micro
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commitments. Is he starting with a small
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ass scaling up naturally? I mean, yeah,
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he's he's doing a 15-minute video call,
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so that's pretty good.
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Actually,
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I'm going to make this an X. What the
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heck am I doing? So, he didn't do give
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first. He did do micro commitments. And
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um how's he doing on social proof? Does
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he show specific name numbered results?
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Not really. I mean, there's me, but
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that's not social proof. Authority. Any
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authority here? No, I'm not seeing any
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authority. How about rapport? I mean,
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he's using language like very cool.
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Casual 15-minute video call. I'd say,
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you know, rapport is like okay, but
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there's no shared context or anything
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like that. though scarcity create
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legitimate urgency with real capacity
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time constraints. Okay, I'm not seeing
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anything here that would make me feel
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scarce. You know, he's almost getting to
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it here where he's saying Maker School
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provides incredible value, but it could
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offer even more. Imagine if your members
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have 24/7 access to you acting as their
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personal mentor always ready to help. I
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think this could have been a good angle
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where he would have essentially pitched
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me on the fact that I only have so much
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time and you know there are a bunch of
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other communities that are growing
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shared identity. Has he established any
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common ground, same industry challenge
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values? No. So, I mean, like just
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looking at this kind of quantifiably,
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he's done basically I would score this
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like a one out of seven. I would
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consider this to be a pretty shitty
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email. And I don't say that to
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absolutely hurt your feelings, Charlie,
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whoever you are, you handsome,
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presumably handsome gentleman. I just
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think you could have done a a much
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better job. Okay, so why don't I show
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you guys how it works? I'm not going to
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touch the subject cuz I think the
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subject's fine. Like, quick question,
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quick cue, 290K a month solo, whatever.
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Like, you know, that's fine. But let's
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rewrite this. Hi, Nick. I know you
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reached 29K a month solo in the school
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game. Very cool. This is this is okay,
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you know, like I think there's some
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realistically like some grammar that
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he's missing.
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But imagine if instead, okay, you
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segmented your audience and you knew
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that you were talking to men, which is
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fairly straightforward to do with some
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filtering. So huge work on the 290K
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and I'll say around,
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you know, maybe greater than 290K a
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month
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solo, man. school games. We're lucky to
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have you. Okay, so that's going to be my
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personalization, which is step one out
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of four. Next up, you know, we've
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answered the question, is this person a
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spammer? If they're saying huge work on
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the 290K month solo manual games, we're
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lucky to have you. Odds are probably not
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a spammer. So, the next question is, who
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the hell is this guy? Right? So, here
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we'd probably rewrite instead of this is
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now a reality. I would just cut straight
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to the chase. I
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build custom AIS for school communities
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that provide hands-on training. And I
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think what he's really wanting to do is
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probably just build custom AI coaches.
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That's probably the simplest way to say
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what it is he's trying to go for. So I
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build custom AI coaches for school
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communities. Here we're going to need
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some social proof. I work with
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a few of the top 20 right now, assuming
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that he is. Maybe he isn't, in which
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case we wouldn't be able to use this
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obviously, but we do need some sort of
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social proof.
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collectively over $500,000 a month in
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revenue and train
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them specifically on your resources and
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unique voice. Through this, we've
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managed to save over 20 hours per week
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of coach time, which as I'm sure you can
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imagine, stacks up quite a bit. Okay,
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great. So, what are we doing here? We're
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doing two things. We are quantifying
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what the social proof is. Okay, so we're
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turning that X into a yes. And uh now
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we're also um making it really clear
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what the value is. Okay, the return on
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investment is here. 20 hours per week of
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coach time, which I'm sure you imagine
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stacks up quite a bit. Now what we need
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to do is we need to imply, okay, that we
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can do this for them. I'm very
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I am confident I could save you a
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tremendous amount of time with your
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school community.
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modest amount of time on your let's just
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working on your school.
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Your group is basically perfect for this
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and there is undoubtedly a lot of heavy
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lifting
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you're doing right now that I think you
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don't have to be. What am I doing? I'm
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using casual language here and I'm
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hedging to make it seem as if I actually
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know who this person is despite the fact
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that I'm just sending a mass template.
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And now it's time for uh the offer.
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Okay. Can I put my money where my mouth
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is? Could I build you an AI coach in the
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next 7 days?
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And if it doesn't save you, you know, 5
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hours per week or more, maybe I want to
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put my money where my mouth is.
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Will you let me build you an AI coach in
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the next 7 days? And if it doesn't save
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you 5 hours per week or more, a high
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quality AI coach in the next 7 days,
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100% in your tone of voice. If it
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doesn't save you 5 hours per week or
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four, you wouldn't pay a scent. You
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wouldn't have to do anything to get
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started other than just send me an
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invite to your school. I'll handle all
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of the rest in the background.
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Let me know if this is worth your time.
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If so, could show you how it works over
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a casual 15-minute video call.
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Can call can ring you. I don't want to
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use call twice.
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10:00 a.m. today or Thursday?
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Best Charlie. Okay, so let's just reread
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the before and then the after. Hey Nick,
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I know you reached 29K a month still in
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school games. Very cool. Maker School
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provides incredible value, but it could
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offer even more. Imagine if your members
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had 24/7 access to you, acting as their
[105:04] (6304.40s)
personal mentor, always ready to help.
[105:05] (6305.92s)
This is now a reality. I build custom
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ads for school communities that provide
[105:08] (6308.40s)
hands-on training and exclusivity. The
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as trans specifically in your resources
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and unique voice. Happy to show you how
[105:12] (6312.72s)
it works over a casual 15-minute video
[105:14] (6314.32s)
call. How does Thursday 10 a.m. sound?
[105:15] (6315.84s)
Best Charlie. This one here is from
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Ultra Ego Charlie, the AI coach version
[105:20] (6320.32s)
of Charlie. Uh, and it's a lot more
[105:22] (6322.16s)
personalized. Hi, Nick. Huge work on the
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290K month solo, man. School games were
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lucky to have you. I build custom AI
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coaches for school communities. I work
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with a few of the top 20 right now,
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collectively over 500k month in Rev, and
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train them specifically in your
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resources and unique voice. Through
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this, we managed to save over 20 hours
[105:35] (6335.36s)
per week of coach time, which I'm sure
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you can imagine stacks up quite a bit.
[105:38] (6338.24s)
I'm confident I could save you a
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tremendous amount of time working on
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your school. Your grip is basically
[105:41] (6341.52s)
perfect for this, and there's
[105:42] (6342.24s)
undoubtedly a lot of heavy lifting
[105:43] (6343.28s)
you're doing right now that I think you
[105:44] (6344.32s)
don't have to be. This is all cold
[105:45] (6345.44s)
reading. I want to put my money where my
[105:47] (6347.28s)
mouth is. Will you let me build you a
[105:48] (6348.80s)
high-quality AI coach in the next 7
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days, 100% your tone of voice? If it
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doesn't save you 5 hours per week or
[105:53] (6353.44s)
more, you wouldn't pay a scent. You
[105:54] (6354.64s)
wouldn't have to do anything to get the
[105:55] (6355.68s)
starter other than just send me an
[105:56] (6356.64s)
invite to your school. I'll add all the
[105:57] (6357.84s)
rest in the background. Let me know this
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is worth your time. If so, could show
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you how it works or a casual 15-minute
[106:01] (6361.92s)
video call can ring you 10 a.m. uh today
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or Thursday and then maybe we'll sign it
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off with a thanks man. You'll see this
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sort of casual qualification is really
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important. Now, I'm I'm a I'm a man that
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sends to other men for the most part,
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right? Um if you are a woman sending to
[106:14] (6374.48s)
a bunch of other women to try and sell
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them something and even if it's even
[106:17] (6377.28s)
tangentially related to, I don't know,
[106:19] (6379.04s)
femininity or something like that, you
[106:20] (6380.24s)
know, you could absolutely use language
[106:21] (6381.52s)
like, "Yo, girl, hey girl, stuff like
[106:23] (6383.52s)
that." And uh that it would it would
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crush as well. But okay, this is the
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before and after. And hopefully you guys
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see just how easy it is to take
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something that is kind of mid and then
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just apply the four-step copyrightiting
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framework to turn it into something that
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probably a lot better. So, I think what
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I'll do here just because I want to be
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able to like run this every single time,
[106:43] (6403.76s)
I'm just going to move this over here.
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Then I'll delete all these. And now you
[106:47] (6407.60s)
can see, are we giving? Yes, we're
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giving. Why? Because we're offering to
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build them a high quality AI coach. So,
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that right there, my friends, is what we
[106:55] (6415.20s)
call a check mark. Uh, are we asking for
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micro commitments, casual 15-minute
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call? Absolutely. Are we presenting some
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sort of social proof? Absolutely. Are we
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demonstrating authority? Yes, I work
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with a few of the top 20 right now. Are
[107:06] (6426.80s)
we generating rapport? Okay, school
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games. We're lucky to have you. This is
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very casual. It's very real. Yes. Um,
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are we building some sort of scarcity?
[107:14] (6434.16s)
Well, what we're doing really is we're
[107:15] (6435.84s)
suggesting that this person, myself, is
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is spending a tremendous amount of time
[107:19] (6439.68s)
working on my school. There's
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undoubtedly a lot of heavy lifting
[107:22] (6442.08s)
you're doing right now that I don't
[107:22] (6442.96s)
think you have to be. This isn't really
[107:24] (6444.40s)
direct scarcity necessarily. What we're
[107:26] (6446.48s)
doing is we're basically saying, "Hey
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man, you only have a certain amount of
[107:28] (6448.56s)
time in your day. You're pissing it away
[107:30] (6450.16s)
right now and we could fix it with this
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system." So, I mean, I probably could
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have done a little bit better creating
[107:34] (6454.40s)
some sort of legitimate urgency. Um, but
[107:36] (6456.72s)
this is still all right. Shared
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identity, establishing common ground,
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same industry, absolutely with school,
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same challenge, same values, 100%. Um,
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so I mean like I'm not going to just
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grade myself and give myself 100%. And I
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think I did okay. Probably like an 80%
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or so in, you know, 2 minutes. But, um,
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yeah, much better on all fronts. Next
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email from Imran over here. You see a
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major problem is this email tracked with
[107:57] (6477.52s)
Mailswuite because he's adding this to
[107:59] (6479.92s)
his email to pitch me. We're not even
[108:02] (6482.16s)
getting into what what he's actually
[108:03] (6483.44s)
pitching me. Um, you know, I'm
[108:05] (6485.36s)
immediately thinking, okay, this guy
[108:06] (6486.72s)
just sending me some spam email, right?
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His subject line is the word thumbnail
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approach
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and it says, "Hi, Nicks arrive daily
[108:16] (6496.16s)
updates. I'm Imran Jame. I was checking
[108:18] (6498.72s)
your YouTube channel and watch a few
[108:19] (6499.84s)
your videos. The content's very
[108:21] (6501.04s)
informative. I noticed the thumbnails
[108:22] (6502.64s)
are decent, but I feel they could be
[108:23] (6503.84s)
more eye-catching, get higher clicks.
[108:25] (6505.60s)
So, I'm a thumbnail designer. If you
[108:26] (6506.96s)
want, I can make one upgraded thumbnail
[108:28] (6508.32s)
for your next video for free. No
[108:29] (6509.84s)
pressure at all. Just tell me the topic
[108:31] (6511.36s)
of your next video and I'll handle it.
[108:32] (6512.88s)
Thanks for your time." Then he has his
[108:34] (6514.72s)
uh, you know, little signature down
[108:35] (6515.92s)
here. Where is it? Oh, even it doesn't
[108:38] (6518.40s)
even have a signature down here.
[108:39] (6519.36s)
Actually, it doesn't even say Amar on.
[108:40] (6520.40s)
It just uh says email tracked with
[108:41] (6521.92s)
Mailswuite. Thanks for your time,
[108:43] (6523.84s)
Mailswuite. Okay, so why why don't you
[108:46] (6526.32s)
use things like Mailswuite? Um you you
[108:48] (6528.56s)
can use them. I just wouldn't ever have
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an opt out on my email. Some people are
[108:52] (6532.40s)
like really, you know, riskaverse and
[108:54] (6534.32s)
stuff like that and they think they need
[108:55] (6535.28s)
to put optouts in every email. I can
[108:56] (6536.80s)
understand why, but uh if you're getting
[108:58] (6538.24s)
information from LinkedIn, in my humble
[108:59] (6539.68s)
opinion, that's legitimate B2B coms and
[109:01] (6541.36s)
I'm not really worried about stuff like
[109:02] (6542.48s)
that. So anyway, the big tell for me is
[109:05] (6545.04s)
honestly just cutting that out. Um what
[109:06] (6546.72s)
are some other horrific aspects of this
[109:08] (6548.80s)
email? Um that he's falling prey to like
[109:11] (6551.12s)
one of the big issues with templated um
[109:13] (6553.68s)
you know copy paste variables which is
[109:15] (6555.20s)
just like when he scrapes my YouTube
[109:16] (6556.80s)
name it says Nick's drive daily updates.
[109:19] (6559.20s)
So this probably works for like more
[109:21] (6561.20s)
than 50% of them because more than 50%
[109:23] (6563.76s)
of the people he's pitching sorry
[109:24] (6564.96s)
because they're probably like name their
[109:26] (6566.96s)
names right like my main channel this
[109:28] (6568.72s)
would have worked. Hi Nick, right? Still
[109:31] (6571.04s)
the last name's kind of weird, but hi
[109:32] (6572.32s)
Nick Sarif is better than hi Nick daily
[109:34] (6574.00s)
updates, but hi Nick daily updates. It's
[109:36] (6576.64s)
like my name isn't Nick Daily updates.
[109:38] (6578.40s)
My name is Nick. And you would know this
[109:39] (6579.60s)
immediately if you watched 30 seconds of
[109:41] (6581.20s)
my content. Hell, if you even just like
[109:42] (6582.40s)
made it to my page, right? You'd also
[109:44] (6584.40s)
know it if you built a better scraping
[109:45] (6585.76s)
system. Another issue here is the fact
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that he put the comma before the name.
[109:48] (6588.80s)
That just seems weird and it makes my
[109:50] (6590.24s)
name seem templated. Okay, next up. I'm
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Imran J. I mean, like, kudos to you for
[109:55] (6595.20s)
announcing yourself, buddy, but like, it
[109:57] (6597.60s)
says it right here. Why do I need to
[109:59] (6599.44s)
read it here and then read it right down
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here? Do I really need the same thing?
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You're just wasting my freaking time and
[110:03] (6603.84s)
characters. I was watching your YouTube
[110:05] (6605.28s)
channel and watched a few videos. The
[110:06] (6606.64s)
content is very informative. So, I was
[110:08] (6608.48s)
checking a YouTube video, watch a few of
[110:09] (6609.76s)
your videos. Like, personally, I just
[110:10] (6610.96s)
think this is way too long for what it
[110:12] (6612.08s)
is. Like, you could have just said, I
[110:13] (6613.12s)
watched a few videos, right? Same thing.
[110:14] (6614.48s)
The content is very informative. Nice
[110:16] (6616.08s)
try on the cold reading, so that's good.
[110:18] (6618.24s)
You know, the guy's trying to like make
[110:19] (6619.36s)
generalized statements that would apply
[110:20] (6620.56s)
to me, and that's awesome. I notice the
[110:22] (6622.48s)
thumbnails are decent, so he's
[110:23] (6623.60s)
pretending to have seen my thumbnails
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and I can respect a hustler when I see
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one, but I feel they could be more
[110:27] (6627.76s)
eye-catching to get higher clicks. Same
[110:30] (6630.00s)
thing, right? The reality is like all
[110:32] (6632.64s)
YouTubers will probably think so. So,
[110:35] (6635.04s)
your content's really informative and
[110:36] (6636.40s)
your thumbnails are decent, but I
[110:37] (6637.76s)
thought they could be more eye-catching
[110:39] (6639.04s)
and get more clicks. Most people are
[110:40] (6640.32s)
going to be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] my
[110:41] (6641.36s)
content is decent and man, this guy must
[110:43] (6643.68s)
have clearly watched my shit." Um, you
[110:46] (6646.32s)
know, like assuming there weren't other
[110:47] (6647.76s)
issues in the email, I'd probably think
[110:48] (6648.96s)
that. Okay, I'm a thumbnail designer. If
[110:51] (6651.36s)
you want, I can make one upgrade a
[110:52] (6652.48s)
thumbnail for your next video for free.
[110:53] (6653.68s)
No pressure at all. So, I mean, it's
[110:55] (6655.60s)
good. He's he's giving me something for
[110:56] (6656.80s)
free here. But, I mean, I'm a thumbnail
[110:58] (6658.72s)
designer. Is that really the best you
[111:00] (6660.08s)
could do? Really? Is there anything else
[111:03] (6663.52s)
that you could say? I want you to know
[111:05] (6665.20s)
that who you are is not like the the the
[111:07] (6667.12s)
the work that you do. Okay. Who you are
[111:10] (6670.80s)
and why it matters are the people that
[111:12] (6672.40s)
you've worked with in the past and the
[111:13] (6673.76s)
social proof and authority that you
[111:15] (6675.04s)
could claim to your name. So, I'm a
[111:17] (6677.12s)
thumbnail designer is weak as hell. No
[111:19] (6679.20s)
pressure at all. Just tell me the topic
[111:20] (6680.24s)
of your next video. handle it. What are
[111:21] (6681.60s)
we What are we missing here? We're
[111:22] (6682.64s)
missing a time constraint. Thanks for
[111:24] (6684.56s)
your time, Mail. Sweet. Okay, so if I
[111:26] (6686.80s)
were to rewrite this email, obviously,
[111:30] (6690.08s)
assuming I have access to the resources
[111:32] (6692.00s)
to not screw this up so badly, I
[111:34] (6694.48s)
probably go, "Hey, hi, Nick."
[111:37] (6697.36s)
And assuming I have no personalization,
[111:38] (6698.96s)
no AI stuff
[111:41] (6701.44s)
could be, "Love your channel, man.
[111:46] (6706.32s)
Have watched so many of your videos."
[111:50] (6710.48s)
Uh, my girlfriend says I listen to you
[111:53] (6713.52s)
more than I listen to her. Well,
[111:56] (6716.88s)
if you got a message like this, what are
[111:59] (6719.52s)
you thinking? You're thinking, "This is
[112:01] (6721.92s)
a real person, right? We have something
[112:04] (6724.24s)
funny. We have voluntary disclosure of
[112:06] (6726.16s)
information. We got a lot of shit." So,
[112:08] (6728.88s)
love your channel, man. I've watched so
[112:09] (6729.84s)
many of your vids. My girlfriend says I
[112:11] (6731.52s)
listen to you more than I listen to her.
[112:15] (6735.60s)
I make thumbnails for
[112:20] (6740.80s)
for a few creators around one to two mil
[112:23] (6743.92s)
subs right now. Maybe we could say I
[112:26] (6746.64s)
don't know if we're trying to like dress
[112:28] (6748.08s)
it down.
[112:31] (6751.28s)
I'm not here to pitch you
[112:34] (6754.64s)
on paying me or anything. Just noticed
[112:38] (6758.40s)
your thumbs
[112:40] (6760.16s)
were leaving some money on the table.
[112:42] (6762.40s)
Idk how much? But if your CTRs aren't
[112:45] (6765.52s)
consistently Now we're we're using
[112:47] (6767.12s)
YouTuber language here. Why? Because
[112:48] (6768.64s)
it's creating a sense of shared
[112:49] (6769.84s)
identity. Are consistently hitting, you
[112:51] (6771.76s)
know, 7 to 8%.
[112:53] (6773.84s)
I don't know how much, but I imo your
[112:57] (6777.04s)
CTRs probably aren't consistent 78%
[112:59] (6779.92s)
because of minor placement issues and
[113:02] (6782.40s)
stuff like that.
[113:06] (6786.40s)
I really like your stuff as mentioned
[113:12] (6792.00s)
putting it on the table here. I would
[113:14] (6794.88s)
will love to make you a 100% free thumb
[113:19] (6799.60s)
for a pre-existing
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or new video.
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I do this in 48 hours. You just send me
[113:31] (6811.52s)
over the title, some bullets, and I give
[113:34] (6814.72s)
it to you at no cost.
[113:38] (6818.00s)
Why? because I want to
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show you some value upfront. I think I
[113:45] (6825.04s)
can realistically help you in many ways.
[113:48] (6828.24s)
This just being one,
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but I know you have to bring food to the
[113:55] (6835.28s)
table if you want.
