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right so welcome back to the history and
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20 podcasts everyone uh today i've got a
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very special guest on
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it's uh dr henry knight lozano who is a
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senior lecturer in history and director
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of liberal arts at the university of
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he specializes in u.s expansion place
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promotion race climate and environment
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with the particular folks on the united
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states tropical and semi-tropical
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frontiers california florida and hawaii
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henry has written numerous works around
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this area including this 2013
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publication tropics and hopes california
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florida and the southern of american
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paradise 1869 to 1929 which won the 2013
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florida book award gold medal in florida
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non-fiction and i'll put a link
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in the comments below so you can buy
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that if you want to so thanks for
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joining me henry
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thank you um for the invitation um
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jester and uh yeah it's a great i mean
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former student of mine and great to
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reconnect after after many years
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yeah so if anyone doesn't know henry was
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a lecturer of mine at northumbria
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university when i studied there
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um so that's the connection that uh
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henry and i have so to kick things off
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today we're talking about the gold rush
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so the first sort of question henry is
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what was the gold rush for anyone who
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hasn't heard of it before so where and
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when did it happen
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sure so the um the california gold rush
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began in in earnest in in 1848 really
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the very beginning of 1848 with the
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discovery of gold
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sierra nevada mountains in northern
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california by by a man named james
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marshall
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it's not the first discovery of gold in
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in in the united states in north america
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but it is in many ways the most
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significant because it sets off this um
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enormous um kind of migration of people
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this rush of people
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really from all over the world um you
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get people coming from the eastern
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united states but also from europe from
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all really all around the pacific rim
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south america pacific islands australia
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and in the process it it rapidly
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transforms california the american west
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but also the relationship between those
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places in the world
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that's great thank you very much so it's
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a quick overview of the gold rush for
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anyone who doesn't know that yet so the
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next sort of question i have is
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what kick-started the gold rush would
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you say were there numerous factors so
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sort of the origins behind it was it was
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there a multitude of factors or was it
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just gold was discovered one day and
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then boom explosion
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no it is um
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it is it is a number of factors um so
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you get that initial finding in in late
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january 1848 um
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and there is an effort by these guys
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james marshall and he works for a man
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named john sutter they're building a
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sawmill in the mountains there is an
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effort to try and keep this under wraps
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um you know try and keep it relatively
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secret but um you know word spreads and
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by later in 1848 there's the news spread
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to san francisco which is a relatively
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small town at that point
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um nothing like it will become through
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the gold rush um
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but basically a lot of people leave san
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francisco for the mountains to kind of
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find out is this real um
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but the gold rush as a kind of national
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and international event
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really transforms at the end of that
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year so december 1848 the president man
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named james polk who has been very
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important actually in the u.s annexing
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california it's an important context
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here which is the california was
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previously part of mexico the united
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states has effectively won this
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territory through war um and then
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purchased almost contemporary with these
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james polk in his state of the union
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address which all presidents give
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says he he he's displayed some gold in
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the war department offices and says this
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is real this is not
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um rumor and kind of myth but this gold
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is real the opportunity is there and as
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you'd imagine this kind of stamp of
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authority from a figure like the
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president
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convinces a lot of people that it's
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worth the risk
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the long journey out to california um so
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the time and money and perhaps even you
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know risk of life and limb it's worth it
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because there's gold to be had out there
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so that's why you get the term that's
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december 1848 that's where you get the
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term the 49ers like the nfl team san
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francisco 49ers because 1849 sees a huge
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influx um tens of thousands of people
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going out to california to try and make
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it rich in in the gold fields that's
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great thank you very much
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so that's answered my next question my
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next question as well which was what was
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president pork's reaction and i think
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you've you've explained that really well
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there so thanks for that one so uh
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i just had something there if it's all
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so polk um
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polk had been very keen to to annex
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california
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um partly because of its pacific uh
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frontage and the idea that this would
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link up to you know the asia and other
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opportunities for for the for the united
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states um but he sees and many others
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see the discovery of gold as a kind of
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vindication of the us
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um annex in california
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because it seems from their perspective
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that we've we've annexed california oh
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and magically we've discovered gold and
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there's this kind of belief that it was
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it was destined to happen this way
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you know historically there are other
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factors about why they find it then i
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think because they're cutting down a lot
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of trees and they're looking the
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mountains but for polk it seems a sign
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of kind of destiny yeah all right thank
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you very much great so what were the
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economic effects of the gold rush in the
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california area sort of immediately
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afterwards in like 49 1858 and 51 etc
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were there any immediate economic
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effects or was it more of a longevity
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before it took to arrive
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yeah i mean both it has it has massive
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sort of short-term impacts but also
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long-term i mean in the short term
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it it creates um
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it i mean it floods the the local market
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and beyond with with gold with gold
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coins um which leads to a lot of
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investment and the kind of
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diversification of california's economy
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so while a lot of people are mining
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others quickly realize that actually the
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way to make
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a sustainable living here is is through
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the industries that miners need so for
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example
