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hi everyone welcome back to the history
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and 20 podcast top roll our eyes so
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today it's not only 20 minutes as per
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its going to try name 30 minutes today
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because we are talking about the 30
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Years War so 30 years and 20 minutes
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seemed a bit ambitious so see if the
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extra 10 minutes can help out so start
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off when was it it was from the 23rd of
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May 1618 to the 15th of May 1648 so
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almost exactly for 30 years and it
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happened in Weld Europe as a whole sort
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of made the fighting was mainly centered
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in Central Europe but it was across the
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whole continent and the death toll was 8
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million people which included 20% of the
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German population which is pretty
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incredible when you think about that
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it's 20% of Germany's population at the
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time although a lot of the civilian
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deaths were down to plague but we'll
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discuss that a bit later so for such a
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water over so long what was the in
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inverted commas reason for it well
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mainly to put it simply it was a
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conflict between the European Catholic
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and Protestant states and it was a
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religious war which then developed into
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a case of a continent or power struggle
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between most of the states and rulers of
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Europe so that's it yeah that's the end
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pretty much but now so we've got notable
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people who are involved which I'll
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discuss throughout this podcast we've
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got ferdinand ii frederick v phillip the
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third louis xiii Cardinal Richelieu
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Gustavus Adolphus Phillip the fourth the
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duke dan hein and louis xiv among many
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others there's a lot of notable battles
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such as the Battle of White Mountain in
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1620 the Battle of Britain felled in
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1631 the Battle of lützen in 1632 in the
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Battle of Rock Roy in 1643 and notable
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events that happened there was the
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defenestration of Prague in 1618 the
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deposition of ferdinand ii as king of
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bohemia a year later in 1619 the Edict
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of restitution 1629 the Treaty of Lubeck
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1629 the Treaty of bevelle 1631 and the
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Peace of Westphalia 1648 and also I just
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want to say if there's any sort of terms
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you're unfamiliar with of actually Medal
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glossary on my blog post which you can
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find at history in 20 blog spot.com and
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just search for 30 years while blog post
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there's a glossary at the end of terms
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it might be unfamiliar with so with that
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little introduction done let's get on
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with it so I was with all these sort of
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historical conflicts it's hard to
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actually pinpoint the exact moment when
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or why a war started so for example
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let's turn to the First World War was it
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Franz Ferdinand's assassination that
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kick-started the First World War or was
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it more a case of sort of increasing
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imperialism throughout European nations
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in the early 20th century which then led
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to increased ideas of rhetoric and
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nationalism so this sort of thing is
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similar with the 30 Years War as well so
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was it the succession of the Habsburg
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ferdinand ii as the king of bohemia in
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1617 was at the defenestration of Prague
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the following year or was it Frederick
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the fifths response in 1619 so again
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I'll try my best to sort of discuss it
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so at the very beginning we'll start
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we'll start in 1617 so in 1617 thanks to
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King Matthias of Bohemia is actions
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against religious revolt Augsburg fell
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apart so then the Bohemian crown was
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then handed to a Jesuit trend member of
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the infamous Habsburg family ferdinand
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ii who reigned from 1617 to 37 and he
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also became Holy Roman Emperor in 1619
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now the historian Simon Jenkins actually
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states that no succession could have
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been more disastrous for Europe and
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we'll soon see why so although Ferdinand
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undoubtably shared the same military
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enthusiasm of his cousin across the
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continent Philip the 3rd of Spain he
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showed this enthusiasm but why is the
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majority philip subjects were Catholic
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the majority of Ferdinand's bohemian
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subjects were Protestant and by spring
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1618 news had reached Prague which was
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the land capital of Bohemia that
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Ferdinand intended to replace Bohemia
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Protestant governors with Catholics and
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this was an immediate revolt unlike a
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stated earlier the defenestration of
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Prague on the 23rd of May 1618 so upon
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hearing the news of op Ferdinand
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replacing Bohemia's protestant governors
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with catholic ones a delegation of
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protestant bohemian nobles entered the
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cannae castle polishes running
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pronunciation there rod kenny castle on
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23rd ma 1618 through two hubs burg
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governor's Yaroslav on martinets and
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Vilhelm on salvato on the six story
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window and the london and dung heap