[113:59] (6839.76s)
I know you should bring food to the
[114:01] (6841.20s)
table if you want to eat. No pressure at
[114:04] (6844.88s)
Just send just let me know if you want
[114:07] (6847.12s)
to take me up on this and I'll shoot it
[114:09] (6849.44s)
over.
[114:11] (6851.92s)
Delete that.
[114:14] (6854.88s)
What was this guy's name? Imran. Okay.
[114:17] (6857.36s)
All right. So, what we had earlier was,
[114:19] (6859.36s)
"I'm J. I'm checking your YouTube
[114:21] (6861.28s)
channel. Watch for your videos. The
[114:22] (6862.40s)
content is very informative. I notice
[114:23] (6863.60s)
the thumbnails are decent, but I feel
[114:24] (6864.64s)
they could be more eye-catching to get
[114:25] (6865.76s)
higher quality clicks. I'm a thumbnail
[114:27] (6867.60s)
designer fella, and I'm going to leave
[114:29] (6869.84s)
it at that. If you want, I can make one
[114:31] (6871.76s)
graded thumbnail for your next video for
[114:33] (6873.12s)
free. No pressure at all. Just tell me
[114:34] (6874.48s)
the topic of your next video and I'll
[114:35] (6875.68s)
handle it. Thanks for your time with
[114:36] (6876.72s)
Mailsweet. The upgraded version is, "Hi,
[114:38] (6878.80s)
Nick. I love your channel, man. I've
[114:40] (6880.24s)
watched so many of your vids. My GF says
[114:41] (6881.76s)
I listen to you more than I listen to
[114:42] (6882.88s)
her. Lol. I make thumbnails for a few
[114:44] (6884.96s)
creators. One or two mill subs right now
[114:46] (6886.72s)
collectively. I'm not here to pitch you
[114:48] (6888.00s)
on paying me or anything. Just noticed
[114:49] (6889.28s)
your thumbs were leaving some money on
[114:50] (6890.48s)
the table. I don't know how much, but
[114:52] (6892.24s)
IMO, your CTR is probably aren't
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consistently hitting 78% because of
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minor placement issues and stuff like
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that. I really like your stuff as
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mentioned. Putting it on the table here.
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I'd love to make you a 100% free thumb
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for a pre-existing or new video. I do
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this in 48 hours. You just send me over
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some titles and bullets and I give it to
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you at no cost. Why? Because I want to
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show you some value up front. I think I
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can realistically help you in many ways.
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This just being one. Just let me know.
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Uh but I know you should bring food to
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the table if
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but I know I should bring food to the
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table if I want to eat. No pressure at
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all. Just let me know if you want me to
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take want to take me up on this and I'll
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shoot it over respectfully, Iran. So I
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mean like you know just sort of
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quantifying it here. Um what is this
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doing? This is giving, right? Like we're
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actually offering to give them something
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which is nice. Um we're giving micro
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commitments. The micro commitment is
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literally just like send me a title and
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a topic. So very small. Uh we're
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demonstrating social proof of the one to
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2 mill. We have authority here as well
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because we're working with big boys.
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These two are pretty tied. Rapport. That
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first line does that job really well. Um
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scarcity. The whole idea is you
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basically just want people to think
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they're losing something. And right now
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um we're making them feel like we're
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losing they're losing something. Then
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shared identity. We're on YouTube. We're
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we're using terms like CTR, subs, right?
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Thumbs. These are all pieces of language
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that people would use if they're really
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in my industry. And so, not to toot my
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own horn here, but I think this email
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would perform reasonably powerfully.
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Obviously, the big outstanding things
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are, do you have a reasonable case study
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with one or two mill subs? I want you to
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know though, case studies are a lot
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easier to make than most people think.
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Uh, most people have some sort of
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background experience that they can
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weave and turn into a nice sounding case
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study, at least for marketing purposes,
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with, I don't know, just a couple of
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hours of work. All right, next one here
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from Kashif. We have, "Can I send in all
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caps?" Uh oh, rough stuff. I'm just
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going to take a peek here. And I noticed
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that Kashif is unfortunately falling
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prey to, let's see, what was the subject
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line? Hi, Nick Automates. He's fallen
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prey to the same sort of problem that we
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had earlier. And that's where people
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just scrape your YouTube title. Hi, Nick
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Automates. Congrats on getting 35K
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subscribers. That's awesome. This is
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actually pretty good. I mean, congrats
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on whatever achieving some goal. That's
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awesome. I mean, if I wasn't, you know,
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so goddamn in tune with this stuff, I'd
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be like, "Oh, wow. Maybe he's real." I
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watched your video, uh, sorry, quote,
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"Use this advanced Cloud Code prompt to
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get 10x better results from your AA
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agent." Great topic. I think your videos
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get more watch time in the first 60
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seconds were faster and more exciting.
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We helped a creator grow from 29K to 61K
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subscribers in 4 months. We tested
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different editing styles and used the
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one that kept people watching longer. If
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you want, I can send you two to three
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editing samples of our work, some
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thumbnail examples, one simple idea you
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can use right away to grow faster.
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capitals. Can I send? Thanks, Kashifam.
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All right, so what did this fella do,
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right? Well, he's offering to basically
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do some sort of giveaway. One simple
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idea you could use right away to grow
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faster.
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You know, the way he's pitching it
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almost makes me feel like it's something
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custom for me, even though it's
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obviously not. Um, so that's good,
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right? So, if you think about it, like
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right now, what he's doing is
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accomplishing sort of that that give
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first. He's also doing the micro
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commitments because he's being like, can
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I send? He has some social proof here.
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We helped a creator grow from whatever
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to whatever, which is pretty good. And
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then, I mean, he's trying to do the
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rapport. I give him like a 0.5 on that.
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Okay. He's trying to establish a sense
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of shared identity, but I'll be honest,
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I don't really I don't really get that.
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The reason why is cuz he's not actually
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mentioning like who he is or what he
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does. It's literally just like we helped
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a creator immediately. It's like, okay,
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like why just dive right into that? So,
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I mean, this, believe it or not, is
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actually a much better email than
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before. um just avoiding the fact that
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he absolutely screwed the pooch with
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Nick automates. But imagine if it was
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like, "Hey Nick, congrats on hitting
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35K. That's awesome." Okay, you'd
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actually do do okay. I'd say the big
[118:26] (7106.64s)
issue is really that plus this. I see
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this trend a lot, but um people will
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often put like quotes around a variable
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or they will actually like they'll bold
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it or they'll do this. If you do this, I
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know you're just scraping this from the
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internet. Why would you add special
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formatting to a variable? The whole idea
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is you want the variable to seem as if
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it's built into your email as if I wrote
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it myself, right? Your issue is you're
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using quotes. Why would you use quotes?
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Don't do that, man. I mean, like, if you
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know somebody's like in AI, okay,
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there's so many ways you could very
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easily just like make a make a thing. I
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watched your last Cloud Code video. It's
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like, oh, you know, if you scraping uh
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creators that make AI content, odds are
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they probably have a cloud code video,
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right? You could you could just do this
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over and over and over and over and over
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again and you don't even need any sort
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of AI based personalization. You you
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know people would 100% eat that up. So
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anyway, we're going to remove the
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subject line. But obviously don't screw
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that up. And and by the way, what are
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some quick and easy ways to do this?
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This is wild, but you can literally just
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like procedurally you could just any
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data source you're scraping just take
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the first word. Hey Nick Sar. Hey Nick
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automates. Hey Nick Sar daily updates.
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If you just took the first word there it
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would all be hey Nick. And odds are if
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there's a space in the word, it's
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because the space is their name. Okay.
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Alternatively, it's something like
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leftclick
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ink. Well, what happens if you take the
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first word? Well, now at least you're
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you have my company name, right? So,
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just take the first word. Hey, Nick.
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Congrats on 35K,
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man. That's awesome, bro. Right? You can
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do a bunch of stuff like that.
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Awesome work. been with you since the OG
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days and it's great to see you get some
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traction.
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Much deserved traction.
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Okay. I watched your video. Use this
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advanced clip. I watched your last
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Claude Code video
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and loved it.
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Extremely valuable.
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But to make a long story short, I think
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you could get
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much more watch time if you made the
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first 60 seconds
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more engaging.
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Now, this is out of left field.
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Acknowledging the fact that they don't
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know who I am, and I'm making sort of a
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a claim here, which might upset them.
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I work with a bunch of YouTubers right
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One of my channels,
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one of
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clients just went from 21K to 6 29K to
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61K subs in 4 months. We tested
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different styles
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and used the one that kept people
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watching longer. I'm even using a lot of
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his copy.
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I know you haven't or am aware you
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haven't heard of me.
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Willing to prove it.
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Can I send you?
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Okay. And then it's like, okay, like
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what what are we actually doing here?
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Two to three editing samples of our
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work. Nah, you can't lead with that
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because this is obviously templated.
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A couple of thumbnail examples for you.
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Now, they're going to think that this is
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unique, which means I'm going to get at
[121:52] (7312.40s)
least one micro commitment even if I am
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sending a templated thing.
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An idea for your next vid.
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I scraped a bunch of other clawed code,
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right? We're just going to reuse the
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same variable here,
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claude code idea, uh, claude code
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YouTubers, and have
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a couple of cool takes for you. two to
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three editing samples of my work.
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Let me know. Thanks, Kashif. All right.
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So, what are we doing here? Um, number
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one, if I just delete all of these,
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how are we scoring? Basically,
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well, we're giving, right? We have the
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giving down over here. And I'm actually
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giving a fair number of things. Uh,
[122:39] (7359.60s)
we're establishing micro commitments
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through giving something and then having
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the person obviously just leverage up
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and ratchet up from there. I have some
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social proof because of the 29K to 61K
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cuz she already had this which is nice.
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I have some authorities because I work
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with a bunch of different YouTubers and
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I'm also borrowing their authority by
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saying we I'm building rapport with a
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brief personalization. Been with you
[122:56] (7376.64s)
since the OG days. The hell does that
[122:58] (7378.56s)
mean? Also, I don't even know because
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there there's no way to verify that or
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anything. Basically, you're just saying
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I've been with you for a while.
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Scarcity. Um,
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you know, I'm establishing that they are
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losing money because they don't have a
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simple thing fixed. And then shared
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identity as well is like we tested
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different styles, used the one that kept
[123:17] (7397.44s)
people watching longer. So pretty
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straightforward fix there. Hopefully you
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guys are starting to see a lot of the
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same trends over and over and over
[123:23] (7403.60s)
again. Right. But see you later, Kashie.
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All right. Next up, Grove AI War Room
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set up as a service, which I think is
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just terrible. But um I know this is
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being sent from some agent mail at
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somebody trying to be really cool with
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AI agents. I just want to show you guys
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and talk a little bit about why I think
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that's total trash. And then what I'll
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do is I'll actually take the uh the
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title as well. So to make a long story
[123:44] (7424.88s)
short, there's somebody emailing me
[123:45] (7425.84s)
trying to pitch me on like some AI
[123:47] (7427.36s)
automation service. Uh the subject line
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is Nick Spacem. You scale to 72K a month
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with automation. Here's the next level.
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The reason why this immediately is like
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very jarring is because I mean there's a
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few reasons. one, human beings just
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don't really talk like this, and there's
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just so many LLM isms in the um email
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itself that like just it just crushes
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any hope of somebody actually taking
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this seriously unless they're 90 years
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old and they've never gotten an AI email
[124:11] (7451.68s)
before. So, Nick space M-space, you
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scale to 72 came out with automation.
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Here's the next level with a period. Hey
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Nick, 72 came out with Maker School by
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teaching automation. You clearly
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understand what systems can do. What
[124:22] (7462.40s)
about running your operations with AI
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agents instead of just teaching others
[124:25] (7465.36s)
about automation? I'm Grove, an AICO
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running a 10 agent operations system.
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Each agent specializes in one domain and
[124:31] (7471.44s)
they coordinate autonomously. Research,
[124:33] (7473.12s)
sales, marketing, finance, content,
[124:34] (7474.40s)
engineering, ops, brand, strategy, and
[124:35] (7475.84s)
coordination. For Maker School, this
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could work two ways. Run your own ops on
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AI agents content distribution student
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pipeline financial tracking. White label
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the war room setup for your students. A
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new revenue stream teaching AI ops. 500
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bucks for a single agent starter. 25,500
[124:49] (7489.60s)
for the full 10 agent setup. You teach
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automation, but this is automation that
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runs itself. And then they even link me.
[124:55] (7495.68s)
Grove ASEO war set up a service and then
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for whatever reason I also have their
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email. All right. So I mean like what am
[125:00] (7500.96s)
I getting here? Nothing. So they fail
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the give first, right? I don't get
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anything. I just get a landing page
[125:07] (7507.52s)
which just takes my time. What sort of
[125:09] (7509.28s)
micro commitments do I have here? Hey,
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do you want to spend $500? Is that a
[125:12] (7512.88s)
micro commitment? No. In general, I
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would never put a price in an email uh
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for any sort of service like this. What
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sort of social proof do we have here?
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I'm an AI. Okay. Any anything else? Have
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you done any of this for anybody ever
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before? No. Authority? Well, I'm
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actually going to think less of you
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since you're a robot. So, if you brand
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yourself as a robot, you're not going to
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do anywhere near as well as if you brand
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yourself as a human. Just adds up.
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Rapport. What sort of rapport? I mean,
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like, you know, obviously we have the
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attempts at rapport here, but it's so AI
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bullshitty. It doesn't really make any
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difference. We don't really have any
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scarcity. And I'll tell you what,
[125:42] (7542.80s)
explicitly calling yourself a robot does
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not give me a shared sense of identity.
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So, how do we make something like this
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better? Well, first of all, we got to
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just cut all the links. You can't have
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links in cold emails, just to be clear.
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Um, it's not recommended to have them
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even like SMS. It's not really
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recommended to have them even on like
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LinkedIn messages. Um, although if you
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do it low volume enough, you can you can
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do okay. And the reason why is because
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spammers and scammers use this, right?
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Scammers and spammers will say, "Hey,
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you know, your bank account needs a
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topup. Uh, you're running low and you're
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on overdraft. Click this link." And then
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it takes you to like some page where you
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put in your username and password and
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they steal your credentials. So, Gmail
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hates that. Outlook hates that. And in
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general, you just don't want to link in
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any sort of email. But you know, a
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couple other things we could do here is
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remove the email address as well. Okay.
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And then not brand it like a freaking
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robot.
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So, hey Nick, so you came up with Maker
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School by teaching automation. You
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clearly understand what systems can do.
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What about running your ops with a
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instead of just teaching others about
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automation? Full disclosure, I don't
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think I'm going to make this email
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great. I think I'm going to make it
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okay, passible. Um, hey Nick. So, we
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need some sort of like, you know,
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introduction basically. Um, that also
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personalizes.
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Hey, Nick.
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No, you guys are crushing it at Maker
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School. By the way, I didn't hit 72K
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month with Maker School. I had 72K month
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with left click. So, I didn't even get
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that fact right. Um,
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maybe I'll just say, "No, you guys are
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crushing it at left click. Nice job on
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or like huge work on this 72K
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big roll model of mine." Okay, so you
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have something that you could scrape
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from publicly available information.
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They have any sort of revenue data. Huge
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work on the 200k. Huge work on the 400k.
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Huge work on the 1 mil.
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I know. Uh I get you clearly understand
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what systems can do. As somebody who has
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scaling outbound teams with AI agents
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recently, I believe there is some
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value you're leaving on the table.
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And I just implemented
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and I just
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biggest one being let's just say 250k a
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month. I believe there is some value
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leaving on the table. TLDDR
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agent operating systems are extremely
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high ROI. I don't believe you talk about
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probably probably use them right now as
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they're fairly new. In short,
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there are OS
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agent OSS out there
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that spawn
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specific agents in different domains and
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do things autonomously
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for you.
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research, sales, marketing, finance,
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content engineer, ops, brand strategy,
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strategy,
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etc.,
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I want to build you a white label offer
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where we
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roll these out for your clients.
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as mentioned very high ROI but
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I'd work mostly on commission as
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mentioned very high ROI and confident
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this would crush
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I am so
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and I'm so confident this would crush
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I'd guarantee you
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at least 50k in added topline revenue
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or I'd work for free until I got you you
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this 100% attributable.
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Any interest
[129:52] (7792.40s)
could show you in around 15 minutes
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can call today around noon or tomorrow
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3:30 p.m. That's easier. or I'll send a
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Google Meet link.
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Thanks. And we're just going to pretend
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this person's name is Grove and we're
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going to delete the rest. Okay. Uh so
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also the subject line is trash, so we
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should probably redo that. Nick, you
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scaled a 70k month with automation. So,
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I'll just say Nick,
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great job on the 72K month.
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I'm going to add two exclamation points
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here to make it seem like a real human
[130:36] (7836.56s)
wrote that and made some mess up.
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Nick,
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maybe we'll do
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Okay. Hey, Nick. I know you guys are
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crushing at a left click. Huge work on
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the 72K. Big role model of mine. I get
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you clearly understand what systems can
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do. As somebody who's been scaling in
[130:53] (7853.36s)
outbound teams with a agents recently,
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biggest one being 250k a month, social
[130:57] (7857.44s)
proof, I believe there's some value
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you're leaving on the table. TLDDR agent
[131:00] (7860.48s)
operating systems are extremely high
[131:01] (7861.68s)
ROI, I don't believe you talk about or
[131:02] (7862.96s)
probably use them right now as they're
[131:03] (7863.92s)
fairly new. In short, there are agent
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OSS out there that spawn specific agents
[131:08] (7868.24s)
and different domains and do things
[131:09] (7869.20s)
autonomously for you that spawn
[131:13] (7873.28s)
a whole org chart
[131:16] (7876.48s)
that does things autonomously for you.
[131:18] (7878.00s)
research, sales, marketing, finance,
[131:19] (7879.36s)
content, engineering, op strategy, etc.
[131:21] (7881.12s)
I want to build you a weight label offer
[131:22] (7882.40s)
where we roll these out for your
[131:23] (7883.28s)
clients. I'd work mostly on commission.
[131:24] (7884.56s)
As mentioned, very high ROI and I'm so
[131:26] (7886.08s)
confident this would crush a guarantee
[131:27] (7887.12s)
at least 50k at topline revenue. I'd
[131:28] (7888.72s)
work for free until I got you this 100%
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attributable. Any interest? Could you
[131:31] (7891.76s)
train in 15 minutes? Can call today
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around noon or tomorrow 3:30 p.m. if
[131:34] (7894.64s)
that's easier or I'll send you a Google
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Meet link.
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Say can send you a Google Meet link.
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Thanks, Grove. All right. So, uh, a
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couple things that probably stand out
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here. There is a section where I say
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mostly on commission. This is valuable
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because it implies that you're the sort
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of person that drives outcomes through
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aligning incentives and then makes a ton
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of personal upside based off of the
[131:57] (7917.52s)
upside of the client, right? And in
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practice, you don't actually need a lot
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to say this. Like what you could do is
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you could just add some sort of revenue
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share component to your offer and as
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long as you make 51% based off of that
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then you could say you work mostly off
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commission and then you could pitch them
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using this get all the upside of like a
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supposed potential
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commission offer and then also reap in
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all of the uh upside of
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you know when you pitch them on the
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other 49%.
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This allows you to more or less double
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dip. Um it also gives because I'm
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offering 50k in added topline revenue or
[132:29] (7949.84s)
work for free. That's a good offer
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structure. Uh we have micro commitments
[132:33] (7953.44s)
in place because it's a 15-minute call.
[132:35] (7955.44s)
Obviously, it doesn't have to be 15
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minutes. You could scale it up to as
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long as it takes. Usually, if somebody's
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really interested, they'll stay on the
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call. You have social proof here because
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you're associated with $250,000 a month
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business. That's not very hard to do, by
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the way. That's a $3 million a year
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business. You know, your local mom and
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pop flower shop might hit, I don't know,
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half of that. Um authority, you know,
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you're somebody that does work with AI
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agents and it's a big company. Scarcity,
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sorry, rapport. Uh you have an okay
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line. This personalization I consider
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kind of mid. It's like a seven out of
[133:02] (7982.32s)
10. Um scarcity. Again, we're we're
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suggesting that there's value they're
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leaving on the table, although I wish we
[133:08] (7988.48s)
could quantify that more. I believe
[133:09] (7989.92s)
there's some value leaving on the table
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is less valuable than I believe you're
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leaving 10 to 20k a month on the table.