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you get folks like levi strauss who um
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makes hard-wearing trousers leave levi's
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basically that we know of today
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that are really in demand that
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you know have have sustainable pockets
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and things that all miners want um and
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other industries like that that sort of
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feed off the miners if you like um so it
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establishes is
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you know a kind of a multiplication of
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industries san francisco becomes
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almost overnight a very important port
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and trading center where everyone's kind
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of coming into into the gold region
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and longer term just one example um is
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it it kind of accelerates the desire the
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need for a transcontinental railroad
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because this is obviously far afield
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from the majority of of the population
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of the united states
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and so as california suddenly attracts
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all these people there is a much um
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you know there is a heightened need to
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connect up the west coast with the east
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and they're exploring how to build out
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there a railroad oh brilliant thanks
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very much i know you mentioned there
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though it sort of helped the
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diversification of the economy so going
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into sort of like diversity and stuff so
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with regards to race what sort of
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tensions erupted as a result of the gold
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rush so for example did white people
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benefit more than maybe native americans
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or black americans who were coming over
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just wondering if if we could discuss
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that for a bit
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yeah it's a really really important um
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question and i think it it is um it is a
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critical issue in in gold rush
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california i mean something that
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connects
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all these people both kind of native
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americans but also white americans and
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people from other parts of the world
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they're connected by the desire to to
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find gold and you know in the very early
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years of the gold rush you have native
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americans uh white americans other
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you know coming into to try and find
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gold in the rivers um
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but what happens quite quickly
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particularly in 1849 as the numbers
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increase
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is there is greater tension competition
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for gold and one of the ways in which
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that competition uh manifests is in
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terms of race
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particularly um
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native americans are targeted and become
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you know in some cases there's an effort
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to sort of
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exterminate them if you like from parts
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of northern california um
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that that has degrees of kind of
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state-sanctioned backing the governor of
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california is broadly supportive of an
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effort to kind of remove native
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americans from the gold region um but
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also with mexico and mexicans so very
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recently there's been a war the
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mexican-american war so there's quite a
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lot of tension and bad blood already
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between americans and mexicans
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and a number of mexicans come into
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california as gold miners and are quite
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successful because they've experienced
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mining in in sonora and other places um
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and there's a kind of resentment that
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emerges against them so you get these um
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taxes called foreign miners taxes that
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are passed in california in the early
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1850s which specifically target mexicans
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and chinese immigrants and say well
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you're not welcome here in these mines
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these are for uh
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white american and sometimes european
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they're sometimes much more sympathetic
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to white europeans uh who are also
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foreigners but they are not deemed kind
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of obviously non-white foreigners um so
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yeah it's quite a violent and certainly
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a febrile place where race is is one of
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the important dividers that that
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separates different mining communities
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that's a really interesting point there
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actually because i think a lot of people
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think of the gold rush from what they've
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seen in uh whether it be like western
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movies or anything where
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people are just they're there and
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they're all getting on together and
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having a jolly old time but obviously
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the reality of it was very different
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particularly if you were a minority so
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that sort of leads on to my next
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question here which is kind of like
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obviously when people think of the gold
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rush to think of these of white european
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american men traveling west to
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california to make the fortune but there
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must have been
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obviously women along there or even
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families who lived in those communities
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so how did that social dynamic work and
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what were their experiences like as
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women and uh maybe even children
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yeah yeah it's a really good question
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and i think you raise an important point
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about how the gold rush is is sort of
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memorialized and whose stories are told
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in in popular culture and to an extent
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for a long time in in history um and
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that's about race but it's also about
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gender i mean i think you know the
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dominant image of the gold rush for a
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long time was of was of men at work you
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know these kind of if you look at the
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visual culture that depicted it it was
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almost always men
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out in the mines and there is a there is
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a truth to that i mean if you look at
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the the census
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records of california at that point it
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discounting say the native american
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population for a moment it is very
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predominantly male
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and there are a lot of cultural reasons
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why men
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dominated the the groups who went out to
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california for mining
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but it's important to think think about
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one the fact that there were women who
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who went out in the gold rush wives
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sisters daughters
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and independent women
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but also their experiences within gold
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rush um california because an
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interesting element of this is that
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kind of by their scarcity the fact that
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there were relatively few um
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white women in in california um they
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were very much in demand
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um jobs and work that back east may not
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have paid very well
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things like running boarding houses um
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restaurants um forms of entertainment
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like theater
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so you get these women like luzena
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wilson who opens a boarding house in in
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in the mining country
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and she is actually able to make a lot
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more money doing that than she would
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have back east but also a lot more money
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than her husband is making as a gold
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miner um so there's this kind of
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interesting thing where
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um some women um basically are able to
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maximize i suppose that the
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opportunity because there are not many
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of them all there and you know you get
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these miners accounts saying you know