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which actually broke their fall and was
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also good for propaganda at times
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obviously now ironically both Phan
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Martinez and run Salvatore were
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protesting again its recent attacks on
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Protestant churches despite themselves
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being Catholics and against Ferdinand's
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assumption of the Bohemian throne and
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against his alleged violations of the
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Royal Charter of toleration of 1609
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now this defenestration of Prague was
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actually a deliberate imitation of an
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incident almost two centuries before
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when seven members of the Prague City
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Council actually killed by a crowd of
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Czech ho sites in 1419 which started the
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whole site was but that's a whole
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different ballgame
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so anyway we'll move on to the I've sort
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of organized it through different
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countries and States responses so I'll
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start off chronologically with the
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Bohemian response and then Frederick the
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fifth so at the time of the
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defenestration of Prague Ferdinand was
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campaigning for the Imperial election
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which was the election for Holy Roman
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Emperor and religious peace in Germany
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was sort of wavering a bit
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now the Lutheran princes were awkwardly
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watching as the newly formed Protestant
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Union which was led by Frederick the
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elector Palatine squared up to the
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Catholic League which was led by
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Maximilian elector of bavaria now
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eventually these religious tension cord
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snapped and the Bohemian rebels invaded
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Vienna which prompted a revolt in
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Austria so in 1619 upon Ferdinand
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successful successful successions the
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imperial throne the Bohemians formally
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deposed him as king of bohemia and
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instead elected the Calvinist frederick
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in his place so in simple terms you've
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got a Catholic who was elected
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Bohemians didn't like it let's replace
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him with a new bow Protestant that's
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what happened so obviously that means
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open war now Frederick then became
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Frederick v of Bohemia in Ferdinand's
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place now as I mentioned earlier
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Frederick was a Calvinist and he was
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actually married to Elizabeth Stewart
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who was daughter of King James the first
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of England and she was dubbed the jewel
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of Europe and she was soon to become a
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lasting objective Protestant adoration
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so as you can see already we've had
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he MoveOn Spain now we've got England
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coming in and this is like all before
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1620 so I've still got nearly 30 years
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left in all these nations are already
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getting involved so in response
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Ferdinand then summoned Catholic
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Monarchs and mercenaries from across
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Europe to wage a war of faith religious
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war and what he viewed as his Protestant
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subjects so spared under Philip the 3rd
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Poland and the Sigismund the 3rd and the
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papacy under Pope Paul the 5th all
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joined Ferdinand in the Catholic League
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which Simon Jenkins refers to as an
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inter intra European Crusader force now
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on the other hand Frederick was bucked
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by the Dutch Protestants Scandinavians
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the French rather deviously under louis
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and the english half-heartedly under
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James the first just as dart was married
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to him and he was Frederick was his
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son-in-law now the ensuing conflict
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retracted the values of the Peace of
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Augsburg which I'll explain in a minute
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ensured how far one man's faith could
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dictate a faith the fate of Nations
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so the Peace of Augsburg was actually a
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treaty that was signed by then that then
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Holy Roman Emperor Charles the fifth and
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the shmell dickly in September 1555 so
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it officially ended the religious
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struggle between the two or four mention
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groups and made the legal division of
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Christianity permanent within the Holy
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Roman Empire and it allowed rulers to
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choose either Luther ISM or Roman
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Catholicism as the official confession
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of their state
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so yeah the conflict sort of did retract
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these values from the Peace of Augsburg
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less than 100 years earlier so as I said
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this man opened war and the very first
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pitched battle of the 30 Years War was
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the Battle of White Mountain on the 7th
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of November 1620 it was fought just
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outside of Prague so Ferdinand's
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Catholic forces and Frederick's
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Protestant forces met on the battlefield
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and Frederick's Protestant forces were
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soundly defeated by Ferdinand's Catholic
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forces and the consequences were of
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course huge so Ferdinand reacted to his
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victory the brutality and he had 27
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bohemian leaders executed in Prague's
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Old Town Square now all of Bohemia is
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non Catholic Nobles had their lands
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confiscated and all Protestants were
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evicted and the majority of whom fled