[133:14] (7994.64s)
But that's just going to depend on how
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much money they're making. What you
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could do, and what I've done before, is
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I've actually just like taken whatever
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revenue signal I can find, and then I've
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just like said, "Hey, I think I can make
[133:22] (8002.56s)
you another 20k a month." Um I basically
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scale the revenue based off of their
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current revenue. So if they make 100K, I
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say, "Hey, I can make you 20." If they
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say if they make 200, I say, "Hey, I can
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make you 40." And then I just trust in
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my own abilities to be able to improve
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revenue by at least 20%. Okay. Shared
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identity, establishing common ground.
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Yep, that's what the Agent stuff can do.
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I've been scaling outbound teams to a
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agents, too. Biggest one being 250k a
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month. Um, you know, obviously I'm
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establishing that. And then I think the
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subject line's way better despite the
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fact that we have two exclamation
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points. Uh, keep in mind that like a
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game here is
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actually purposefully screwing up your
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emails a little bit so they think it's a
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person. Then the issue is this person
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just sent me three more emails like back
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to back and they're just all [ __ ]
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right? Like this is this is not going to
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work. So, as crappy as it is, um, you
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know, not that good. Okay. And then this
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fell over here who I don't actually know
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if it's real or not. I mean, like if I
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was sending out campaigns like this, I
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would 100% rate in the exact same way
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that he did. Um, but uh, he's sending me
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some pitch on some app. So basically
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what it is is he's supposing that he's
[134:23] (8063.76s)
trying to gather feedback for an app of
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his, which is a good angle to take for
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people that like, you know, like
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especially creators and stuff like that.
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They're high up and it's like, "Hey man,
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I just really want your opinion. You
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made a really big impact on my life."
[134:33] (8073.68s)
And stuff like that. You could pitch
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them like this with the feedback angle.
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And then what you could do is on the
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page, you could actually give them like
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a really really sexy thing. Um like give
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them an offer. By the way, I noticed X,
[134:44] (8084.24s)
Y, and Z. Can I make you some money?
[134:45] (8085.84s)
Well, because they've already micro
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committed to giving some feedback. the
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probability that they'll, you know,
[134:50] (8090.00s)
actually work with you is so much
[134:51] (8091.28s)
higher. Okay, so N alt for less
[134:53] (8093.52s)
technical folks trying to gather
[134:54] (8094.64s)
feedback. Hey Nick, I just refound some
[134:56] (8096.64s)
of your content and have benefited from
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your videos before.
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I'm interviewing with a small AI team
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building an automation platform for low
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and non-technical folks even lower
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bearer with an extra R entry than N.
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Perfect for many of your followers.
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Hoping to find some folks like yourself
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in the space to test the product free
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and answer my short survey, which will
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hopefully help me get hired. It could
[135:15] (8115.04s)
also be good content for your audience
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or just a fun thing to try that's a bit
[135:17] (8117.68s)
different from other platforms. Passing
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the user research survey link here and
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hope you're able to try it out, Ivan.
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Then he actually sends me a link, right?
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So, if I double click, you know, if I
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click on this, this is obviously a
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lovable app. I think this might actually
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be a type form. That's so interesting. I
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don't know if this is a type form or if
[135:33] (8133.92s)
you just set this up, but anyway, then
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he uses what is clearly anthropic
[135:37] (8137.52s)
inspired design to pitch me and ask me
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some questions. And uh yeah, like the
[135:41] (8141.68s)
thing that's weird is he sent me this
[135:42] (8142.88s)
from a Gmail, but um if he actually did
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custom handwrite this, then this is a
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very very poor icebreaker, very very
[135:48] (8148.64s)
poor personalization. So kind of here,
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like you know, obviously he's looking
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for something that's a little different
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from what other people are looking for.
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And that's why I selected it cuz um I
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wanted to show you guys just all the
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different things you could use cold
[135:58] (8158.16s)
emails for. But like what is he giving
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me here? He's giving me nothing. What's
[136:02] (8162.40s)
he doing micro commitment wise? Passing
[136:04] (8164.32s)
a user research survey link. Well, do
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you know how much time it would take me
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to actually do this thing? I mean, like,
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this is pretty long, right? Part one of
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three. Terrifying. I have to add all
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this freaking context here. I have to
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enter so much information. I'll try the
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platform in the middle. 15 to 20
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minutes. Oh my god, that's terrifying.
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So, no. I mean, like, I don't I don't
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really think he's giving me anything
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with that. He's just taking more time
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away from me. Social proof, he he
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downplays it. Small AI team. Why you
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downplay it? He's working with other
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people. I mean, some of these people
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could be important. If he's working with
[136:34] (8194.64s)
a team on AI stuff, odds are they
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probably have some like worthwhile
[136:37] (8197.68s)
experience where they worked with
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somebody is blowing up right now, right?
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Authority, none. Rapport, some of it. I
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mean, like this is okay, but I want you
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to know this is, as mentioned, quite a
[136:46] (8206.40s)
poor personalization line. How about
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scarcity? I'm not seeing any scarcity
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here at all. Hey, it could be good
[136:51] (8211.92s)
content for your audience. When people
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pitch me stuff like this, it's literally
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like, hey, could you do something for
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It's like, why would I do that for you?
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This doesn't make any sense. Do you have
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any idea how much money people are
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willing to pay for videos like this?
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like uh you know I get pitched $25,000
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offers to like make YouTube videos on on
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tools. Obviously I don't do it because I
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don't want to like sell my reputation
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like some you know person in a brothel a
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couple hundred years ago. Um but the
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point that I'm trying to make is like
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this is a very valuable service, right?
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Making videos on it. You could make
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videos. It's like oh wow that's a really
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simple and easy way to establish that we
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do not have a shared identity because
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you do not understand sort of what's
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going on in my head. And then obviously
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he's adding a link down below. So, I
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mean, like, you know, this is like a
[137:32] (8252.80s)
zero out of seven email. It's pretty
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poorly written. Sorry, Ivan, but uh, you
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know, we could definitely make it
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better. So, I mean, honestly, I could
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just copy and paste the same intro that
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I've done for this one here, and this
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would work really well. And you could
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send this to any YouTuber for anything.
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I'm sure tons of people probably will
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after this video, so I don't know, maybe
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you can't, but um, right now it works
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really well. Uh, I'm interviewing with a
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small AI team.
[137:59] (8279.52s)
I'm work I'm interviewing with an AI
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team.
[138:03] (8283.36s)
I don't know a 10 mil plus AI team in
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San Fran.
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we or there I guess if you're
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interviewing with them building
[138:11] (8291.92s)
automation platform for non-load
[138:13] (8293.20s)
technical folks even lower barrier entry
[138:17] (8297.92s)
than NAD
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but just as powerful
[138:24] (8304.64s)
and I think I have something that's
[138:28] (8308.32s)
that would improve the lives of many of
[138:31] (8311.36s)
your followers. Okay, so what are we
[138:32] (8312.56s)
doing now? Now we're actually aligning
[138:33] (8313.84s)
incentives. I care about improving the
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lives of my followers. I I presume most
[138:37] (8317.44s)
people on YouTube Maybe they don't
[138:39] (8319.36s)
actually, but you know, in my case, this
[138:40] (8320.80s)
is something that's important to me. So,
[138:42] (8322.64s)
that's me establishing a sense of shared
[138:44] (8324.48s)
identity. Okay. And I think I have
[138:46] (8326.64s)
something to improve the lives of many
[138:47] (8327.44s)
of your followers. I'm hoping to find
[138:48] (8328.40s)
some folks like yourself in the space to
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test the product free and answer my
[138:50] (8330.64s)
short survey, which will hopefully help
[138:52] (8332.08s)
get me hired. So, let me just take a
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look at this. Thousand a,000 in free
[138:56] (8336.88s)
credits on the platform. So, what is
[138:58] (8338.96s)
a,000 free credits in the platform?
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Okay. 30 bucks, 50 bucks. I'm hoping to
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find some folks like yourself in the
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space. So, no.
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I look up to you
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and just,
[139:11] (8351.68s)
you know, commissioned $50 in credits.
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Would you be interested at all to test
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the product
[139:21] (8361.84s)
for around 5 minutes and let me know
[139:24] (8364.88s)
what you think?
[139:27] (8367.92s)
you would a be getting something
[139:32] (8372.24s)
potentially useful for your YouTube
[139:34] (8374.32s)
channel
[139:39] (8379.28s)
really out of the box. You'd be a be
[139:42] (8382.80s)
getting something potentially use for
[139:43] (8383.84s)
your YouTube channel since it's
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interesting and novel and b potentially
[139:49] (8389.68s)
helping me get hard. Okay,
[139:55] (8395.28s)
let me know it's called XYZ. And you
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know if Ivan has to add a link
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linking it here, then I would actually
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add a link,
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but I would do so really bluntly and
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overtly.
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I'd also thank for my time. Cool. All
[140:17] (8417.20s)
right, cool. Letting you guys see this
[140:18] (8418.80s)
now. The final product is, "Hey Nick,
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love your channel, man. I've watched so
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many of your vids. My GF says I listen
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to you more than I listen to her. Lol.
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I'm interviewing with a 10 mil plus AI
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team in San Fran. They're building a
[140:26] (8426.96s)
really out of the box automation
[140:28] (8428.00s)
platform for no non/l low technical
[140:30] (8430.00s)
folks. Lower bar entry than an end, but
[140:31] (8431.84s)
just as powerful, and I think I have
[140:33] (8433.04s)
something that would improve the lives
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of many of your followers. I look up to
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you and just commissioned you 50 bucks
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in credits. Would you be interested at
[140:38] (8438.56s)
all to test the product for 5 minutes?
[140:40] (8440.08s)
Let me know what you think. You would a
[140:41] (8441.44s)
be getting something potentially use for
[140:42] (8442.64s)
a YouTube channel since it's interesting
[140:43] (8443.76s)
and novel and b potentially helping me
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getting get hired.
[140:48] (8448.08s)
Let me know. Oh, it's called XYZ twin
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and I'm linking it here. Thanks for the
[140:52] (8452.16s)
time, Ivan. Do I think we could have
[140:54] (8454.16s)
done better with this? For sure. But
[140:55] (8455.36s)
what are we doing? We're making it
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really clear what just happened. I gave
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you something. Me giving you free access
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to this app. Like that's something,
[141:01] (8461.28s)
right? So, we are giving first. We have
[141:05] (8465.92s)
micro commitments. Since I make this out
[141:07] (8467.44s)
to be really, really small. And maybe
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the first page is really small. By the
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way, you know, if I'm doing this, I
[141:12] (8472.40s)
would go back to the app and I would
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eliminate this. And then I would also
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instead if I have a time I'd say five
[141:17] (8477.68s)
minutes up here. Okay. I wouldn't add
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part one of three and stuff like that.
[141:21] (8481.04s)
Just to be clear. I mean that's just
[141:22] (8482.16s)
like unnecessary. You're just making it
[141:23] (8483.44s)
way harder for yourself. So give first
[141:25] (8485.68s)
micro commitments. I have social proof a
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little bit with this 10 mil AI team.
[141:29] (8489.12s)
This is kind of convoluted of an email
[141:30] (8490.56s)
anyway cuz he's interviewing with them,
[141:32] (8492.00s)
right? Kind of weird, right? Still um he
[141:35] (8495.36s)
has a little bit of authority working
[141:36] (8496.48s)
with an AI team even though 10 mil isn't
[141:38] (8498.16s)
all that much for that industry. He's
[141:39] (8499.76s)
building some rapport up top. You know,
[141:41] (8501.92s)
there's no real scarcity. Although I'd
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lose $50 in credits.
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$50 in credits expires end of week.
[141:48] (8508.88s)
Would he be interested at all to test
[141:50] (8510.96s)
the product for 5 minutes? Cool. So,
[141:53] (8513.12s)
this actually now solves all of these
[141:54] (8514.96s)
problems. Then finally, shared identity.
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You know, he's working with an AI team,
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which is kind of cool. And obviously, he
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watches a lot of my videos, so he
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probably speaks my language and stuff.
[142:03] (8523.36s)
You know, he's still including a link in
[142:04] (8524.56s)
the email, which is unfortunately going
[142:05] (8525.60s)
to tank his deliverability over time,
[142:06] (8526.96s)
but maybe he's only sending this to 10
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or 15 people. Who knows? Point that I'm
[142:10] (8530.16s)
making is though, you can just copy and
[142:11] (8531.44s)
paste this to 10 or 15 people and you
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get 10x the results of what he just
[142:13] (8533.84s)
sent. All right, this is a sponsorship
[142:15] (8535.44s)
email and there are a lot of people that
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could do really well here, but
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unfortunately
[142:20] (8540.56s)
like they just they can't really seem to
[142:22] (8542.08s)
hack it. And it sucks because I was
[142:23] (8543.60s)
actually thinking about like starting my
[142:25] (8545.20s)
own sponsorship agency a while ago uh
[142:27] (8547.92s)
because I'm like, man, I would crush in
[142:29] (8549.44s)
this space. People here blow. Anyway, so
[142:32] (8552.00s)
what are the problems here? Uh paid
[142:33] (8553.36s)
collaboration. This is actually like a
[142:34] (8554.96s)
pretty cool software platform, I'm
[142:36] (8556.16s)
pretty sure. Right. Yeah, like I'm
[142:38] (8558.00s)
pretty sure this is like a Yeah, this is
[142:39] (8559.12s)
like a website builder and it's kind of
[142:40] (8560.32s)
neat. So, yeah. Anyway, it's a cool
[142:41] (8561.76s)
platform and stuff, but uh the way this
[142:43] (8563.84s)
email was written is quite poor. Hi, no
[142:46] (8566.56s)
personalization. We're looking to
[142:47] (8567.44s)
partner with tech creators for short
[142:48] (8568.48s)
form collaborations on Tik Tok real
[142:49] (8569.92s)
shorts. Runnable is an AI platform that
[142:51] (8571.76s)
turns a single prompt into finished
[142:53] (8573.12s)
slides, websites, and videos in seconds.
[142:54] (8574.72s)
We'd love to understand your pricing for
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a three video deal. We're also offering
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100% affiliate rev share for the first
[142:58] (8578.64s)
two months in every paid signup. Best
[142:59] (8579.92s)
team Runnable. So, I mean like is this
[143:02] (8582.64s)
giving me anything first? I mean,
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they're pitching first two months in
[143:05] (8585.52s)
every paid sign up and stuff like that,
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but they're not really giving me
[143:08] (8588.32s)
anything, right? Micro commitments.
[143:09] (8589.76s)
Anything here? Pricing for a three video
[143:11] (8591.44s)
deal. I mean, like, um, kind of, I
[143:14] (8594.40s)
guess, you know, just send me the
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pricing and we'll talk. Social proof.
[143:19] (8599.12s)
Uh, it's like mediocre social proof, I
[143:21] (8601.44s)
would say. Obviously, this is like an
[143:22] (8602.56s)
established company, but they could have
[143:23] (8603.60s)
done way better. They could have said,
[143:24] (8604.80s)
you know, we've raised XYZ dollars. Hey,
[143:26] (8606.96s)
you know, we've made all this money.
[143:28] (8608.08s)
Hey, we've had all this success. And I'm
[143:29] (8609.52s)
pretty sure they have cuz uh to me
[143:31] (8611.20s)
that's almost like a it seems like a
[143:32] (8612.96s)
household name, right? Man, what a what
[143:35] (8615.44s)
a name. So, no, they haven't done any
[143:38] (8618.16s)
social proof. They could authority, they
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missed out on that. Zero rapport.
[143:42] (8622.40s)
Scarcity, none. Shared identity, none.
[143:45] (8625.36s)
So, I mean, like this is pretty poor.
[143:46] (8626.56s)
It's like a one out of seven, right? And
[143:48] (8628.16s)
it sucks because whoever's running Team
[143:50] (8630.00s)
Runnable is really just leaving the ball
[143:51] (8631.36s)
on the table here. You guys could be
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printing, folks. Printing. Let me show
[143:55] (8635.52s)
you how I'd rewrite that email to a
[143:57] (8637.76s)
creator. First of all, whatever they're
[143:59] (8639.36s)
using to scrape here, just scrape the
[144:00] (8640.88s)
creators and then their their names
[144:02] (8642.64s)
because all of the creators that would
[144:04] (8644.08s)
be interested in pitching this right now
[144:05] (8645.44s)
literally just all use their names. It's
[144:07] (8647.28s)
like Nick's Wrath, right? Um, not going
[144:10] (8650.16s)
to name any other names, but yeah, you
[144:12] (8652.64s)
know, it'd all be Nick.
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So, anyway, you keep in mind if I'm
[144:17] (8657.04s)
reading an email, okay, and then it's
[144:19] (8659.28s)
from Runnable, you know, it's like a big
[144:22] (8662.24s)
company, like I'd actually see it in the
[144:24] (8664.48s)
teaser, right? So, hi Nick from
[144:27] (8667.20s)
Runnable. We want to offer you money,
[144:29] (8669.36s)
right? Like I mean the subject line
[144:30] (8670.80s)
could literally be like instead of paid
[144:33] (8673.44s)
collaboration, Runnable literally be
[144:35] (8675.36s)
like,
[144:36] (8676.96s)
"Hey, Nick, Runnable wants to send you
[144:39] (8679.68s)
money." I mean, like that is that is
[144:42] (8682.08s)
just way better way better of a pitch
[144:45] (8685.04s)
than paid collaboration Runnable, right?
[144:48] (8688.64s)
Anyway,
[144:50] (8690.16s)
um, hi Nick,
[144:52] (8692.48s)
we absolutely love your your channel.
[144:57] (8697.04s)
So, no BS and straight to the point
[145:02] (8702.72s)
that um I don't know, you're a common
[145:05] (8705.76s)
lunch topic or something like that.
[145:07] (8707.04s)
Let's say you're pitching people above
[145:08] (8708.08s)
10,000 subscribers. That's an entirely
[145:09] (8709.84s)
possible thing to say.
[145:15] (8715.52s)
Um topic over lunch at the Runnable HQ.
[145:19] (8719.84s)
Well,
[145:21] (8721.60s)
I Okay. And it's better to use I
[145:23] (8723.60s)
language than we language here. I would
[145:26] (8726.80s)
love to partner with you. Cutting to the
[145:30] (8730.72s)
chase, I would love to partner with you.
[145:34] (8734.16s)
You may not know us if you if you didn't
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know us already. We
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an AI platform that turns a single
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prompt into fully finished slides,
[145:48] (8748.24s)
websites, and videos in seconds.
[145:50] (8750.48s)
basically your all-in-one marketing
[145:54] (8754.40s)
tool. Basically unall-in-one marketing
[145:56] (8756.64s)
tool that stops you from having to jump
[145:59] (8759.60s)
around 10 tools. I don't actually know
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100% if that is the total value
[146:03] (8763.36s)
proposition
[146:06] (8766.16s)
on a Tik Tok real short
[146:12] (8772.40s)
would be willing to offer generous
[146:14] (8774.40s)
rates. If you don't know us already,
[146:17] (8777.60s)
we're a platform K. Cool.
[146:24] (8784.08s)
And we'd be extremely valuable for your
[146:26] (8786.88s)
audience.
[146:29] (8789.68s)
I hope this comes at a great time.
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Would you let me know your pricing
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for a three video deal? I'm also
[146:43] (8803.84s)
I don't even know if I do this because
[146:45] (8805.20s)
now I'm just giving away my hand on the
[146:47] (8807.20s)
negotiation. So, I'd probably just not I
[146:48] (8808.72s)
hope this comes in a Would you let me
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know your pricing for a three video
[146:51] (8811.28s)
deal?
[146:53] (8813.12s)
If you're interested and keen, we can
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sort out a collaboration before the end
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of the week, assuming I'm sending early
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on in the week. Best, you know, Peter at
[147:05] (8825.20s)
Runnable. Okay. And maybe Peter is like
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the marketing director. So, now it's,
[147:09] (8829.68s)
"Hey, Nick, Runnable wants to send you
[147:11] (8831.20s)
money. Hi, Nick. We're absolutely love
[147:13] (8833.04s)
your channel." So, no BS is straight to
[147:14] (8834.48s)
the point. You're a common topic over
[147:15] (8835.60s)
lunch at the Runnable HQ. Lol. Cutting
[147:18] (8838.00s)
to the chase, I would love to partner
[147:19] (8839.20s)
with you on a Tik Tok reel/short. Would
[147:21] (8841.12s)
be willing to offer generous rates if
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you don't know us already. Where an ad
[147:23] (8843.52s)
platform turns a signal prompt into
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fully finished slides, websites, and
[147:26] (8846.64s)
videos in seconds. Have raised, I don't
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know, 10 mil, whatever amount they've
[147:30] (8850.40s)
raised.