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i've gone a whole year and i've only
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seen two women in that whole time so
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when they do encounter a woman um you
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know there is this kind of um it's kind
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of a phenomenon that they remark upon um
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that said you asked about families i
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mean it's definitely viewed as a place
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you shouldn't be raising a family you
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shouldn't be because it is a culture
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that's defined by trying to get rich
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drinking gambling
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and to a degree elements of violence um
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very kind of frontier um
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kind of uh community so the mindset both
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of men and many women is that they are
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there for a time a period of time and
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then they are going to leave and they're
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going to hopefully take their winnings
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and go back home so it takes a while for
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california to sort of recover if you
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like from that
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mentality and be seen as a place where
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you might actually want to settle um
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like many other parts of the american
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west which is seen as you know good
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places to settle as a family and have
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your piece of land california's all
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about the gold and all about this kind
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get rich and get out mentality
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right oh that's really interesting so
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did did most people leave then
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after say they've worked there for six
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months a year whatever did they tend to
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leave and go back home or did they
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settle elsewhere on the sort of western
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coast of america or
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yeah it's it's a good question i mean
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it's hard to speak generally because
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it's such a large
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migration of people um but i think you
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see different you see different um
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kind of camps with that if you like so
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you do get a lot who leave who will
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some who have done well and kind of you
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understand that you know they've they've
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sort of beaten the casino and it's time
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to leave um others though
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wait and wait in the hope that they will
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they will get get lucky and i mean an
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important thing to mention here briefly
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is actually the
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the chances of success if you like
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diminish
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partly because there's more people but
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also it gets harder to get at the gold
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so increasingly you need technology you
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need like um hydraulic pumps to to get
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at the goal that's buried in the land
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so that requires money and investment so
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it gets harder and harder for the kind
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of individual miner to make it
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so you get these very sad stories and
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letters home about people who are kind
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of hanging on hanging on in california
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in the hope that their luck's going to
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and then you get others who would stay
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there but abandon mine
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california is a big big state and you
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know there are other opportunities that
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that emerged there so you begin to get
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people turning to farming
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and other industries um you've come a
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very long way if you come out to
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california so sometimes the the decision
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is actually i'm i'm best off staying
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here but doing something else
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yeah so i guess with a lot of the
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sort of overseas immigrants who come
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over that was probably the case as well
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if they hadn't managed to get rich quick
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they're almost stuck there so they had
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to make a living there somehow and
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imagine that experience must have been
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quite difficult for a lot of them given
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the racial tensions at the time
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yeah and i mean a good a good example to
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think about there are the chinese
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diaspora so many of the chinese who come
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over to the gold rush um in the 1850s
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are planning on on going back to china
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um many they're mostly men
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many of them leave their their wives and
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families back in china and they send
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they plan to or they send their their
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money back to china and many of them do
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go back across the pacific but a lot of
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them stay in california and despite
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facing quite a lot of discrimination
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they are banned for example from
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testifying in court um and things like
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they they end up
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kind of migrating to other mining
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frontiers within the west and also many
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of them end up working on the
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transcontinental railroad that i
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mentioned earlier um so while they are
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kind of
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seen as
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unwanted by many white americans they
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actually do a lot of the hard labor uh
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in the west to help kind of build it up
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in that period
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all right that's excellent thanks for
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that so sort of the last main question
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i've got is what what is the legacy of
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the gold rush i know we talked about the
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short-term impacts earlier so maybe a
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better way of phrasing that is what was
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sort of the long-term impact of the gold
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rush in the years and decades that
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followed
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yeah i think i think we could think
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about this in different ways i mean the
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the economic impact is huge and that it
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establishes
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california as this
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pacific
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kind of powerhouse for the united states
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you know we could try to imagine a
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different history where the gold rush
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doesn't happen and i think california is
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a very a very very different place it
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attracts a lot of population
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investment development and so on um i
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think it also creates a mystique for
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california that still
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exists today you know when when people
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talk about somewhere like silicon valley
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they they talk about it in the language
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of the the second or the new gold rush
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and california um you could look at
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hollywood or somewhere as well
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california develops in part through the
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gold rush this this mystique is
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somewhere where you can
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you can transform your life economically
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but also in terms of having a different
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kind of lifestyle a place a place that
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kind of exceptional
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so i think it it
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it really is a seminal event for making
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california what it becomes this kind of
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quite distinctive place in the united
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states but also how we think of
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california around the world
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yeah and it still holds like like you
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mentioned it still holds that sort of
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a lure even today i think people think
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of like we've had obviously the golden
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age of hollywood but um i remember we
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discussed in a lecture once just about
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even the geography of california itself
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you've got like the forests in the north
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and there's like beaches mountains
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everything like that it still holds that
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sort of like it's a mysterious kind of
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uh lure towards it and i think that's
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that definitely could certainly could be
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attributed to the gold rush i think yeah
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absolutely
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so i'll i'll stop the recording there