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west into Germany and the Catholicism
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and Germanisation of Bohemia had begun
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and actually this religious
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lens and then was so successful in
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Bohemia that that to this day Bohemia
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still remains largely Catholic so
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Frederick fled along with his wife
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Elizabeth they both became refugees in
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the hague which is the modern-day
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Netherlands and they were known for the
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shortness of their one year read as the
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winter king and queen which sounds like
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something out Game of Thrones so after
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Frederick and Elizabeth had fled their
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lands in the Palatine were invaded by
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the Spanish Netherlands and then seized
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by the Bavarians so the general of the
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Catholic forces was a man called count
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Tilly now he stormed Heidelberg in 1622
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and then traversed northern Germany in
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pursuit of the Protestant forces which
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were held by Count von Mansfeld so my
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next section on our side it's called
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pressure from the north and it's the
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Scandinavian involvement so now we're
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looking sort of six circa 1622 circa
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1635 so one of the main countries
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involved was Denmark so while can't tell
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he was busy ravaging northern Germany
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Ferdinand discovered a major problem
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about using mercenaries in his army that
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he couldn't pay them enough she'd run
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out of money so the fighting became
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almost like banditry and as a result all
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of Europe was dragged into it including
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Denmark and Sweden so after the Battle
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of White Mountain in 1620 Christian the
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forth of Denmark a came in and entered
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the conflict in defense of his
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hard-pressed Protestant confreres
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so he had to contend with a new
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imperialist army which was raised by a
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bohemian Catholic nobleman Albrecht von
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Waldstein
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or more commonly known as Albrecht von
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Wallenstein 1585 1634 here and so the
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Protestant forces which included forces
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from England France and the Netherlands
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were defeated again at the bridge of
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Dessel on the river Elbe in 1626 and
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Count von Mansfield's Protestant forces
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which count till he had pursued since
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1622 with n defeated knew her cell near
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Bratislava which is a capital of
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modern-day Slovakia so count Tilly then
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attack the Protestant Netherlands with
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help from the Spanish under Philip the
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third so main verb meanwhile Valen Steen
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overrun the majority of the lands on the
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Baltic coast which included Brunswick
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Lower Saxony Mecklenburg fleishig
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Holstein Jutland and the Baltic coast to
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the outskirts of Stralsund and
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declared himself Generalissimo of the
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Baltic and the ocean seas so then coming
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in we decide right time for a treaty so
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on the 6th of March 16 29 the Edict of
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restitution comes about and Ferdinand
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ordered the Protestants to surrender all
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the former ecclesiastical lands acquired
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since the Peace of Augsburg now interest
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in the Valen Steen objected because army
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contained many non Catholics he was then
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dismissed so finally the Treaty of
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Lubeck 22nd of May 16 29 was signed by
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Valen Steen Christian the 4th
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Unferth on the 2nd which ended Danish
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involvement in the 30 Years War by
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persuading them to retire on the return
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of their lost possessions so the deal
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really was a winner for everyone
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involved in the signing of the treaty
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but I mean we're only in 1629 the was
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far from over yet so I mentioned earlier
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that Sweden got involved too
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so swim entered the fray shortly after
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Denmark had signed the treaty of Lubeck
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Gustavus Adolphus your mansion right the
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beginning he was also known as gustav ii
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of sweden arranged from 1611 to 32 he
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sent a contingent told Strawson in
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northern germany now fortified by the
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treaty of Bovard which was signed on
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23rd january 1631 and this was an
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agreement by france to provide sweden
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with financial support following its
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intervention in the 30 Years War
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Gustavus landed in Germany with the main
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Swedish army and he proceeded to
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vigorously restore Protestant fortunes
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now the reason behind this treaty was
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largely thanks to the Catholic King of
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France Louis xiii and his advisor
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Cardinal Richelieu as they followed
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French policy in siding with any foe of
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Habsburg so essentially their philosophy
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was my enemy's enemy is my friend
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even a Protestant one so hence King
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James the first of England a Protestant
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even sent a small army of soldiers to
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the continent to support Louie the 13th
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and Gustavus his treaty however the
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campaign did not get off to a strong
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so Gustavus failed to relieve Magdeburg
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before it was mercilessly sucked by the