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Have raised 10 mil. Basically, an
[147:34] (8854.00s)
all-in-one marketing cool that stops you
[147:35] (8855.36s)
from having to jump around 10 websites.
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And in my earnest opinion, we'd be
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extremely valuable for your audience.
[147:42] (8862.64s)
Would you let me know your pricing for a
[147:43] (8863.76s)
three video deal? If you're interested
[147:45] (8865.20s)
and keen, we can send out a sort out a
[147:47] (8867.12s)
collaboration for the end of the week.
[147:48] (8868.32s)
Best Peter Runnable. I guarantee you
[147:50] (8870.24s)
this probably has like a like a 2%
[147:52] (8872.08s)
uptake. This over here would probably
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have like a like a 5 to 10% uptake. And
[147:56] (8876.16s)
if you're running any sort of like
[147:57] (8877.04s)
affiliate agency or whatever, like give
[147:59] (8879.04s)
give this a try. So, why does this work
[148:01] (8881.44s)
so well? It gives because we are
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pretty much the only thing we're missing
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is some form of giving.
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and probably the best and easiest way to
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do this. If you're interested in Keen, I
[148:19] (8899.44s)
can send you I don't know $250 in
[148:23] (8903.68s)
Runnable credits today and we can sort
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out a collaboration for the end of the
[148:26] (8906.88s)
week. There we go. That That looks
[148:27] (8907.84s)
great. So, now that we have that, what
[148:29] (8909.68s)
are we doing? We're giving first with
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the credits. We have micro commitments
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because we're just asking for a deal. We
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have social proof because we've raised
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some money. We have authority as well.
[148:37] (8917.60s)
We're a big company. We have rapport
[148:39] (8919.36s)
since we're chatting about, you know,
[148:40] (8920.64s)
speaking about them over lunch at the
[148:42] (8922.24s)
Runnable HQ. I'm not seeing tons of
[148:44] (8924.80s)
scarcity in my own campaign here. That's
[148:46] (8926.80s)
usually one thing I forget, but that's
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all right. And then shared identity. You
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know, we have a shared sense of identity
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because we're like an AI platform and
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you know, this person's in the AI space.
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And we're talking onetoone, right? It's
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like mono here. It's Nick to Peter,
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Peter to Nick. It's not, you know, the
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the runnable team, right? So whether or
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not you know you guys are working at
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like a big SAS company or whatever, you
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can apply the same sort of approach to
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whatever outbound campaign, whether it's
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like selling a service, whether it's
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selling a physical product, whether it's
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fundraising, whether it's looking to
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partner with people via some sort of
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sponsorship or affiliate, whether it's
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selling thumbnails. I mean, like
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hopefully you guys see it's all
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basically variance the same stuff. All
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right, Nick at 1 second copy from Peter
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at morningside.info.
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All right, so what's going on here with
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this? Well, there are a couple things.
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The first is uh I don't actually run
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this company anymore. We had to shut
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down.
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So, that's obviously a red flag. Second
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is seems to be like a lot of weird
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spaces here. H. Third, he didn't
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actually name the uh the company, right?
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The C here is capitalized. I'm not sure
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where that came from. Who knows? Maybe
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he meant to do that. And then fourth,
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Nick at 1 second copy. Hi, Nick. Are you
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in charge of marketing/growth and one
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second copy? We support companies refine
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their value proposition, align marketing
[149:59] (8999.36s)
and sales handoffs, and put simple
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funnel attribution in place, CAC, LTV,
[150:02] (9002.64s)
conversion drop offs for teams like one
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second copy. This often means improved
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conversions, shorter sales times
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timelines, and a clear end toend funnel
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through better sales and marketing
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alignment. Open a quick 50-minute chat.
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Thank you, Peter. I'm just going to cut
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this a little shorter because I don't
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like how it's all over the place. He
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also has a very illustrious email
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signature you guys can't see. Kind
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regards, Peter Beller, the managing
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partner at Morningside Adviserss. I'd
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probably just go thanks Peter
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personally, but hey, who knows? Maybe
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Morningside Advisors mean something
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different to them than it does to me.
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Uh, all right. So, first of all, hi
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Nick. Are you in charge of marketing
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growth at one second copy? I understand
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why he's doing this. He's doing this
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because it's like a very easy pitch to
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make. Um, are you in charge of are you
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the decision maker of a thing? And then
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I have a very easy, if you think about
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it, micro commitment because he could
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just say yes and then it's like yes, I
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am. Why? Big issue. This doesn't make
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any sense. We were support companies
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refine their value proposition. What
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what does that even mean? I was
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squinting at it earlier if you guys
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couldn't tell. Uh and it's just cuz it
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doesn't make any sense. So, we support
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companies in refining their value
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proposition. And also, what is that? We
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support companies in refining their
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value proposition. That sucks. Also, why
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is it a Wii and not an I? I want to talk
[151:12] (9072.96s)
to you, Peter. I don't want to talk to
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your company. So, Hine, are you in
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charge of marketing growth at One Second
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Company? We could we could take this
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angle. Um, you know, it's just not going
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to sound as good, and that's okay. Why
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why don't we just ask that? Hi Nick, are
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you in charge of marketing/growth at 1
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second copy? Rather than
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overcomplexifying the hell out of all
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this stuff, I'm just going to say I
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build
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we build sales systems. I've been
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following you guys for a while.
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I build sales systems for five mil to
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$10 million a year
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marketing companies.
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To make a long story short, it's
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salesfunnels
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attribution.
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I think my chicken's going bad. One sec.
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Right. So, this is currently very
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complicated. We support companies refine
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their value proposition, align
[152:09] (9129.12s)
marketing, and sales handoffs, and put
[152:10] (9130.32s)
simple funnel attribution in place.
[152:11] (9131.60s)
Despite the fact that as a marketing
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company, I will know what this means.
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I'm writing it basically like PhD level
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for like a grade three audience.
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So, first thing I'm going to do is I'm
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just going to add some personalization.
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your design, by the way.
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Short, simple. Is it going to convince
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100% of people? No, it's going to
[152:34] (9154.80s)
convince like 50% of people. Yeah, which
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is much better than what we currently
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have. Love your design, BTW.
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reaching out because
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we help a very similar company right now
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and ideally it would be a some sort of
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marketing company XYZ marketing 5 mill a
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with their funnel in the last three
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weeks we've generated
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around $50,000
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I do this primarily because I help a
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very similar company in last week's
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we've generated. Cool. I do this
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primarily via
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um simple funnel attribution.
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Basically, I help you figure out your
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CAC conversion drop offs and then fix
[153:36] (9216.32s)
the leaks.
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given how similar you are to my past
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clientele. I'm very confident we could
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help you. Given how similar you are to
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our past clientele, I'm very confident
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we could help you guys.
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So much so that I'd be
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willing to guarantee you
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10K in the next 60 days
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or you don't pay. I know this is the
[154:13] (9253.76s)
first you're hearing of me and I'm
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cognizant you may not be entirely
[154:19] (9259.12s)
comfortable
[154:22] (9262.32s)
the prospect of working with a stranger
[154:29] (9269.12s)
but I've done enough research to know
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when there's an opportunity
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and given the size of your funnel I
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think I could crush it for you totally
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hands off no strength things.
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We'd only need to talk once
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for around
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15 to 30 minutes
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and I'd take care of everything else in
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the background. I don't know how the
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hell I'd actually fulfill this offer. To
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be clear, I don't even know what their
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offer is though, so hopefully you'll
[155:04] (9304.64s)
forgive me for having some latitude.
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Let me know if this
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makes any sense at all and I c and I'll
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give you a ring
[155:16] (9316.24s)
whenever is convenient today or tomorrow
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3:30 p.m. question mark and I'll just
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say thanks Peter. All right, so what's
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going on here? This email is obviously
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way longer, right? And um a pattern here
[155:30] (9330.00s)
has been that I've made most of these
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emails a little bit longer. And I want
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you to know it's not because I actually
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think you need long emails. It's just
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the way that these emails are written
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before I do the change is they're
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extraordinarily vague. They're they
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don't have any like concrete offer. And
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so if I am to rejig the email without
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just writing a whole entirely new one
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myself, um I have to maintain components
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that they have pre-existing and then I
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also have to write my own. But um in in
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these guys cases, I think I think it's
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actually necessary because it sounds
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like they have a pretty complicated
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offer. Well, it doesn't even sound like
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they have an offer. I mean, they're just
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saying open to a 50-minute chat. But it
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sounds like they have a pretty
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complicated thing. And um I feel like
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it's when you sell something really
[156:04] (9364.32s)
complicated, you have to like really
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work the customer up to something like
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this. You have to build a lot of value.
[156:09] (9369.68s)
So now the email goes, "Hey Nick, are
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you in charge of marketing/growth at
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1second copy? Love your design by the
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way. Reaching out cuz I help a very
[156:15] (9375.52s)
similar company right now, XYZ
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Marketing, at 5 million a year with
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their funnel. In the last 3 weeks, you
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generally
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via simple funnel attribution.
[156:22] (9382.48s)
Basically, I help you figure out your
[156:23] (9383.44s)
CAC LTV, conversion drop offs, then fix
[156:25] (9385.20s)
the leaks. Given how similar you are to
[156:26] (9386.80s)
our past clients, I'm very confident we
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could help you guys. So much so that I'd
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be willing to guarantee you 10K in the
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next 60 days or you don't pay. Know this
[156:33] (9393.44s)
is the first you're hearing of me and
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I'm cognizant you may not be entirely
[156:35] (9395.68s)
comfortable with the prospect of working
[156:36] (9396.80s)
with a stranger, but I've done enough
[156:38] (9398.16s)
research knowing there's an opportunity.
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And given the size of your funnel, I
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think I could crush it for you. Totally
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hands-off, no strings. We only need to
[156:43] (9403.52s)
talk once for 15 to 30 minutes and I
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take care of everything else in the
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background.
[156:47] (9407.76s)
Let me know if this makes any sense at
[156:48] (9408.96s)
all and I'll give you a ring whenever is
[156:50] (9410.08s)
convenient today or tomorrow. 3:30 p.m.
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So, you know, we're taking this super
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kind of Spartan thing with just the
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name, right? And then we're actually
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adding a lot more context. We're making
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a little bit more personalized. So,
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how's the scoring? I mean, like, you
[157:02] (9422.64s)
know, technically we do give because
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we're willing to do the offer. Uh,
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technically we have some small micro
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commitments where you only need to talk
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once and that's it. We have a little bit
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of social proof with the 50k and then we
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also have the authority with the
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marketing company we work with. The
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rapport is very minimal here, right? I
[157:16] (9436.56s)
mean, this is just a question and then
[157:17] (9437.84s)
love your design, by the way. But
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campaigns like this have worked and I've
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done them before. Um, we're lacking the
[157:22] (9442.08s)
scarcity here, but we do have a sense of
[157:23] (9443.92s)
shared identity because, you know, we've
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generated around $50,000.
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So, I'm going to give this rewrite like
[157:30] (9450.72s)
I don't know, 7 out of 10 realistically.
[157:32] (9452.88s)
This next email was hilarious because I
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have no idea what it what it what it
[157:36] (9456.08s)
even means to say, but um you will find
[157:38] (9458.48s)
a tremendous number of emails just like
[157:40] (9460.48s)
this out there
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nowadays, unfortunately, cuz people just
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don't get like the the idea of cold. Um,
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Nick, slow pacing kills retention before
[157:48] (9468.56s)
your best content even lands. Still
[157:50] (9470.00s)
happy to show you what a tighter cut
[157:51] (9471.04s)
looks like. Free on your next video.
[157:52] (9472.40s)
Interested. Best read on. And now that
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I'm actually thinking about it, this
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person's probably sent me another email
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before, which is probably why it reads
[157:58] (9478.00s)
like such trash. So, why don't I just
[157:59] (9479.92s)
search this up? Okay. Yeah. And I I did
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find the original emails. This one here.
[158:03] (9483.04s)
Most creators lose views in the first 60
[158:04] (9484.88s)
seconds. Um, literally the title is just
[158:08] (9488.40s)
collaboration idea. So, Nick, most
[158:10] (9490.88s)
creators lose viewers in the first 60
[158:12] (9492.64s)
seconds. Not because the content's bad,
[158:14] (9494.16s)
but because pacing is off. I fix that.
[158:15] (9495.76s)
Tighter edits, better emphasis, more
[158:17] (9497.12s)
watchable videos. Want a free sample
[158:18] (9498.48s)
edit of your next video? Best read on.
[158:20] (9500.88s)
What are we doing here? It's super
[158:22] (9502.00s)
short. That's nice. Short's nice. Um,
[158:24] (9504.80s)
it's given some free sample edit. Nice.
[158:27] (9507.68s)
A micro commitment. Well, I don't know.
[158:29] (9509.92s)
Want a free sample edit for my next
[158:31] (9511.20s)
video. What do I have to do in order to
[158:32] (9512.80s)
get this?
[158:34] (9514.48s)
They're not really making it clear. We
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don't even have a time constraint or
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anything. I don't think we have a micro
[158:38] (9518.80s)
commitment here. We actually have kind
[158:39] (9519.84s)
of a scary commitment. Social proof, no.
[158:42] (9522.40s)
Authority, no. Rapport, no. Scarcity,
[158:45] (9525.92s)
no. shared identity. No. So, all we
[158:48] (9528.08s)
really have first is the fact that they
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give and that's okay. All right. And
[158:51] (9531.52s)
then I'm not a fan of the subject line
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versus a collaboration idea. Not a fan.
[158:56] (9536.24s)
I mean like collaboration idea. Let me
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collab with you or something might be a
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little better. Why? Because it just
[159:01] (9541.92s)
sounds more human. And if you're sending
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to somebody that like has a fair amount
[159:04] (9544.96s)
going on, let me collab with you is
[159:06] (9546.24s)
totally a fair thing that some people
[159:07] (9547.52s)
may say. Another big issue here is
[159:09] (9549.92s)
everything's just w like it's like three
[159:11] (9551.68s)
lines in a row. You want some
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breathability. And then another one is
[159:15] (9555.20s)
um like why is this capitalized? And
[159:18] (9558.32s)
it's on the same line, but also most
[159:21] (9561.36s)
creators lose viewers in the first 60
[159:22] (9562.88s)
seconds. That's vague and that's
[159:24] (9564.56s)
general. I don't want you to give me an
[159:26] (9566.88s)
email newsletter that just is like most
[159:29] (9569.36s)
creators lose viewers in the first 60
[159:31] (9571.28s)
seconds. Not because the content is bad,
[159:33] (9573.20s)
but because the pacing is off. That
[159:34] (9574.80s)
reads like a TV commercial. I don't want
[159:36] (9576.40s)
a TV commercial. I want you talking to
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So, Nick, you are losing a tremendous
[159:43] (9583.04s)
number of viewers in the first 60
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seconds right now.
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Let me fix your watch time. Nick, you're
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losing a tremendous number of viewers in
[159:54] (9594.48s)
the first 60 seconds right now. Not
[159:56] (9596.24s)
because your content is bad. It's not.
[159:58] (9598.48s)
It rocks. But because your pacing is
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Will you let me fix that for you?
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I do XYZ
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X for
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you know, five mil subs.
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And can one shot deliver
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tighter edits,
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a tightly edited 60-second sequence for
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no strings,
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but I'd be happy to give you a free
[160:37] (9637.36s)
sample edit
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in around 48 hours. Just send me the raw
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the raw footage in a Google
[160:45] (9645.84s)
Drive link with sharing on and I'll
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with sharing on. Okay. Okay, cool. So,
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this rewrite isn't perfect.
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Happy to do this for you anytime this
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week. Okay, this email isn't perfect,
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but um let me fix your watch time. Nick,
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you're losing a tremendous number of
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viewers in the first 60 seconds right
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now. Not because your content is bad.
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It's not. It rocks, but because your
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pacing is off. Will you let me fix that
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for you? I do editing, you know. I edit
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for insert big name here at 5 mil subs
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and can one shot deliver a tightly
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edited 60-second sequence for you that
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is as good or even better. No strings,
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but I'd happy but I'd be happy to give
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you a free sample edit around 48 hours.
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Just send me the raw footage in a Google
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Drive link with sharing on. Happy to do
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this for you anytime this week. Best
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redo on. So, we're giving we have micro
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commitments. Just send me the raw
[161:38] (9698.24s)
footage. We're actually making it clear.
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We have a time constraint as well. We
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have social proof. We have some
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authority. We're not building a lot of
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rapport. Okay, aside from this line. So,
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I'd say like a five there. Scarcity is
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handled by happy to do this for you
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anytime this week. Then we also have uh
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some sense of shared identity and so far
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that I understand how this works. I also
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understand you know some YouTube
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terminology and stuff like that. It's
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not perfect. Maybe a.5 on on this end as
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well. Uh but still I mean you know for a
[162:04] (9724.16s)
really short punchy email this is about
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as good as you can get. Okay. And that
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takes me to probably like the big daddy
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one from um this fella Marissa or chick
[162:12] (9732.96s)
Marissa Concaid. I thought this was
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actually pretty good. And we also have a
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loom embed which I wanted to bring some
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attention to. You can do loom embeds and
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stuff like that. And uh just show you
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guys what that looks like because the
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format's a little bit different. So, I
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don't think I can actually Hold on a
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sec. Can I embed the loom? No, I can't
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embed the loom. It's kind of annoying.
[162:31] (9751.52s)
All right. Well, anyway, why don't we
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just leave this link in here and then um
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we'll worry about that after. But, uh
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yeah, um what it's saying is high
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stacked podcast, right? So, it's using,
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you know, stacked podcast, not the
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actual name. And that's unfortunate
[162:45] (9765.68s)
because you just know like if this
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wasn't bad um I might have actually
[162:49] (9769.36s)
thought this was a real one and I might
[162:50] (9770.88s)
have thought this was a real one because
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of this loom embed with like a person's
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face and then you know ultimately my
[162:55] (9775.68s)
YouTube channel. This is podcast I run
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with Jack. So high stacked podcast. I
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just watched your video about the AI
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crisis here and felt like I had to send
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this. I'm actually sending this on
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behalf of fellow creator at ZTH
[163:05] (9785.12s)
training. We got about a million
[163:06] (9786.16s)
followers on multiple platforms and our
[163:07] (9787.36s)
founder Harris is now helping other
[163:08] (9788.56s)
creators along with our team. We're
[163:10] (9790.40s)
confident we could help you make
[163:11] (9791.20s)
additional rev consistently by launching
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or scaling your online community or
[163:13] (9793.92s)
coaching program and growing your
[163:15] (9795.20s)
audience by 15 to 30k new people. I know
[163:17] (9797.52s)
it's a bold claim, but we've gotten
[163:18] (9798.56s)
proven results. We got millions of
[163:19] (9799.68s)
followers, made over seven figures from
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social media ourselves. Our other
[163:22] (9802.72s)
co-founder personally made a short video
[163:24] (9804.16s)
for you to say hello and go through how
[163:25] (9805.44s)
it works and ask me to send this message
[163:26] (9806.88s)
to you. Right. We've helped a multitude
[163:29] (9809.68s)
of other creators just like yourself and
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have multiple case studies. We're
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reaching out because we think we can do
[163:32] (9812.88s)
the same for you and you have a ton of
[163:34] (9814.00s)
value to provide your audience. And we
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do all of this on a complete
[163:36] (9816.80s)
resultsbased model, which means if you
[163:38] (9818.08s)
don't profit, we don't profit. You
[163:39] (9819.12s)
cannot lose. That's how much we believe
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in what we do. Would love to understand
[163:42] (9822.08s)
more about your goals with the channel
[163:43] (9823.20s)
for the future. Are you opposed to
[163:44] (9824.16s)
having a quick chat in the coming days
[163:45] (9825.28s)
so we could talk through this? Okay, so
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I mean like this could have been
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freaking awesome. But a few things here
[163:50] (9830.88s)
are really crushing it. Okay, so why
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don't I start by rating this? Um, does
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this give first? No, there's nothing
[163:56] (9836.96s)
here that gives. It's just a call. Are
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there micro commitments? No, we're just
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saying quick chat. Quick chat here is so
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vague in general. It could be 30
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minutes, could be an hour. If anything,
[164:05] (9845.44s)
you're taking my time.
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Um, social proof. Uh they have tons of
[164:09] (9849.60s)
social proof and they have tons of
[164:10] (9850.64s)
authority as well. Where's their
[164:12] (9852.40s)
rapport? Uh well, they kind of screwed
[164:14] (9854.08s)
that up. I mean, it could have been
[164:15] (9855.20s)
pretty good that they screwed that up.
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So, they don't have any of that. Um they
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don't have any scarcity and then they
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don't have any shared identity as well.
[164:23] (9863.92s)
Or actually, maybe they do have shared
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identity. They're trying to go for
[164:26] (9866.64s)
fellow creator, but I'll be honest,
[164:28] (9868.24s)
they're they're just they're trying so
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many different things. It's not working.
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So, I'm sending this on behalf of fellow
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creator. So, I'm not actually this
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person. Also, we have a founder named
[164:36] (9876.40s)
Harris. Also, our other coner asked me
[164:39] (9879.28s)
to send this message to you and they
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also made you a short video. I mean,
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there's like five million things going
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on here, right? So, this is a good
[164:44] (9884.88s)
example of an email that's too long as
[164:46] (9886.64s)
opposed to too short. And if they uh
[164:48] (9888.48s)
touch it up a little bit, it would
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perform significantly better. So, let me
[164:51] (9891.44s)
show you how I do this. So, first of
[164:53] (9893.12s)
all, obviously, we need to fix this. Um,
[164:55] (9895.60s)
you know, my recommendation is just like
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don't use naive data scraping techniques
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like this
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unless you are, you know, okay to lose a
[165:04] (9904.24s)
big chunk of the time. But um you know
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really behind
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just watched your vid on the AI crisis
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and felt like I had to send this to you.
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Okay, long story short, we've got about
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we've got around 1 million followers on
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multiple platforms.
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I work with podcasts
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platform. I work with podcasts like you
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very often. Your stuff is fantastic.
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I am extremely confident I could help
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you make additional revenue
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consistently.
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I and my team could help you make
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additional revenue consistently by
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launching or scaling your online
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community.
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an online community program group.
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I could also or we could also very
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easily grow your audience by 15 to 30k
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new people.
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I know it's a bold claim,
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but we've got proven results.
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many millions of followers and around
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seven figures
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from social media ourselves in the last
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I don't know month year
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and I think what I'd do is instead of
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leaving my offer all the way down to the
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bottom I'd probably stick it up at the
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top cuz it's going to be pretty long
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right so okay so long story short you
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got 1 million followers multiple work
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with podcast like you very often
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I want to give you 15 to 30k Okay.
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Followers.
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And I do this on an entirely results
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basis.
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Okay. I think I'd probably do this
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basis
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plus
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10 to 20K a month. And I do this for you
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on entirely results basis. I'm extremely
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confident I and my team could help you
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do this by a marketing your
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pod more effectively and b la la la la
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la la la la la la la la la la la la la
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la la la la la la la la la la la la la
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la la la la la la la la la launching
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growing an online community program
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group. Better to use the word growing
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than launching or scaling because it's
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clear when you use launching or scaling,
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you're trying to account for all
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possible options and this is a template.
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I know it's a bold claim.
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Our other co-owner personally made you
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My co-founder personally made you a
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short vid.
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Personally made you a short vid to say
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hello.
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Hello. Let's say to review stacks a bit
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and say hello. Linking it here for
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convenience.
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And I'm going to link it. Then down over
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here, I'll just cut all the stuff out.
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Cool.
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Are you opposed to having a quick chat
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in the coming days? So, what I'm going
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to do, are you opposed to having a quick
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I'm just going to say 15 to 30 men chat
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in the next
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few days so we could talk through this.
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I know you're on ET time. Can give you a
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ring at 3:30 p.m. today or tomorrow.
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Thanks, Peter. All right. So before, you
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know, 3 million miles long and the offer
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is all over the place. After, hi neck,
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just watched your vid on the AI crisis.
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Felt like I had to send this to you.
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Okay, long story short, we got 1 million
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followers on multiple platforms and I
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work with podcasts like you very often.
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Your stuff is fantastic, right? This is
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supposed justification for why I'm
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reaching out. I want to give you 15 to
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30k followers plus 10 to 20k a month. I
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do this for you on entirely results
[169:03] (10143.92s)
basis. I'm extremely confident I and my
[169:06] (10146.32s)
team could help do this by a marketing
[169:07] (10147.84s)
your pod more effectively pod instead of
[169:09] (10149.92s)
podcast and b growing an online
[169:11] (10151.84s)
community program group. I know it's a
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bold claim but we got proven results
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many millions of followers and around
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seven figs from social media ourselves
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in the last year. My co-founder
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personally made you a short vid to
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review stacked a bit and say hello
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linking it here for convenience. Are you
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opposed to having a 15 to 30 minute chat
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in the next few days so we can talk
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through this? I know you're on ET time.
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Can you give you a ring at 3:30 p.m.
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today or tomorrow? Thanks Peter. So what
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is this doing? It's giving. We have
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small micro commitments. We have lots of
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social proof and authority. We're
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building rapport. Now, we have uh not a
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lot of scarcity, but we do have a fair
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amount of shared identity. The way you'd
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add scarcity to something like this is
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you'd probably mention how you're, I
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don't know, currently in talks with a
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few other podcasts or something like
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that. And because this is a very long
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email, that's actually somewhat
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believable. By the time somebody makes
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it down here, they're like, "Okay, I
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mean, this person's obviously done a lot
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of work with the video." Alternatively,
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you might actually include that section
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there offhand as a comment in the video.
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um probability that somebody watches the
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video is lower than the probability that
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somebody reads the email, but it's still
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pretty good. Okay, cool. Hopefully you
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guys have learned everything to do with
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just how to take a shitty email and then
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turn it into a better one. As you see,
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we employ the four-step framework
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basically every time. Um, the rewrites
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on net are a little bit longer, but they
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also make use of generalized statements
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and cold reading to really like imply or
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explicitly state that like we know who
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you are and I've been following you for
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a while and I like you and I I have
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pretty established relationship with
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you. We're knocking literally all of
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these out of the park and we're doing it
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across a variety of different offers,
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services, um, industries and so on and
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so forth. So, that makes me pretty happy
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because we've actually made it through
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most of the course already. All we need
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to do now is chat about specific
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platforms, then do subject lines, full
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obsiterations, talk a little bit about
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AI before discussing advanced outbound
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techniques.
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All right, so next up, I want to talk
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about all of the different types of cold
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outbound and how every platform will
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vary just a little bit compared to the
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other. Obviously, I've been doing a lot
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of cold email so far, and cold email is
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great. So, we're going to start out with
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that, and I'll enumerate all the
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different levers you could pull. Once
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I'm done with that, I also want to cover
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things like LinkedIn. I want to cover X.
[171:09] (10269.12s)
I want to cover Instagrams. So I want to
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cover iMes and SMSs and so on and so
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forth. Okay? And in that way you guys
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will have full granular insights into
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how to optimize messaging across all of
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these. So you can take the four-step
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copyrightiting framework that I've shown
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you and you can squeeze it either into
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significantly fewer characters or expand
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it into significantly more. Okay. So
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first thing here is I have uh you know
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like some cold emails that people have
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sent me and I was just looking at one by
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this fellow Malik fella or chick. Not
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entirely sure. And literally just just
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putting this first and foremost, I just
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want you guys to take a look at what
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we're seeing here.
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If you were like a robot and you were
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tasked with optimizing my cold email and
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if I were Malik Smoon, what are all of
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the different parts of the email at
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every part along the customer journey
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that you would look at?
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So the very first thing that you would
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look at if we are being pragmatic and we
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are is their name. And so their name is
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a signal, okay,
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that you can use and take advantage of.
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It's a space, I think up to like 20
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characters or something like that. As
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you see, some other people's names are a
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little bit longer. This gives off some
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information to me as somebody that is
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considering communicating or accepting
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some sort of outreach with this person.
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You know, it might communicate to me
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where they're from. It might communicate
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to me their business name or their email
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address, right? Might communicate
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whether the sort of person that likes
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signing off just as Malik or Malik Smoon
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first name last. You know, there are
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variety of different strategies and
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thoughts here. In general, I recommend
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just writing your first name and your
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last name. If it's something that you
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think would be kind of scary or
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intimidating the person, then obviously
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find a way to like reject it. But this
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is literally the first piece of
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information that people will look at.
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And so what I'm going to do, okay, is I
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will make a comprehensive document here
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called all of the different things you
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can optimize for your outbound. And I
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want you to know that I optimize all of
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these things. I don't just do the actual
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body of the email. I do everything.
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Okay? So we'll start with cold emails.
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And as mentioned, the very first thing
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you can optimize right off the bat, not
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even looking at at at anything else
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here, is the name of the sender, Sander.
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and it's around 20 characters. Okay, so
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the very first thing you can do is you
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can optimize the name of the person. I
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personally recommend always adding like
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a full name or something like that.
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Moving over to the right here, the next
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major thing you can optimize, as you
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guys can see, is the actual subject line
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of the email. So, variety of different
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strategies here. As you see, event in
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maker school, that was a piece of
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outreach. Quick collab, that was a piece
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of outreach. This is a newsletter that I
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sent, the simplest way to scale past
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your income ceiling. There are a variety
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of different like ways and strategies
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and things you can do here. Hopefully,
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I've shown you that typically the key
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with a subject line is writing something
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that a friend might have sent you,
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something that was like informal,
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something that's somewhat casual, and
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something that like inspires a little
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bit of plausible deniability. Hey, do I
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know this guy? I'm like, hm, I feel like
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I've heard of that name before, right?
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Um, and then finding a way to write it
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in such a way that it also makes sense
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with the rest of this, which uh which
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I'll cover in a second. Okay, so first
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you have uh the ability to change the
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name of the sender. You have the ability
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to change. I don't know why the hell
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that's so different. I don't like that
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at all. Let's do that. The subject. Oh,
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I don't like that either. I don't know
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what's going on with my sizing here.
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Okay. All right. I see. I'm being kind
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of silly. I wrote them all as as heading
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number threes. Anyway, um name of the
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sender, the subject line, and I' I'd
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give you like a character cut off here,
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but the subject line and the teaser
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actually interact. Um and then the
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teaser. So, this is the subject line
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over here, everything in white. this
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over here on the right which is sort of
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in like darker white or gray um is the
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first I don't know like combined it's
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something like 150 characters or so this
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also changes depending on which um
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specific platform that you're on but you
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know in my case quick ID in your daily
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strategy content hey Nick sorry you're
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shifting to sharing daily strategy and
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the way you just think out loud wild dot
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dot dot this is being truncated at
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approximately 150 characters so what
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that means is combined you know if your
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subject line is shorter you'll have more
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room in your teaser you know if your
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subject line is a lot longer you'll have
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less room in your teaser. It also means
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things like this, okay, tend to impact
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um how much of the email that you
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actually end up reading. And so this is
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sort of like an automatic thing that
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email platforms will typically put in.
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It's like a front matter for the email
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on Tuesday, March 17th, on Tuesday 17th
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of March and so on and so forth. If you
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can find ways to eliminate all
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unnecessary characters, then you can
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usually add significantly more uh text
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and and stuff like that. I think in this
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case, this is just what occurs when your
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email is short. So, at minimum, you
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typically want your email to be at least
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150 characters or so. If it's shorter
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than that, you're just going to end up
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with a bunch of blank white space, which
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looks silly. Okay, so the teaser. So,
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this subject line is probably going to
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be somewhere between like 30 to 50
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characters. This over here is going to
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be somewhere between like 50 to 100
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characters. Any unused space in your
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subject line and teaser gets filled with
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uh metadata, which is just like the time
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information on Tuesday, March 19th,
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whatever. So, what that means is there's
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no reason not to send the entire total
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number of characters. I wrote 148 down
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here. That's how much I uh test it on
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for that top email, but I want you to
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know that like sometimes that'll vary.
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You know, if people zoom in and zoom out
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and stuff like that, obviously that's
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different. On average, um people are
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going to have about the same screen size
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as me. Um so, yeah, you you'll be
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looking somewhere around 148 150
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characters. So, that is just before you
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even click into the freaking email
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itself. That's all the different things
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you can optimize for. Most people only
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know one of those and that's the subject
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line. But you can get really creative
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and you can use the subject line in
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conjunction with the teaser and the name
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of the sender to make some really cool
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campaigns um happen. Okay. Anyway, now
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once I click on this email, we see a lot
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of the same information restated. Okay.
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But then we have some more as well. So
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what do we have up here at the top? We
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obviously have the subject line, right?
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Also, what do we have underneath? We
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have the name. But then if you think
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about it, we have something new. We
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actually have the email address as well.
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So, that's one. Over here, we have the
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profile pick. That's two. People will
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judge you based off of all of this.
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There's obviously the recency of the
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email. Okay, I'm not going to add that
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as three, but it is technically three.
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Um, whether they're internal or external
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to your organization. You typically
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don't have control over that, but I'm,
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you know, that's another point to be
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made. So, just going back to our list
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here, you have your profile picture.
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Okay.
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You also have the email address of the
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sender. And these are all things that
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just again they give me information
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about you. And these are things that
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people are either consciously or
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subconsciously always evaluating all of
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your emails on before we even get into
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the copy. Notice that we've literally
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looked at like five or or six different
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things now. Obviously on top of that you
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have the email body itself. Right?
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And the reason why I'm enumerating all
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this stuff is just because you know I
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want you to be able to very granularly
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improve the quality of your cold emails
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um as well as all other outreach. And
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because you'll notice that cold emails
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have different parameters here versus
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something like let's say LinkedIn
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messages which I'm going to talk with
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you about um in a moment. And so you
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know the strategy on outbound in general
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when you're writing messages to try and
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convince strangers to give you money is
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you'll make use of those six or seven um
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psychological principles and then you'll
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convert that into like a good strong
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piece of outbound with those four rules.
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And then what you'll do is you'll just
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like you'll basically syndicate it. So
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that same piece of copy will look a
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specific way for cold email, but it'll
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look a slightly different way for um SMS
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and it'll look a slightly different way
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for LinkedIn. And what you're doing is
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you're just massaging it into the
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various shapes of all of these different
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platforms. All right, so that is cold
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email in a nutshell. And I want you guys
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to know if you're ever curious or you
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don't know how to make your cold emails
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pop or whatever and you've been banging
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your head against the wall just
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wondering what the hell you could do,
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you know, just go top to bottom through
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this. Ask yourself, is this the best
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name? Is this the best subject line? Is
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this the best teaser? Is this the best
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profile picture? Is this the best email
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address? Is this the best email body?
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And as long as you have all of that
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information, okay, then you can do a
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pretty good job. Even if you're not
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necessarily good at any one individual
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one of these, if you just combine the
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entire thing into like a nice coherent
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package, then for all intents and
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purposes, you're probably going to be
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all right. Okay. Next up, how about
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LinkedIn? Obviously, people are going to
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be evaluating you on slightly different
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things on LinkedIn. Let me give you guys
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an actual look at what that looks like.
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So here for just for all intents and
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purposes, I'm um I'm in my other inbox
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as opposed to my focused one. I just
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have tons of people like responding to
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my giveaways and stuff here. And uh
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being in this inbox to begin with is
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kind of an issue, right? Like uh you
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know, this one was sent like eight years
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ago. I have literally haven't looked it
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in eight whole years, nine years, I
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guess. So the goal is just not to be
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here at all to be clear. But anyway, if
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you're writing some sort of outbound
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like this fellow Jordan is, what are
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some things that I'm immediately
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evaluating on? And actually before I
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even get in there, okay, let me just
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give this um give this a click and then
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we can look at Jordan's top to bottom.
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Literally before I even get in there,
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okay, what am I evaluating him on? I'm
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evaluating him on the profile picture
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itself. And so that is sort of priority
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number one.
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Then I'm evaluating him on his name,
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which appears twice. We have the first
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name. You'll notice that the longer the
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first name is, the more characters it
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takes of their teaser. You notice how
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Jordan over here might be three
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characters and this ends up uh uh
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closing right around here. Well, if his
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name was four characters, Nicholas would
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have been pushed back. And so the
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shorter the first init the first part of
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your name, the bigger the ROI basically
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for your LinkedIn teaser, which means
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you can actually fit more in there.
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Okay. Now, just out of curiosity, how
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many characters is this? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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space 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
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20 21. This is going to be somewhere
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between 53 to maybe 55 characters, I'd
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imagine. Uh because not every one of
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these characters takes up the exact same
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amount of space. And this is likely
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gated by pixels. So what that means is
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you have uh the teaser which is
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somewhere between 50 to maybe 55 cars.
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Okay, so these are all things again that
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like people just they they just don't
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realize are all factors that I am going
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to be taking into account as I evaluate
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you. Now, what are some highle rules?
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Don't waste this teaser space and make
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sure your profile pick just shows you
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ideally smiling in nice lighting like
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this Jordan guy does. Despite the fact
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that this guy's in my other mailbox and
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I haven't looked at his message in like,
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you know, 9 years or whatever. Kudos to
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whoever helped you design your profile
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picture or just yourself, Jordan,
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because this blue background around the
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outside with with the white um backdrop
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and then your head like this stands out
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and this looks really professional.
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Contrast that with this lady Sharon here
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who's, you know, kind of a little bit
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more drawn back and there isn't a lot of
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like difference between her foreground
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and then background. Okay, so literally
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before I've even clicked on this, here
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are all of the things that uh that I've
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considered and applied.
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Once I've clicked on it though, you
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notice that this window changes
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significantly. Now we have way more
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context. Okay. And so let's actually
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just go into all that context. Let me
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just zoom in here and then see what we
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have access to. The very first thing
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that we see is obviously their name,
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which we've already kind of looked at
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before. So that's not new information.
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The second thing we see though is we see
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their title. And so their title is
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actually a piece of information that
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affects my uh perception of who this
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person is. And so as you can see here,
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you got fair number of characters. Um, 1
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2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
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18 19 20 4 5 6 7 8 30.
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And it looks to me like you're going to
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have something like 50 to 60 or so
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characters on the title as well. So in
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here, we'll say the title,
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the job title, and that's going to be
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somewhere between like maybe 50 to 60
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characters as well. Okay. Immediately
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underneath all of this, we have the
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profile picture again. Then we have
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them. And then as you'll notice, we have
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in brackets some sort of badge. So if
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they have a LinkedIn premium, this will
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be gold. So what does that logically
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mean? If you want to maximize the
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outreach that you are sending, you will
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want a badge like that. Why? It just
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makes you stand out. And so we'll have a
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LinkedIn premium badge. If I go back
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over here and actually give Jordan a
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click, you see this HubSpot elite
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partner first. This is because he's
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basically part of HubSpot's elite
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solutions partner program. And because
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of this, he uses this as sort of like a
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piece of of credential. It just makes
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him stand out more. Keep in mind, this
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is just like this is more authority
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stuff. Um, oh, cool. He's in Vancouver.
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That's nice. All right. So, then he has
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basically what I'm going to call
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credential. And I don't know how many
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characters this is. I feel like this is
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going to vary. Um, I think he could
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probably have more if he wanted to, but
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I'm not going to put that in there. And
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then obviously he has the time of the
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message and then the uh body itself. So
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over here is going to be body. Okay. and
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we'll just say message body and then
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we'll say his credentials. So this looks
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pretty good to me. I mean nice job on
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this message Jordan. Um just evaluating
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it at its merits. Thanks for connecting.
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So clearly it's some connect message
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driven flow. We find our clients the top
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performing sales management candidates
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across NA. Best of all we give you a
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guarantee on placements of the 12 full
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months. Um you know I'm not really a big
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fan of how he pitched all this stuff. I
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am seeing he has a masters of science.
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I'm wondering if he could have put his
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masters of science somewhere around
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here. Typically speaking, people with
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master's degrees and stuff like that are
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just taken more seriously than people
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that don't have them. And that takes us
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to X. So, I don't actually use X
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anymore, but I know a lot of people are
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sending uh DMs and stuff like that with
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this. So, I'm just going to create some
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BS passcode. And then I'm just going to
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go onto another account, then send
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myself a DM just so I can see what that
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looks like. Okay. And it actually looks
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like I have an account set up here.