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imperialists but the Battle of Britain
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failed which was on the 17th September
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1631 crushed count Tilly and moved into
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the polity note and in 1632 Gustavus
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entered Bavaria and Munich and Nuremberg
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also opened their gates to his forces
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now the Swedish army planned to move on
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Vienna later and
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so Ferdinand was forced to recall Valen
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Steen after he previously dismissed him
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after his objection towards the Edict of
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restitution three years before so next
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is the next major battle which is the
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Battle of Luxan which was just over a
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year after Bratton failed on the 16th of
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November 1632 now it was a furious
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Butler no law the Swedish forces won
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Gustavus fell who's found under a heap
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of dead bodies with bullet holes in his
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head and a dagger thrust into his side
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and similarly fallen infection from a
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wound Frederick v died on the 29th of
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November 1632 to these coot two
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catastrophes which were less than a
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fortnight pass - Danny Hawks a
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Protestant son of an early end to the
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conflict so next section I decided to
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divide it open to move on to his Cod the
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Western sphere and it's French
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involvement which we're looking at sort
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of circa 1635 to 1648 so concern that
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Philip the 4th of Spain would use the
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water reunite Charles the fifth Spanish
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in Austrian Habsburg empires in 1635
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Louis the 13 from Richelieu officially
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declared war on Spain now at this point
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it's not just Catholic versus Protestant
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Catholic Baldwin versus Catholic
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Habsburg so France once more took the
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Swedish forces into their pair and
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invaded Alsace so in 1636 Spanish forces
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reached the outskirts of Paris but soon
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realized how it could be a disadvantage
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German territory stationed throughout
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Europe when the French threatened
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Spanish Flanders and sent reinforcements
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to the Swedes in the north and the
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Protestants even invited the Ottoman
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Turks to attack Austria from the east so
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you were up was indeed in turmoil you're
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almost getting Asia involved at this
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point which is incredible so yer later
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1637 third number ii dies which
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initially raised hopes for an eventual
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peace however by this point the war
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already had a momentum of its own it was
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no longer a religious war like back in
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Germany as I mentioned earlier so
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undisciplined mercenary troops tore
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principalities apart and create a
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conflict where I was previously non
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before so by 1638 French fortunes were
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mounting so was the rise of the youthful
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Duke dengan which he was called Louie
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the second Prince de condé
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and he was referred to by contemporary
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chroniclers as the finest general in
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Europe and he helped improve morale in
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the French forces who's aged just 21 and
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he took to the battlefield at rock
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quarry in the our den against the
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Flemish army on the 19th of May 1643 and
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roundly crushed the turkey us which were
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a Spanish infantry unit and he actually
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ended Spanish participation in the war
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as well as Spanish military supremacy in
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pavia which had lasted since 1525 and
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interestingly as well Rock Roy was also
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the final pitched battle of the 30 years
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while so this dynastic conflict between
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France and Spain from 1635 resulted in
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louis xiv of france because luna 13 had
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died he reigned from 1643 to 1715 he
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made peace in 1648 coming to what was a
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belief that the Habsburgs were too
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powerful so me last section is called
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the end in sight which this podcast is
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as well nearly you know the end in sight
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the Peace of Westphalia 1648 so in 1643
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in the immediate aftermath of Rock Roy
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diplomats from all parties represented
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there was 109 diplomats in total they
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met in two separate towns in Westphalia
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under Brooke and monster now a mystery
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scuttled back and forth between the
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sides and the reach not just one treaty
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but a series of local deals designed to
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roll into a collective peace and the
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agreement took five years and was
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eventually signed on the 15th of May
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1648 bringing about a fine a final
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formal end to 30 Years War
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but how did this particular treaty
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manage this and what were the main
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details of it so it was essentially a
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reversion to Augsburg which I mentioned
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earlier a principle of national
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self-determination in politics and faith
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so Westphalia restored the autonomy of
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the German states and denied authority
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over them to the Holy Roman Empire
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so in fact some historians even argue
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that Westphalia is credited with father
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in the concept of the nation-state now
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in addition Westphalia formally accepted