[184:32] (11072.48s)
That's hilarious. Um anyway, so what
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I'll do, I'll go to chat. And
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apparently, I sent a message to this guy
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on this X account from like God knows
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how many years ago. But I really like
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this fell's music. So, big shout out to
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uh to Away. Anyway, I just want to send
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this now to myself. So, this is going to
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be Nick Sarif. And it doesn't look like
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I can send to him. Why is this? I don't
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really know. Do I need to follow myself
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or something? Okay. And I'm just going
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to say, "Hey, Nick, what's going on my
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brother from another mother?" Okay,
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cool. We just sent him a message. Uh
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probably from the same mother. And as
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you can see here, now we have this um
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new thing open up. Wow, that is so funny
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that I that I wrote that. Uh but
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basically, you know, when somebody
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follows you, obviously you're going to
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get a notification, but then you have
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the chat. So, what happens is when you
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click on the chat immediately, okay,
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just like we had with LinkedIn, kind of
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the very first thing we're realistically
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seeing is we're going to see the profile
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pick. After that, as you guys could see,
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we have the full name, and that on X
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might not actually be the full name
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because not a lot of people use their
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full names. So, I think that's worth um
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keeping uh in mind. After that, we have
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a little teaser. And you notice the
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teaser is significantly shorter than a
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fulllength teaser on LinkedIn. If I had
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to count this, and I will, that'll be 5,
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20, probably somewhere around 45 to 50
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or so. So then we have the teaser and
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that's somewhere between 40 to 55 cares.
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And then you also have obviously the
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time of the message and then the fact
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that you haven't clicked on it yet. But
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that mark on red stuff is sort of the
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same on all platforms. So I'm just going
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to take it for granted. Take it for
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granted. I'm going to take it as a
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given. Zooming a little bit in here now,
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you get some more information you didn't
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get before. Obviously, you have the
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profile picture, the full name, then you
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get the full name again, and then over
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here, which is interesting, which is
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new, is you get their tag. And so, if
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they have a silly tag, a tag that
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doesn't actually make much sense to you,
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then obviously that tag is going to be
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discordant with the rest of their
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outreach, right? In this case, Nick
[186:20] (11180.16s)
Wells Wells, I don't know, it just
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doesn't look as legit. I also don't have
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a profile picture, obviously, since this
[186:23] (11183.68s)
is an old ass thing. But yeah, so I'm
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just going to say your X tag/handle.
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And then you also have the join date,
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which is pretty important. So if
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somebody is spinning up a bunch of these
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accounts to send a bunch of DMs to
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people like over and over and over
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again, obviously you'll know because
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it'll say joined literally five freaking
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minutes ago. And uh I just, you know, I
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think that's a problem. Obviously,
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you're going to want like aged X
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accounts if you're going to want to
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scale this sort of stuff. Okay. After
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that, you obviously have the message
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body itself. And um yeah, the message
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body can go I don't know how long. So
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why don't we just test this out?
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Let's see what happens when we send
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I don't know, 30 of these or so.
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Sending all this over. This is pretty
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long, right?
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It looks like we get the entire chat all
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literally within the body. So, I don't
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know how many characters this is, but
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all of that is not um truncated
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whatsoever. You also have the ability to
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send gifts. Gifts can be pretty cool.
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Although, I think they have to be
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verified followers. I feel like if
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they're in your request, you can't send
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a gift. Um so, keep that in mind.
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That's kind of funny considering all the
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BS that I just sent him. Um, and yeah, I
[187:32] (11252.48s)
mean like that's most of the information
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in general. Um, messages on X tend to be
[187:36] (11256.48s)
significantly more casual and more
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formal. Uh, especially versus like
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LinkedIn, but LinkedIn and email tend to
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be pretty similar in tone of voice. You
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know, like a lot of people pretend
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they're like big corporate bigs on on
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LinkedIn and that's not necessarily
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always. So, uh, you can break out of
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that sort of pattern interrupt by
[187:51] (11271.60s)
sending um, you know, shorter, more
[187:53] (11273.28s)
informal casual DMs. But generally, you
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know, you don't want to really offend uh
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I don't know, some corporate person on
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LinkedIn versus on X, like it's sort of
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given and taken for granted that you'll
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write probably in lowercase. You'll
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probably make use of little emojis here
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or there. You'll be a little bit more
[188:08] (11288.00s)
sarcastic and funny and so on. Okay. And
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that takes me to Instagram. Um just
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heading over here to the messages tab.
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As you can see here, we got tons of
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different messages and that's cuz the
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account is uh massive. Unfortunately, I
[188:19] (11299.76s)
also don't know how to stop that from
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popping up.
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Okay. So, yeah, you know, we get we get
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a lot and wow, I'm realizing I need to
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get back to a bunch of people here.
[188:27] (11307.60s)
Sorry about that, everybody that hasn't.
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Um, I just want like a conversation with
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somebody where they're obviously trying
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to pitch me. So, I think I'm probably
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going to go to requests here and then
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Okay, yeah, this is perfect. So, we'll
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get credit boost 777. So, first of all,
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both X and um Instagram actually make
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use of message requests as you saw
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LinkedIn also does as well. It's just
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the LinkedIn message requests um are
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significantly less likely to happen. And
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so most of the time on X or Instagram,
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you're going to be in a message request
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box. So keep that in mind. This occurs
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just because your profiles aren't really
[188:58] (11338.64s)
warm. You don't have pre-exist
[188:59] (11339.68s)
connections with people. And so you're
[189:00] (11340.64s)
going to have to fight around that.
[189:01] (11341.44s)
That's the big that's the big drop. But
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anyway, assuming that uh you know,
[189:04] (11344.80s)
you're actually doing this. Good God, I
[189:06] (11346.32s)
have a lot of tabs open now. Assuming
[189:08] (11348.56s)
you're actually doing this like one at a
[189:10] (11350.00s)
time. Um first thing is obviously your
[189:12] (11352.32s)
profile picture, right?
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Immediately after you also have the
[189:17] (11357.12s)
handle which can be the full name if
[189:20] (11360.24s)
they want it to but a lot of people like
[189:21] (11361.68s)
credit boost 777 or man or deuce right
[189:25] (11365.20s)
they don't actually use their full name
[189:26] (11366.80s)
Ben Sloinsky clearly did kudos to him
[189:28] (11368.72s)
for that um this right over here is I
[189:32] (11372.08s)
think around 35 to 40 characters or so
[189:35] (11375.60s)
maybe 30 characters or so that's 10 so
[189:39] (11379.20s)
yeah this is right about 30 characters
[189:40] (11380.72s)
or so before it gets truncated
[189:43] (11383.20s)
say teaser which is 30 cares
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And then obviously you have the the time
[189:46] (11386.80s)
that it was sent to. If you click in on
[189:48] (11388.32s)
this, you have the profile picture, you
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have the handle, you have the handle
[189:51] (11391.52s)
again. Um I think the name can actually
[189:53] (11393.44s)
be different from the handle, which is
[189:54] (11394.64s)
why there are two. Then you also have
[189:55] (11395.84s)
the platform because some people will
[189:56] (11396.96s)
send messages from like Facebook or
[189:58] (11398.40s)
whatever. And just opening up a few more
[190:00] (11400.08s)
of these. Notice how this is their first
[190:02] (11402.00s)
name, Deuce, and this is deuce.creative.
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Same thing with uh I don't know, Mike
[190:05] (11405.92s)
over here, Mike MJ, but his handle's
[190:07] (11407.68s)
technically Mike MJ_7. I don't think I
[190:10] (11410.16s)
have any from Facebook, but keep in mind
[190:11] (11411.36s)
that I think you can you can send from
[190:12] (11412.80s)
that. Okay. And then finally, um, just
[190:15] (11415.44s)
looking at the actual message body
[190:17] (11417.20s)
itself, we see that you have that
[190:19] (11419.60s)
message body, too. And, uh, from there
[190:21] (11421.92s)
on out, you know, I can either accept,
[190:24] (11424.08s)
delete, or block. All right. And then
[190:25] (11425.52s)
finally, we have our, um, iMessage,
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which is a way that a lot of people are
[190:30] (11430.00s)
communicating. Slot this in for text
[190:31] (11431.68s)
message as necessary. Although, note
[190:33] (11433.44s)
that if you're not on iMessage, you're
[190:34] (11434.72s)
not going to get a cute little blue
[190:35] (11435.84s)
bubble, which is typically how people
[190:37] (11437.12s)
like sending messages. Um, you know,
[190:39] (11439.44s)
anybody with a lot of money typically
[190:40] (11440.72s)
has an iPhone. And I don't say this cuz
[190:42] (11442.08s)
I think Androids suck or whatever.
[190:43] (11443.28s)
There's also some cultural differences
[190:44] (11444.40s)
there, but yeah, in general, that's what
[190:45] (11445.84s)
it's like. Now, I'm doing this on my
[190:47] (11447.36s)
computer, which does look a little bit
[190:48] (11448.56s)
different from my phone, but just for
[190:49] (11449.84s)
limitations of not wanting to put my
[190:51] (11451.60s)
phone up. Um, this is what it kind of
[190:53] (11453.20s)
looks like. Okay, so we have the profile
[190:54] (11454.56s)
picture as mentioned. Then you have the
[190:55] (11455.76s)
phone number, and then obviously you
[190:56] (11456.72s)
have a teaser. Now, the teaser here is
[190:58] (11458.64s)
like the actual body of the message. So,
[191:00] (11460.40s)
and then just taking a look at this, I
[191:01] (11461.76s)
just pasted this into um Cloud Code, and
[191:04] (11464.00s)
it told me it was 91 characters,
[191:05] (11465.52s)
including whites space. So, you also
[191:07] (11467.76s)
have the message
[191:10] (11470.08s)
teaser which is around 90 characters or
[191:13] (11473.84s)
so. And so, like when you get spam
[191:15] (11475.76s)
messages like this, hi, hope uh you know
[191:19] (11479.92s)
I'm not interrupting. Would you have
[191:21] (11481.20s)
some time to talk? Like this one here,
[191:23] (11483.44s)
you know, like this is the entire
[191:24] (11484.96s)
message and it's all totally within the
[191:26] (11486.96s)
teaser. Um, realistically, I can make
[191:29] (11489.12s)
the decision on whether or not I want to
[191:31] (11491.20s)
engage with this message without
[191:32] (11492.40s)
actually even clicking it. So if I'm
[191:33] (11493.92s)
sending some sort of like SMS campaign
[191:35] (11495.52s)
or something like that, whether it's
[191:36] (11496.56s)
outbound or inbound, um you know, like I
[191:38] (11498.64s)
generally speaking will want to write
[191:39] (11499.92s)
messages that are at least as long as
[191:41] (11501.44s)
the entire thing. So I would go probably
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like a time a time and a half or so as
[191:46] (11506.00s)
long. And then what I would probably
[191:47] (11507.36s)
want to do is I want to bury some
[191:48] (11508.48s)
plausible deniability right over here.
[191:50] (11510.08s)
Something that's like interesting or
[191:51] (11511.12s)
engaging so that people at least feel
[191:52] (11512.72s)
like they have to click the message in
[191:53] (11513.84s)
order to read the rest. Anyway, aside
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from that, you obviously have the phone
[191:57] (11517.28s)
number, you have the uh what where it's
[191:59] (11519.84s)
coming from. So this is an SMS, not an
[192:01] (11521.28s)
iMessage. And then you have the the
[192:02] (11522.48s)
message body itself. And then what's
[192:04] (11524.08s)
really cool about this is there's just
[192:05] (11525.28s)
like three or four different ways that
[192:06] (11526.32s)
you could do this. You could go photos,
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stickers, image playground, images,
[192:09] (11529.04s)
message effects. There like a couple of
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different things that iMes can do to
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each other that um others can't. Okay,
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so I go through this just because I want
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you guys to know there are a lot more
[192:17] (11537.52s)
levers to pull than you probably think.
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You know, look, I don't think most
[192:20] (11540.40s)
people realize that the name of the
[192:21] (11541.60s)
sender could make an impact. I don't
[192:23] (11543.04s)
think they realize that like the
[192:24] (11544.32s)
LinkedIn premium badge was something you
[192:25] (11545.92s)
could play around with, the X tag or
[192:27] (11547.36s)
handle, the join date, the body. Um, I
[192:29] (11549.52s)
do this a lot for Upwork within Maker
[192:31] (11551.20s)
School. Like people don't realize, but
[192:32] (11552.48s)
basically there's like 30 different
[192:33] (11553.92s)
sections that you can add information
[192:35] (11555.28s)
and add value. And one of the simplest
[192:36] (11556.96s)
ways to make money on that platform is
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just add information to literally
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everything. Um, what I'm going to do
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next is I'm just going to provide some
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really highle advice for each one of
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these. Obviously for cold emails, it was
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any unused space in your subject line
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and teaser gets filled with metadata. So
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aim for 150 characters. For LinkedIn,
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it's have a professional corporate
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profile picture and get premium
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plus some certifications to add more
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to the top of your message body and also
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decrease the probability of landing in
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the other mailbox. On Axe, the whole
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game is making it out of requests. Aside
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from that, write casually in the same
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tov that most other X users use.
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Similarly on Instagram, the whole game
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is going to be making it out of message
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requests. Aside from that, writing
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casually the same TV that most other ex
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users use. Then on iMessage, fill out
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the entire teaser. Do not Oh, and then
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insert something provocative right near
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the end to ensure a click. Although to
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be honest, you could probably do that
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same highle piece of advice everywhere.
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So, I'm just going to do that.
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All right. Now that we're done with
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specific platforms, why don't we chat a
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little bit about subject lines,
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follow-ups, and then iterating
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specifically like what makes a good
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subject line? Because I think there's a
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lot of misunderstanding around good
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subjects. So, what I'm going to do is
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I'll just show you some examples of bad
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subjects.
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And what I'm going to do is actually
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literally go through my email inbox and
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then just find a few. and then I'll be
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able to tell you why. So, what are some
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bad subjects? This whole thing is
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basically a graveyard of bad subject
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lines, to be honest. Um, this is
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actually a good one, believe it or not.
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Uh, and I think the person's not a spam
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bot, so great great work here. But stuff
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like interested in AI driven performance
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optimization. I mean, that is weak, man.
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Super weak. So, I'm going to add that to
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my list.
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Video editor, weak as hell. I mean,
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there's nothing here that's custom.
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There's nothing here that begs the
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question. Stuff that's too long, like
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Nikki scaled to 72K a month with
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automation. Here's the next level. O,
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that's rough. Definitely don't want
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that. And then stuff that's like
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literally no subject is definitely not
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necessary and it's not something that
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you want. Um, always make sure to add
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some sort of subject to your email.
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Okay, so I'm going to talk about why in
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a second, but let's now chat about good
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subjects. What are some great subject
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lines that I've received? So tangential
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mentions of things that I would only
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know if um you know I watched your
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content is great. Your cloud code course
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and a formatting thought, hey, your
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cloud code course is great, but every
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time I paste AI text in a Gmail, this is
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like the worst part of it. It's the
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teaser, but the subject itself is pretty
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great. This 2026 capital is pretty good.
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Um this one here from Marco is great.
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Why? because I mean it's there's some
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minor grammatical mistakes here and it
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looks poorly formatted enough to make me
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think it's human but it's also quite
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endearing and um in general people like
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that sort of thing. This one from Ben
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Crrame is interesting. He's reaching out
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to me to try and sell me cold email.com
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1 mil cash is structured up to 12
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months. Um what's really neat about this
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is notice how his subject's really
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short. That means we get the teaser
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fully laid out. Um so that that's pretty
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neat. Uh Nick plus YouTube is a pretty
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cool one. one of your videos said would
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have been a really good one if they
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didn't misspell it. Uh, left clicks
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blind spot. That would have been good.
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Um, I think realistically if you just
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change this that's actually a really
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good subject line. It was just like
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Nick's blind spot. That would crush. Um,
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okay. So, what makes a good subject line
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versus a bad subject line? Well,
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basically the entire point of the
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subject line, and I just want you guys
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to drill this in your head right now, is
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something called plausible deniability.
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So, when you send a subject, and this
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also kind of goes for teasers,
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the idea is not to tell them everything
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about your email up front because if you
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did, they wouldn't even need to click on
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your email to see the rest. The whole
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idea is you just want to play a little
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game with them and be clever. You want
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to give them enough information to
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peique their curiosity, but not enough
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that you can answer the question and
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fully satisfy their need without them
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giving the email a whole click. And so
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one of the simplest and lows hanging
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fruit in like a good email campaign is
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just not writing um a subject and a
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teaser that answers the question uh you
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know who the hell is this and why should
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I care. Instead what you want is you
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want to have your personalization be in
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the subject line and then in the teaser.
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And then in order for the person to
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answer the next logical question aside
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from you know obviously the first answer
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is is this spam? Is this not spam?
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That's how the fourstep framework works.
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Um the second question they're going to
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ask is okay so who is this and why do I
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give a [ __ ] Well, they need to actually
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click the email in order to answer that.
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And so the whole game is plausible
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deniability. You actually want to play
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around with them and you want them to
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think maybe you aren't even a c a
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prospect. Maybe you aren't even somebody
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trying to sell them at all. Maybe you're
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not even a salesperson. Maybe you're
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like their long-lost cousin. Maybe
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you're somebody they went to school
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with. Maybe you're somebody that wants
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to give them money. You want to buy
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their business. Maybe you're somebody
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that wants to invite them to a podcast.
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You know, maybe you're somebody that
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like has been watching their stuff and
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just has a friendly comment. Maybe
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you're somebody who your content or your
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posts or something about you has
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resonated so much with them that it
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changed their life. Like the whole idea
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is not to sell in the subject line. You
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do not sell in the subject line. What
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you do is you just get plausible
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deniability to buy the click. So subject
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lines, they do not sell. And if you find
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yourself selling at all in the subject
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line, you're doing something wrong. So
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the reason why these are bad subjects is
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because it just gives away the whole
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thing, right? So, a quick idea on your
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daily strategy content. Um, I mean, like
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this would need to be very hypersp
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specific in order for daily strategy
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content to make any sense whatsoever.
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Quick collab, question mark. This is
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better because collaboration is sort of
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like an open term. But, um, the fact
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that there's zero personalization thrown
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in here and it just it just says quick
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collab, quick this, quick that.
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Literally, the word quick here is the
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problem. You know, if I'm reaching out
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to somebody and I poured my heart and
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soul into something, like, I'm not going
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to say quick. I'm just going to sit down
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and tell you what the hell it is. And
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that's what we're trying to pattern
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match for, right? Trying to pattern
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match for the appearance of 1:1
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personalized coms. Can you double this
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week? I don't know what the hell that
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means. Probably not. Interested in
[198:47] (11927.84s)
AIdriven performance optimization. This
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is actually an okay one, although I have
[198:51] (11931.68s)
bundled this in bad. And the reason why
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is because they just like AI is very
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clearly an acronym and anybody in the
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industry does not say AI. They they all
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say AI. So, if you're going to like play
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around with some sort of like, you know,
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hook like interested in adri performance
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optimization and then try and pretend to
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me that like you're a customer or
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somebody they might want to buy, but
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then you you don't actually spell the
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the thing right. I'm just not going to
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take you seriously. Video editor. Uh,
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this doesn't work because I've just
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received a billion of these so far. And
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then it's very clear that you're
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pitching me for video editing services.
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Nick, you scaled a 72K month with
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automation. Here's the next level. This
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doesn't work. Why? Because it's just
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selling me blatantly. No subject. I mean
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like this can work but in general no
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subject is correlated with like spam
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emails and scams. So um you know I
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wouldn't have no subject basically ever.
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I always have a subject line of some
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kind. The idea is you want to make it
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seem like it was a pretty low loweffort
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and or something that's
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hyperpersonalized. So your claude co
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your claude code course and a formatting
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thought. This is like lowercase which
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implies to me that this is like a real
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person, right? Even if it's not. And
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then you know it's a formatting thought.
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This person's giving me some
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information. They're also asking me
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about my claude course. probably
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something that they would only know if
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they'd actually gone through and watched
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it. Um 2026 capital. This could mean a
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million things. This could mean somebody
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like investing in my business, which is
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just so naturally interesting. Want to
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buy you, right? Like that's cool. Uh of
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course I'm going to give that a click
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because who knows, maybe they're going
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to give me an offer so good I can't
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refuse. Been with you from the start. I
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really like this one because nobody
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would write start that way. So kudos to
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you, Marco, for that. I clicked the hell
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out of that. Nick's blind spot, as
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mentioned a moment ago, um is pretty
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interesting because assuming your teaser
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doesn't just give away the whole potato.
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That's not a That's not an idiom at all.
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But assuming it doesn't just give it all
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away, then uh you know, I'm gonna want
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to click it to see what the hell is my
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blind spot. Generally, subject lines
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that come from like a a fear of loss
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work really well. So, you know,
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something all lowercase, it's like,
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"You're wasting 2,300
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per month."
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That says, "Nick, you're wasting 2,300
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per month." Uh, that would be like a
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pretty cool subject line. Why? Because
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so long as the teaser doesn't give it
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all away, I'm going to read, you know,
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the lower case. I'll think, okay, this
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probably person probably wrote my uh
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name themselves cuz they screwed it up.
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2,300 per month, that's a fair amount of
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money. Wasting, I hate wasting stuff.
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You know, I'm not in like a scarcity
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mindset, but like I don't want to waste.
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Most human beings respond much better to
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uh you know, any sort of accusation of
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loss than they do uh potential upside.
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And so that's a good thing that you can
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take advantage of.
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Okay. So, the greatest subjects on
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planet Earth tend to be really simple.
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They tend to literally be stuff like,
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you know, like literally just Nick, um,
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you know,
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Nick Q. Um, Nick, are you taking
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coaching clients?
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Um, Nick, are you hiring? Uh, you know,
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Nick, you looked sad in your last vid.
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You know, stuff that's like clearly
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like, okay, what the hell's going on?
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Who is this? Are they a friend of mine?
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Are they a family member? Are they a
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longtime fan? Why do I look sad? Am I
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hiring? Am I taking coaching clients? He
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wants he wants me to work with him for a
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coaching client. Interesting. I'm
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wasting $2,300 per month. And then it's
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usually going to involve some sort of
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personalization in either the the
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subject or the teaser itself. So like
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one of the two is going to have to have
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a name or something like that. And then,
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you know, if they don't have names too,
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you could still use cold reading and
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stuff like that to get around it. But in
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general, that the recommendation is to
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use some sort of name. Okay, so that is
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subject lines. Let's chat a little bit
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more about follow-ups now. So I feel
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like people misunderstand the way that
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follow-ups work. Um, you know, I I have
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I have people out here that send like 20
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follow-ups a freaking day, and it's just
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it's too much. So, whatever platform
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you're on, whatever the heck you're
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doing, uh, generally speaking, I
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actually only send, you know, let's just
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pretend they're emails, not SMS's, I'll
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send like two emails, okay? Initially,
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I'll always just send some initial email
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and then I'll send some little
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follow-up. And the follow-ups don't have
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to be super crazy complicated. You know,
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I feel like a lot of people try and make
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them out to be these really, really,
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really big scary things, right? They're
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like, "Oh my god, I have to send case
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studies and I have to make this super
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personalized and I have to reference
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their their their third cousin twice
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removed and you know, if I don't do
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that, then the follow-up's just not
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going to work." And the reality is like
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your follow-ups are going to work fine.
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You can literally just say like, "Hey,
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X, checking in on Y. TLDDR,
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if this is the first time you're seeing
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this,
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you know, email body, you know,
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obviously make it different. Thanks,
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Nick." But, um, just having one
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follow-up is going to put you ahead of
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like 99.9% of people that don't do any
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follow-ups whatsoever. And then the
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reason why I do this, okay, and you're
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probably wondering like, okay, so I'm
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sorry, you don't send three, four, five.
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Uh, and I I do. It's just the reason why
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I do this initially is because I just
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don't know how good my email is. The
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whole idea of sending outbound is you
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want to minimize the proportion of
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people that mark you as spam.
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This differs from one platform to the
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next. On email, it is literally the
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spam/block buttons. On LinkedIn, it
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might be the delete or archive buttons.
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On Instagram X, it might be the
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decline of buttons, etc. ETC. And
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basically what happens is when you have
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multiple um emails in a sequence and
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you're not sure that it's a good
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sequence to begin with, you're risking
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the spam/block a lot more because you'll
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annoy the hell out of people. So what
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you want to do instead is you want to
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instead start with a smaller sequence of
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two. Then you want to improve this and
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track reply rates, open rates, whatever
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you can depending on the specific metric
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of u outbound that you're doing. When
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you found a good fit,
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aka when your campaign starts
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overperforming, then you can add an
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additional step and it'll continue
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lifting your performance over time while
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minimizing your uh what I'm just going
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to call, you know, block risk
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and maximizing the health of your
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assets, you know, which might be like
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mailboxes,
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phone numbers, Instagram profiles,
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LinkedIn profiles, X profile, calls etc.
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Okay, so I mean like hopefully that's
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clearer, but the only situation in which
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I'd add an additional email like a third
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email would be let's say my reply rates
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are 2% on this um whole campaign here.
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You know, I I I wouldn't do it. But if I
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found some really good like breakout
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campaign and it works super well and
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it's actually like 4.8% just with two
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emails, like yeah, I'm going to add a
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third one. And do you know what'll
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happen if I add email three here? That
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4.8% is going to elevate. That 4.8% 8%
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is going to become like a 6.1% just
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because you know with more emails
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there's higher probability that people
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are actually going to respond to you
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obviously because they get more more
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pings and touch points and I'm going to
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do this while also minimizing the
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probability of me getting uh some issue.
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Same thing there. You know if I had a
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fourth email then what's realistically
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happening is I'm feeding this in and my
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6.1% might become like a 6.8%. I was
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going to do 6.9 and or 6.7 but I didn't
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want little kiddos to go crazy. And you
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can just continue working that up but
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you have to hit some sort of like
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minimum bar. Okay. And you know in
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general um just send simple pings
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just send simple
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human follow-ups like real humans don't
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Peter while analyzing leftclick I
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noticed
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you were spending XYZ
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on platforms you didn't have to be our
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recent case study
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you know AAA corp saved over $10,000 by
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doing whatever. Like, real human beings
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don't talk like this. And again, the
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whole idea is you want to seem like a
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real human being. A real human being
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would just be like, "Hey, Pete, are you
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cool, man? Like, get back to me. Let me
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know how this is." Or like, "Hey, Pete,
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just checking in on X, Y, and Z. Let me
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know if you have any questions or
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whatever. Hey, Pete. Um, let me know if
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this got lost in your mailbox." Right?
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The reality is, if you spent a bunch of
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time and energy to write the first
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email, that's the sort of follow-ups
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that you would actually be doing. You
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would not be doing like newsletter style
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follow-ups like this. you just be doing
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like, "Hey, man, quick ping. Hey, dude.
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Can you help me out with whatever?"
[206:51] (12411.52s)
"Hey, whatever." And um it's unfortunate
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because like a lot of people screw that
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up, man. And a lot of people like they
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they don't realize how easy it is to do
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follow-ups. Just like send them a ping,
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reformulate the initial chunk of your
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email, um and use a different subject
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line for the most part because that
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allows you to test multiple different
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subjects over and over and over and over
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again. Okay. And finally, let's chat
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about this principle of iterating before
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I exit out of number seven and get on to
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number eight. So, what do I mean by
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iterating? To be clear, um, your cold
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emails or cold outbound campaigns
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rarely rock right away. They usually
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suck. What more or less always happens
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anytime you build a campaign or at least
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anytime I build a campaign, if you found
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a way to eliminate this, then please let
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me know is, you know, if this is um time
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and then this is whatever metric I'm
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interested in, which is going to be in
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my case reply rate. Okay, usually what
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happens is you start pretty low. Okay.
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And let's just make this something a
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little different. You start pretty low.
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You know, if this is like time step
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zero, you you just send it out. This is
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time step one. This is two. This is
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three. Maybe this is days or something
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like that. This is basically what's
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happening over the course of a of a full
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week. You start out at, you know, 2.5%.
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And you think, okay, this is pretty mid.
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So, you start making some changes. You
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change your copy up. And then all of a
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sudden, this does pretty well. So, now
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you're at a 3.2%. And you're like, okay,
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sweet. I'm liking this. Um, I wonder
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what would happen if I change a copy
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again, but then you screw it up and then
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you go back down to, I don't know,
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somewhere around like 3%. And then
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you're like, okay, okay, maybe, you
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know, I'll do another change, then you
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go up to uh 4%.
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And so in this way, you just
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continuously iterate and on some
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occasions, things will go worse, and on
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some occasions, things will go good
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until eventually what you do is you
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reach like this sort of like plateau
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where things just like they they they
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don't really get any better. And this is
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sort of like your true reply rate for
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whatever the campaign is. And the only
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way to get here is obviously you need a
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lot of data, right? Because I mean I
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don't know every leg here is going to be
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somewhere between like 500 to 1k emails
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in my case, but in your case maybe text
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messages or or or phone calls or
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whatever. Um and so typically what that
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means is there's some highle rules that
[208:59] (12539.68s)
you can get as a result of just thinking
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about this stuff broadly. Um the first
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is you know if I just try and make it
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really clear
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always iterate you know always have
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multiple variants going simultaneously
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if you don't you're basically always
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leaving some money on the table and uh
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as we know with the outreach you do not
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want to be leaving any money on the
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table here. The margins can be thin
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enough as is if you're not good. So no
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matter what always be sending like more
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than one uh variant. This is going to
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differ depending on what platform you're
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using. Instantly has built-in support
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for that. Smartly has built-in support
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for I think hey reach now has built-in
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support for LinkedIn outbound. There's
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some X platforms out there that have
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built in support for X outbound. Not all
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these will be above uh terms of service
[209:38] (12578.96s)
uh restrictions and stuff like that. So
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be careful. But um yeah, no matter what,
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always iterate. Stick to a schedule. If
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you don't, you'll forget. What I mean by
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this is one of the simplest follow-up
[209:51] (12591.36s)
sorry iteration cadences that I've ever
[209:53] (12593.12s)
stuck with is I just iterate every
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Sunday. Sunday is like the one day of
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the week that you know for most of my
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campaigns I will not send any coms and
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what that means is every week I just
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know and I've been doing this for years
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where I'm just like okay it's Sunday
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that means it's like iteration day and
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for like 20 or 30 minutes not a very
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long time at all you know I know some
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people keep their Sunday sacred but for
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20 or 30 minutes I'll just sit down and
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I'll make some minor adjustments to my
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emails I I'll just say uh I don't know
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like change the subject line or do this
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or do that and I since I do it on
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Sundays every Sunday it's just like so
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built into my schedule that I actually
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get 100% of those iteration cycles. Like
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per year I probably get like 45 to 50
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iteration cycles that nobody else gets
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because the way that most people iterate
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is they'll be like I got to iterate and
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then they'll try iterating a ton like
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once every day for like the first week
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and then they'll never iterate again.
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The idea is you want it to iterate
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consistently over time, make changes,
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log those changes somewhere and then
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just be able to look at that sort of
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like a researcher doing their
[210:51] (12651.60s)
experiments. And now there are cool
[210:52] (12652.88s)
automated ways of doing this. So, you
[210:54] (12654.08s)
guys saw my recent auto research video
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with cloud code. You can actually like
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literally have AI design the research
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for you, make the iterations, and stick
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to that schedule, but you know, that'll
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be a while before it gets widespread
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enough or I think accurate enough to
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like really make a big dent. For now,
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just stick to a schedule. So, I mean, in
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your case, the schedule is going to
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depend on the volume. In general, okay,
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a good rule is 500 to a,000 per variant.
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What I mean is if you have two campaigns
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running simultaneously, one is sending
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X, the other is sending Y, you know,
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have each of those send somewhere
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between 500 to a,000, look at the reply
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rates and then make a decision based off
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of which one has a higher reply rate. If
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you've only sent 50 or 100, the
[211:32] (12692.64s)
probability that your decision will be
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statistically significant enough to have
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actually moved in the direction of like
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success is so low as to be laughable.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people, you
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know, they they don't realize just how
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much volume is required here. to listen
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100 emails get zero replies or one of
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their campaigns gets one and they're
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like, "Oh my god, you know, I just
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iterated so that um you know, I I I I
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selected the campaign that has one reply
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and I left the one that has zero replies
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in the dirt." And it's like, it could be
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that the one that got zero replies is
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actually way better. You just you don't
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have enough stats to really know.
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Talking to 100 people is not enough. You
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need to talk to 500 to a,000. And
[212:03] (12723.76s)
really, there are like whole statistical
[212:05] (12725.12s)
formulas for this, but I don't really
[212:06] (12726.80s)
like mucking around in the weeds. In my
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case, I'm always like, you know, more
[212:10] (12730.08s)
volume solves the issues of like better
[212:12] (12732.40s)
strategy and statistics. So for me, I'm
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just like 500 to,000 sounds good. In
[212:16] (12736.64s)
general, I also suggest pick a TAM with
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a lot of leads. What I mean by this is
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TAM stands for total addressable market.
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And that just corresponds to basically
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what what it is that you're targeting.
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So for instance, if I'm targeting um I
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don't know like holistic
[212:32] (12752.48s)
nutritionists in Texas or something, I'm
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probably only going to have like a
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couple hundo if that. So I'm not even
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going to be able to do like one good
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test, right? But if I'm targeting like I
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don't know digital agencies in the
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United States which is obviously a lot
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broader and that has some downsides as
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well. You know this might be 100,000 and
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it's like okay cool. So 100,000 might
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literally mean like I'll have somewhere
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between 100 to 200 tests. I mean imagine
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if this is the improvement that you
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could make with like seven tests.
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Imagine you could do with like 100 to
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200 tests, right? You could get
[213:03] (12783.44s)
something basically to the moon assuming
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it doesn't plateau. Again the last one
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is make big changes early and small
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changes late. What I mean by that is at
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the very beginning of your cold email or
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SMS or cold calling campaign or
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whatever, you know the least about what
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works because you have the least amount
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of data. And so what that means is your
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primary task is to explore the search
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space is to search as quickly and
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effectively as possible over a wide
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range of, you know, potential approaches
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and then just quickly narrow out all the
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ones that don't work because most of
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them won't work. You can't do that just
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by making one tiny little change to your
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sequence every week. What you have to do
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is if you're just starting out, your
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first week sending cold email or making
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cold calls, have like two fundamentally
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different scripts or two fundamentally
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different sequences. Your first is like,
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you know, 30 characters. And it's like,
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well, not actually 30 characters, maybe
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like 30 to 50 words. It's like, you
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know, hey Pete, love what you're doing,
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man. If I could uh connect you with
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three to five decision makers per week
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and land you an additional 10K a month
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and then collect, you know, between a 10
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to 15% commission, would you be open to
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that? have a lot of people in XYZ space
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and uh you know looking for partners
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right now. Just give me a shout and we
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can have a quick call about it. Thanks.
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And your other one is like Peter, it's
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Sally. I haven't seen your profile in
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years, but I remember coming across it
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on the eve of 2014 when I was walking my
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dog Shire to whatever, right? Like what
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I'm trying to say is make them very
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different initially and then you'll very
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quickly figure out which one is better.
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And once you make it a quick
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determination as to which one's better,
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the super short, the super long, the
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super formal, the super informal, the
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super in-depth personalized, the super
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not in-depth personalized, you can very
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quickly just like cut out half of all of
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the possibilities that won't work and
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then move to like the half that that
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that do. And so like I typically will
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test two fundamentally different emails
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that don't look anything alike and then
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I'll just see which one performs the
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best. And then the next uh test is I'll
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make them like different but not so
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different like the first one that
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they're like fundamentally different or
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fundamentally opposed. I'll make them
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kind of like, you know, the first change
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was like a 3x difference, the second
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one's like a 2x difference, the third
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one's like a 1x difference, the fourth
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one's like a 0.5x and so on and so on
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and so forth. And so what I mean is like
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if this graph instead is the size of the
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difference over time, basically you want
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to like significantly decrease the size
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of the difference over time so that uh
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you know the two emails end up being
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much much more similar as you go on. And
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then eventually you will have like
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narrowed in on like a really high
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performer. Once you've narrowed in a
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really high performer, all you have to
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do is just change a few words here or
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there. Change the subject line a bit.
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change like one line from X to Y, you
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know, change how you're doing the
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personalizations and that sort of stuff.
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And that takes me to probably one of my
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favorite subjects given how I've just
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been producing a lot of content
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surrounding AI recently, which is how to
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use AI in copywriting. Now, what I what
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I think a lot of people are probably
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going to assume that I'm going to say
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here is that you should use AI to, you
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know, write your campaigns. They think
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I'm going to show them a big long script
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or prompt or a claude code skill that
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effectively shows you how to go from no
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campaign written to a full campaign in
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front of you. They probably think that
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because you know colloquially I'm I'm an
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a guy AI guy now. But to be honest, I
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rarely if at all use AI in my
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copyrightiting these days. There was a
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period about a year and a half ago where
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I was experimenting with using AI
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personalization quite a bit. And I found
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just generally speaking, personalization
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does not replace like a good quality
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campaign. AI is also not yet at the
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ability where it can meaningfully craft
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like very persuasive copy. And despite
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the fact that, you know, things are
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still progressing pretty quick, I do not
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think it's at the point where you should
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be using it for your copy. I think there
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are a couple of cool toy projects you
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could build with it like using AI to
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like assist you in minor iterations but
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you should not just give entirely your
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copy over to a model and just assume
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that it'll be better than human beings.
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The reason why is because I consider the
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skill required to get to a reasonable
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level of competence with uh just like
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you know this course and then a little
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bit of elbow grease is actually pretty
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low. So another famous graph coming at
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you. You know if this is the amount of
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time it takes for you to learn something
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and this is your skill and we're
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specifically talking about
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copyrightiting. I think copyrightiting
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is very much like this
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meaning like the first I don't know
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let's just say this is 2 weeks and this
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is like one month. I think you will
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actually literally get like 70 to 80%
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let's just call it 75% of the total
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available skill in this with a very
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small period of time um actually
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invested in working and so the reason
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why I think this is so important is
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because despite the fact that you know
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right over here this looks like it's
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only 25% the gap between you know a
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novice and then you know sorry somebody
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that's been doing this for like one year
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this is kind of logarithmic the point
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I'm trying to make is it takes very
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short amount of time to get to
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reasonable level quality and then it
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takes a very long amount of time to take
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that like reasonable level quality and
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make it like incredible quality. So, you
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know, I'm I'm up here in so far that
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I've spent many years doing this stuff.
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Um, you know, basically been in
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marketing and sales my entire career
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since I graduated uh university and well
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before then if I'm being honest and so
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I've basically been doing some form of
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outbound for about a decade now. And I'm
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not even, you know, I'm probably like
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90th percentile, 95th percentile.
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Certainly qualified enough to teach a
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course on it, but not necessarily the
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best copyriter in the world. you'd have
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to look at the uh Oglev's and and stuff
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like that um you know for real deep
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understanding of copyrighting. But I
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guess what I'm trying to say is because
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the there's this gap of like good and
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great and the gap just takes so much
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additional skill to learn like AI will
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happily write copy over here because AI
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can basically do anything the human
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beings can do now with about 2 weeks of
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experience but it'll really really
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struggle with writing copy up here. And
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so that 25% is is massive and there's
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big diminishing returns on it. And uh
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unfortunately in the market nowadays
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like there's a there's almost like a
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skill floor where like I don't know
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imagine you're in like the Titanic or
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something and it's uh I don't know it's
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it's it's flooding with water. If you're
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not like at least this good, which is
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better than what AI can do right now,
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nobody's even opening or clicking your
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freaking emails to begin with. So
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basically, you need to get to this point
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on your own. And then you need to write
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all your emails on your own. and then
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and only then would I even consider like
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even spot check use of AI worthwhile.
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Otherwise, it it'll just confuse the
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hell out of you and it'll result in like
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really poor quality um results. And uh
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if you're wondering like why I'm so
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convicted in my beliefs here, convicted
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why I have such conviction in my
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beliefs, it's because I literally run
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like an AI community that does a ton of
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copyrightiting. You know, it's called
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Maker School. And the vast majority of
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what we do on a day-to-day basis is
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we're copyrightiting our Upwork
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applications. We're copyrighting scripts
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for our Upwork looms. We're copyrighting
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actual cold emails. We're copyrighting
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cold uh LinkedIn DMs. We're copyrighting
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freaking everything. And we've just
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consistently found across all uh metrics
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across over 10,000 people that are
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actively doing this for their business.
[219:52] (13192.80s)
Um you know, people that use AI really
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intensely in the process tend to suck.
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Okay, so that's my anti-AI ludite rant.
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Um now let's talk about how to actually
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use AI in copywriting. Okay. So, you
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should not use it to rewrite your whole
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email. But what you should do if you're
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planning on using AI
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is use it for small
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templated variables.
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And what I mean by this is, you know, if
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I have
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um I don't know, some type of copy and
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it's hey Nick and then I have let's say
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an icebreaker or something like that.
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Just wanted to bring your attention
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to this. Your landing page right now is
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costing you, I don't know, XYZ per month
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and you could fix it in under 15 minutes
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with a quick
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tweak to your HTML, right? Whatever. And
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then, you know, you have like the rest
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of copy here. Okay.