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the reality of a Europe that had Fault
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itself to exhaustion so on the religious
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issue which is what this war started out
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as in the first place it granted the
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same rights to Calvinists as it did to
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Lutheran's and Catholics in Germany so
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on the constitutional issue which the
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world evolved into throughout the 1630
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it correctly strengthened the European
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princes by granting them the right to
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sign for entreaties by making all
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Imperial legislation conditional on the
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diet's approval so sort of consequences
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we out of this war it'd be rude to
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ignore these really so start like try
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new country by country if I can so
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German manufacturing and trade
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completely collapsed while sewing and
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harvesting your ceased altogether so
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estimates from a third to a half of 20
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million German speakers died and the
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north well examples in Magdeburg which
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had 20,000 inhabitants in 1620 and 450
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inhabitants in 1649 so completely
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decimated France also again run deep
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into Germany and Alsace and the Rhine
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Basin Germany itself was left ruined and
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it took over a century for it to recover
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now further north
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Sweden arose in northern European
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powerhouse again in some North German
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territories along the way so we'll fly
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back over to Southwest Europe now Spain
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was left a shattered realm
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it was decoupled forever from the Holy
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Roman Empire back to the center of
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Europe in Bohemia the Swedish general
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actually wrote at home saying that I did
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not expect to find the kingdom so Lane
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wasted and spoiled for between Prague
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and Vienna everything has been razed to
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the ground and hardly a living soul can
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be seen on the land which just shows
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exactly the state that Central Europe
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was in one of the few prosperous
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countries to emerge was Protestant
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Prussia under the leadership of the
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Holland Zeeland family Hawkins all and
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family sorry of the great Electra
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Frederico Vilhelm who reigned from 1640
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to 88 and so of the thoughts of Pope
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Innocent the 10th who was Pope from 1644
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to 55 some of the prophecies thoughts on
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Westphalia although this is possibly
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because the pops um represented for
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obvious reasons and he denounced it as
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null void invalid iniquitous unjust
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damnable reprobate inane and devoid of
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meaning so I'll just put in a few after
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thoughts there just to conclude this
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episode with so really the 30 Years War
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has been called by some historians a
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European civil war now this isn't far
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from the truth because almost all of the
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European states at some point from 1618
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were actually involved a lot clearly
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some were involved more than others and
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another reason why this conflict is so
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significant as well and widely
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remembered on the continent is because
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of your hand Gutenberg's invention in
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the 15th century the printing press so
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images of tortured civilians were
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widespread and thanks to the printing
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press actual depictions of the levels
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and scale of torture could be witnessed
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by civilians and not just the soldiers
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actively taking part in the conflict so
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that's again why it's so widely
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remembered and why we have so many
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sauces on it today which as a historians
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grits a book yeah and sort of another
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view aired was the historian Norman
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Davies who argues that the 30 Years War
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can be seen as an age old German
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conflict between emperors and princes
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but that it can also be seen as an
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extension of the international Wars of
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Religion between Catholic and Protestant
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as an important stage in a continental
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power struggle involving most of the
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states and rulers of Europe now
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personally I'm inclined to agree with
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this that it initially started out was a
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wild religion and eventually development
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the aforementioned power struggle so
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thus I think a suitable conclusion would
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be to turn to the words of the acclaimed
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historian of the 30 Years War Veronica
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Wedgwood who wrote her sort of thesis on
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in 1957 and she summarized 30 years of
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conflict in two sentences and she said
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the combatants wanted peace and they
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fought 30 years to be sure of it that
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did not learn then and have not learned
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since that war only breeds war I think
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that's the best way to sum it up really
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so I hope you enjoyed this one like I
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said check out the blog I'll stick the
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link in the description and there feel
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free to share this with your friends and
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family regrets of some more subscribers
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and viewers viewers and stuff coming in
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so thanks very much for listening once
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again I'll see you next time