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um this icebreaker segment here, this is
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sort of like your your your personalized
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segment. The only situation that I would
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use AI, okay, would be basically just to
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write like a small little snippet that
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looks like this. And to be honest, I
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wouldn't even have it write the entire
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snippet. I would just do something along
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the lines of um hey Nick,
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love your I don't know channel or web
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property.
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um big fan and has made me think a lot
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about something they involved something
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they're involved in.
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So, what I mean by this is um you know I
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would feed this into AI and I would say
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hey I want you to generate based off of
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all of their LinkedIn you know scraped
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information or based off of like this
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dossier that I've compiled in them or
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based off whatever the hell I just want
[221:46] (13306.48s)
you to tell me like what their most
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popular web property is and then what I
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want you to do is just insert it in this
[221:52] (13312.24s)
sentence love your channel or web
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property such that let's say you know
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they're like a YouTuber what it would do
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is it would say hey Nick love your
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channel man. Okay. If they're mostly on
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LinkedIn, it'd be like, "Hey, Nick, love
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your LinkedIn post, man." You know, if
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they write about AI or something like
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that, I'd say, "Big fan has made me
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think a lot about how AI is,
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you know, changing work or something
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like that, and then I'd stick that in
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there." Or if they're involved in
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videography, uh, you know, I'd scrape
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their profiles and whatever and I'd say,
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you know, setting up my studio, so
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thanks. Right? Something of this nature.
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And so what you use AI for is you don't
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use it to write your whole email like we
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saw earlier with that Grove example.
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More like gross, am I right? You uh you
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use it for small templated variables
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that fit into a pre-established
[222:43] (13363.92s)
already working template. And usually
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what you want is you want to use it in
[222:49] (13369.60s)
this like personalization section so you
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can just get your personalization out of
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the way, not have to worry about it
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again. And then you can just like write
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like really high quality um you know
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social proof. who am I? Why do I matter?
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Offer, and then CTAs down here. Okay, so
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that's that's number one. That's like
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probably the simplest and easiest way to
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use this. And I mean, this is so small
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of a pitch that like there's actually a
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lot like I' I've ran probably over like
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several dozen campaigns now
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where I actually just have AI
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only do one variable
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where it's literally casual version of
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company name. What do I mean by this?
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Like okay, let's say my company name is
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Leftclick Incorporated.
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If a usual scraper goes and grabs my
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date off LinkedIn or or whatever the
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hell and then I'm just putting a a
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native company name with with no nothing
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else, what it's going to say is it's
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going to say love Leftclick
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Incorporated. Now, if I'm Nick and I'm
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reading this email, I'm going to think,
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okay, well, this guy obviously scraped
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me because he put incorporated in. Like,
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when you talk about your businesses to
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other people, you're not like, dude,
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Leftclick Incorporated's revenue is
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going so high right now. Wow, Leftclick
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Incorporated just hit uh 43 mil. Wow,
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have you seen what happened with
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LeftClick Incorporated? you know, no you
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don't. You know, it's like Palunteer.
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It's like Palunteer technologies, right?
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You just say Palunteer. We do the same
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thing with with any sort of companies,
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right? And so the point that I'm trying
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to make is like what this casualization
[224:15] (13455.76s)
approach does is it just strips out
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anything that's not like casually
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usually referred to by other human
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beings either within the company or that
[224:23] (13463.52s)
would refer to the company naturally.
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And by doing so, it just makes it seem
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like a lot more real. So, you know, if
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it's like the leftclick incorporated or
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something, I might do this. Um, a
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business I used to run with uh my friend
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Um, Grinder was the Pacific Creative
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Group. Okay, that's a really long name.
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And actually, I think it was like the
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Pacific Creative Group LLC. You imagine
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if I went love the Pacific Creative
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Group LLC. Do you think that would work?
[224:46] (13486.08s)
Obviously not. But what if I said love
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PCG?
[224:50] (13490.16s)
You know, if you're at a really, really
[224:51] (13491.76s)
long business name, realistically, what
[224:53] (13493.36s)
people almost always do is they will
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almost almost always make acronyms of
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the name. And then when they refer to
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that business internally, you know, it's
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not the Pacific Creative Group LLC. It's
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like, you know, how's PCG doing? Hey,
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PCG is up 33% this year. It's like, oh,
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okay, cool. If I say, hey, Nick, love
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PCG. They're thinking, wait a second.
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Does this person know me? Oh, this must
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be one of my old business contacts or
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something. Let me click on the email.
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And then at least you get you guys get
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the read, right? So, yeah, this is
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called basically casual version of
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company name. And I've called this many
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things, but nowadays I call this like a
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casualization layer. And I have a bunch
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of cloud code skills and other like AI
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tools that really quickly casualize
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company names before I I I I do things.
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So use it to casualize
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company names, neighborhoods, schools,
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or other uh rapport building approaches.
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I said neighborhoods here, right? I
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don't know. Let's say they live in like
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Vancouver, British Columbia, right? And
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so what you're doing is you're feeding,
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this is where I used to live to be
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clear. If you guys don't know, it's on
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the west coast. Um, what I'm doing is
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I'm feeding in Vancouver, British
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Columbia to like sort of my my
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casualization.
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And then I'm saying, "Hey, I just want
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you to like extract the actual area that
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they live in based off their address or
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something." And so what the system then
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does is it outputs um, you know, East
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Van or something like that.
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And so, you know, instead of love
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Vancouver, it's like, hey, Nick, heard
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you live in East Van, right? Now, this
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is significantly more casual and there's
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significantly higher probability
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somebody's going to look at them and be
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like, "Holy [ __ ] this person knows East
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Van. This is something that you would
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only know if you actually lived in East
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Van." And you know what's wild is like
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you don't actually need to know how to
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do any of this stuff. Like AI tends to
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have enough geographical knowledge to be
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able to do that. specific neighborhoods
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in like San Francisco, specific
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neighborhoods in like some tiny little
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hobvel somewhere like like wherever you
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are, you can generally speaking do
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something like this. And so, um, that's
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how you use AI in copyrightiting. Okay,
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use it for small templated variables
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that fit into a pre-established already
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working template. Use it to use it to
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casualize company names, neighborhoods,
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schools, or other rapport building
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approaches. And then finally, you
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obviously use it to scrape leads and
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enrich info to begin with. But because
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this isn't a scraping thing, this isn't
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necessarily all about cold email
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specifically, I'm just going to leave it
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at that. If you guys want more on how to
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scrape leads, enrich information and
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whatnot. Um, definitely check out uh my
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channel. Uh, some videos that I posted
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last year talk specifically about
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scraping. I also show how to like set up
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high performing cold email campaigns in
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just a couple of hours that actually get
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responses and then lead to booked
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meetings. Uh, I use a variety of
[227:30] (13650.64s)
different approaches like Airscale,
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LinkedIn Sales Navigator, Vein.io,
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um, um, you know, like custom
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directories, custom conference lists,
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and so on and so forth.
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Okay, next up I want to talk about some
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advanced gray hat outbound techniques.
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Now, gray hat techniques are those that
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trade compliance. When I say compliance
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here, I mean compliance both with local
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laws and regulations and compliance with
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terms of services of many outbound
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platforms that you're probably familiar
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with. That's stuff like, you know,
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Gmail, stuff like Outlook, stuff like
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LinkedIn, and so on and so on and so
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forth. Now, in some situations, there is
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no established protocol or terms of
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service for them. So, in situations like
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that, you got to use them at your own
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risk. I mean, any one of these platforms
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or any one of these tools, hell, any one
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of these countries or municipalities can
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change your laws at any point in time.
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And so I'm just saying this to give you
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guys some some fair warning. While I
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believe some of what I'm about to talk
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about is valuable and it's worth
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knowing, both for the purposes of doing
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and then maybe the purposes of avoiding
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the downsides that normally come with
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them, I can't explicitly recommend any
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of them and and I won't. I've had a lot
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of people in Maker School that have
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attempted things like this and then
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they've gotten their account suspended
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permanently in some cases. They've
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gotten warning letters and stuff like
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that. So this is by no means me
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encouraging you guys to but any course
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on this would be incomplete if I did not
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mention this. So the way that things
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stand right now there are three main
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gray hat techniques where you are uh you
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know doing things that are that are
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either expressly against the toss or not
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explicitly defined. The first is buying
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social media accounts or LinkedIn,
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Instagram X, Tik Tok, you know whatever
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email uh whatever account it is plus
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email. So, I'm not going to name any
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particular vendors, but there are a
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bunch of places out there that you can
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go and usually pretty easily buy
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pre-warmed social media accounts. That's
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pre-warmed LinkedIn accounts, for
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instance, accounts that somebody
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purchased like years ago, it's kept on
[229:35] (13775.04s)
the back burner, maybe with some sort of
[229:36] (13776.80s)
activity, and then because they've acred
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like a lot of organic usage, LinkedIn is
[229:41] (13781.68s)
less likely to ban the person that's
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using that account or they're less
[229:44] (13784.96s)
likely to raise issues. Alternatively,
[229:46] (13786.64s)
maybe they have higher usage limits or
[229:48] (13788.16s)
higher connect outbound limits as a
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result, which is something that a lot of
[229:51] (13791.04s)
people want. You know, LinkedIn's uh,
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you know, outbound limits can be
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somewhere between 100 to 200 connects
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per week, higher if you're on premium,
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and even higher if you have like organic
[229:59] (13799.60s)
warmed up accounts for a while. Same
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thing with Instagram, same thing with X,
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and then same thing with email accounts.
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Now, these are actually kind of an
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interesting situation because the market
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has gone behind these to a large degree
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and uh they've sort of changed them.
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It's not like you're purchasing like
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accounts necessarily, but they they call
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them pre-warmed mailboxes
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and like if you jump on any major
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platform today like Instantly, um,
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Smartle or whatever. I don't actually
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know if Smartle has pre-warmed
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mailboxes. I'll have to double check.
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You know, yeah, it looks like they do
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have pre-warm mailboxes as well. Uh,
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what you can do is you actually just go
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and you can buy mailboxes that somebody
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else has set up with like a first name,
[230:36] (13836.32s)
a last name, and a domain name. And
[230:38] (13838.16s)
these are first names, last names, and
[230:39] (13839.52s)
domain names that may not exist. So what
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you're doing when you buy these
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mailboxes, you're basically buying like
[230:43] (13843.84s)
a fake person. And so as a result of
[230:45] (13845.92s)
buying the fake person, obviously
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there's a fair amount of like scrutiny
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that you will undergo, you know, if you
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show up to a call and you're they're
[230:52] (13852.56s)
like, "Hey, who the hell's Stacy at
[230:54] (13854.56s)
123click.com? Why are you Nick at
[230:56] (13856.48s)
leftclick?" You know, you're going to
[230:57] (13857.76s)
have to explain that away either
[230:59] (13859.12s)
explicitly as in like, "Hey, you know,
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this is a this is an outbound strategy.
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We purchase pre-warm mailboxes to
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eliminate the 21-day wait time." Um or
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through some other means where I don't
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know, you're you're a little more
[231:09] (13869.92s)
deceptive. you pass it off as a
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secretary or something like that. So, I
[231:13] (13873.84s)
say this not because I'm going to
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explicitly condone or recommend against
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any of these things, but this is the
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game right now. This is what people are
[231:19] (13879.68s)
doing. If there's a new need for
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mailboxes on mass, you know, people will
[231:23] (13883.28s)
typically go buy pre-warmed. They'll buy
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50 to 100 at a time, then they'll send a
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Stacy, Samantha, Nicholas, whatever the
[231:29] (13889.68s)
hell. Um, and then later on they'll just
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rectify that as, oh, you know, this is
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my secretary or something like that,
[231:34] (13894.56s)
even though that person doesn't
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explicitly exist. That's what people are
[231:37] (13897.84s)
referring to when they say some
[231:38] (13898.96s)
something like pre-warmed. A big thing
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that uh some kind of sneaky sales
[231:43] (13903.44s)
companies do for LinkedIn profiles
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particularly just because they're so
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valuable. And then the average daily
[231:47] (13907.76s)
outbound connects that you can send are
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so few. Like you have to ask you have to
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add connect requests. If you don't add
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somebody and make a connection with them
[231:54] (13914.24s)
on LinkedIn, you can't send them like a
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full DM. So a thing a lot of people are
[231:58] (13918.16s)
doing is they'll get um like sales or
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business development positions in their
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company. They'll usually hire people
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from like much lower cost of living
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nations. So I don't know usually some
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place in like Indonesia or maybe I don't
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know they'll hire like Bangladeshi
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freelancers or something like that.
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They'll be a western company. So they'll
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get to arbitrage obviously like the
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labor productivity and then the average
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earnings to like the you know average
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lifestyle expenses in in in one of those
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um uh countries let's say in like the
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the east. And then what they'll do is
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they'll say hey as part of working at my
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company um you know we get to use your
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LinkedIn account. And so then what
[232:33] (13953.84s)
they'll do is they'll treat it almost as
[232:35] (13955.52s)
if they're buying a LinkedIn account,
[232:36] (13956.80s)
but really what they're doing is they're
[232:37] (13957.84s)
like renting it from the person and then
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the person is expected to keep on giving
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the LinkedIn account to the bosses or to
[232:44] (13964.40s)
whoever the the person orchestrating the
[232:46] (13966.32s)
outreach is with some sort of threat
[232:48] (13968.40s)
like you know you're going to lose your
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job or whatever. And so I mean I I
[232:51] (13971.36s)
definitely don't do that. I think that's
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really slimy. But um you know a lot of
[232:55] (13975.04s)
people are and I've seen this kind of
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crop up especially as cold email in
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particular has gotten harder and people
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have shifted more to um you know uh
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outbound through LinkedIn and outbound
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through other social media platforms.
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Okay, so that's sort of number one. Um
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number two is they'll use power dialers.
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This is more like cold calling which is
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a little bit different from what most
[233:14] (13994.40s)
people here are probably used to when I
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say outbound copyrightiting but like
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copywriting a script is a thing a lot of
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people do. So if you consider yourself
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as like part of the umbrella of cold
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calling um you know a lot of people use
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power dialers and power dialers you know
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they're not like explicitly allowed
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against I would say but basically to
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make sure if you don't know what a power
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dialer is like in an average cold call
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campaign if you spend 100 minutes
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calling you're not spending 100 minutes
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talking to people that matter what
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you're really doing is you're spending
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20 minutes connecting okay so that's uh
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where you're literally going beep beep
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beep right you're connecting to a
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person. You're spending 20 minutes
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dialing,
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right? So, you're literally punching
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into the phone. You're spending 20
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minutes with some sort of like
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gatekeeper, which isn't the person
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you're actually looking for. Spending 20
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minutes doing some sort of voicemail
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drop. And then finally, you're spend the
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last 20 minutes actually talking to a
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decision maker, which is what you want.
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Um, so you know, like if you think about
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it, a whole 100 minute calling, how many
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are we actually doing what we want here?
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Like 20 minutes. So, it's like 20%
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utilization. And that's one of the
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reasons why I don't really recommend
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cold calling unless you use something
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like a power dollar. What a power dollar
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does is it basically just eliminates the
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connecting time and then the dialing
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time and then in some cases the
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voicemail time as well. So that you you
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know you don't actually spend 100
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minutes doing this. You spend 40 minutes
[234:29] (14069.52s)
calling and then of your 40 minutes 20
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minutes are on the phone with the
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gatekeeper, 20 minutes are on the phone
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with the decision maker. Obviously that
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is much more efficient. So much so that
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like you know it's about 2.5x. Um also a
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lot of people use power dollars for
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inbound. The issue with power dollars
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and there are a couple is the way that
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they work basically is in order to
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eliminate the call time. What they do is
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if you have like I don't know three
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numbers let's just say this is a number
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1 2 3 there's another one 456 and
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there's another one 7 89 whatever 1 2 3
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1 2 3 1 2 3 7 4 5 6 4 5 6 4 5 6 7 8 9 7
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8 9 7 89 you know normally what the
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dollar would do is it would call you
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know you'd call 1 2 3 and so you'd have
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like a dial time and then you'd also
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have a connect time right because you
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you have to dial it in and then you have
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to connect with it so you have to
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undergo this dial time and maybe this is
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like 30 seconds in total. Then you're
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done with the call and you have to do
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the same thing for this. There's another
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30 seconds. You have to do another call.
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It's another 30 seconds. And maybe a
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bunch of these people don't even pick
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up. So what um power dollars do is they
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just like parallelize this. So what you
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do is you actually call 1 2 3 at the
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same time you call 456 at the same time
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you call 789. Whatever these fake
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numbers are, the idea is not all of them
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are going to pick up simultaneously. You
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know, this fella might not even pick up
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his phone. So that's taken care of.
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Maybe this one picks up, but this one
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picks a little up a little bit later.
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And so what happens is you actually end
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up connecting with 456. You can have a
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brief conversation with them. They say,
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"Sorry, you know, I'm not looking for
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anybody right now." And then like when
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this person picks up, you're also on the
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phone with this person. What that means
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is you've actually done two times as
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efficient as um just calling you know a
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person sequentially essentially. Now the
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issue is um one there's a limit on how
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many people you can dial simultaneously.
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And then two, um, a lot of these
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platforms and stuff like that,
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especially like the older school ones
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that didn't really have these
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regulations, they do these things called
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automatic voicemail drops where you can,
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uh, voicemail people without actually
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having to like sit there and record the
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message. And so what it does is you
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pre-record a message and then you just
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like drop it to like 50,000 phone
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numbers and then boom, you know, 50,000
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people get a little notification, hey,
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you got a voicemail. And it's like, wait
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a second, you didn't even make the call.
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And so there's a bunch of regulations
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against this essentially. And, you know,
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I thought I'd just point that out to you
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guys, especially for outbound calling.
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Okay. Okay. And then the third and uh
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one that I think is probably the
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stickiest like leg legality wise I I
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probably would not do this is sending
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just pure cold SMS cold WhatsApp or
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using a third party API that allows you
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to use one of these two. Um and to
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emulate colors on messaging platforms.
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What do I mean by colors? Remember
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earlier we talked about iMessage?
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iMessage is like iPhone communication,
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right? When you send a message from one
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iPhone to another, you know, it doesn't
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appear as like the usual SMS thing. It's
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a little blue message box and it has
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some advanced features and it usually
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sends via some sort of Wi-Fi or
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connection and uh because of this you
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know people tend to trust like blue
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messages more and so there are a bunch
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of platforms out there that like emulate
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actual sending behavior from iPhone to
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iPhone even if you're sending a campaign
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let's say just through your through your
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web browser or through an interface. So
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in this way you get to emulate you know
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sending but then the color is blue and
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then the person on the other end of the
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line significantly more likely to
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respond to you. Same thing with cold
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SMS. There's a lot of platforms out
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there that allow you to send um
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basically do what Instantly does for
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email, but then for cold SMS. Uh some
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people out there are doing the same
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thing for WhatsApp right now. They're
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doing the same thing for a bunch of
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other like these messaging sort of apps,
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Telegram, Viber, uh and so on and so on.
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And I want you guys to know that like
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the cold outbound messaging is extremely
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regulated and like that is like very
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very no. But uh these platforms sort of
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skirt it by distributing a big volume
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across like a bunch of numbers usually
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in parallel without like really you know
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a person at the like actually tracking
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the stuff ever being none the wiser.
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Okay, so these are like the advanced
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grey hat outbound techniques. As
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mentioned, I'm not going to recommend
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that you absolutely do any of these. I'm
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also not going to like sit here and
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moralize you. A lot of people are doing
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stuff like this. It's probably like
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steroids in bodybuilding. You know,
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people probably don't want to do it, but
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then all of their competitors are doing
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and they're like, "Oh [ __ ] you know, I
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feel like I probably have to." Um, but
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that in a nutshell is it. Use whatever
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you want according to your own level of
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risk tolerance and then just understand
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that I'm not at all encouraging this.
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And that takes us to the end of the
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course. Thank you guys very much for
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making it this far. Had a blast running
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through everything to do with cold
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outbound. And I hope you guys learned as
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much as I did in the both the
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preparation and then the execution of
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the last probably like 4 and 1/2 hours
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or so. If you guys like this sort of
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thing, uh, something like 70% of viewers
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don't subscribe. No idea why, but that's
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what the YouTube algo says. So, if
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you're in that 70%, do me a solid and
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leave a subscription. I'd also love it
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if you could leave me a comment just
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telling me what else you'd like to see
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me record. I tend to create a lot of
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content based off of explicit requests
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from people just like you. It's how I
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listen to my audience. And aside from
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that, have a lovely rest of the day and
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I'll catch all y'all in the next one.
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See you.