Hello everyone. My name is Coach David and I'm here with
Ivy League Admission Secrets part of College Admission Secrets.
Today it is August 22nd. It is 6:00 PM and today we're going to
be talking about the Y essays and other supplemental essays that your student
might face as they're going into this application season. But before we do, because we have so many people joining
our different groups and our coaching programs, I do want to introduce
the host of Ivy League, a Mission Secret group. So
first you have me there.
I was a little bit younger,
look a little bit different, but my name is Coach David. I
went to the Claremont Colleges. I studied political
science and Asian studies. I eventually went off to law
school. I worked as an attorney.
I worked on the global legal
affairs team at Samsung. I also worked as an undergraduate
in law school admissions reader, and I have been helping families for the
last 15 years in college admissions and financial aid. I've saved families, bunches of money for college, and I have had students
accepted into all the and all the Ivy plus schools.
Hopefully your student is the
next one that I'm able to help. My co-host is Coach Tony. He's the
founder of College Admission Secrets. I'm sure you guys have seen him around
on Facebook here and there with the Mohawk coach Tony. He has a
very storied past as well.
He got into UCLA and UCI,
but decided to go to uc, Berkeley to get a little bit further
away from home. After he graduated, he worked as a uc,
Berkeley admissions reader. He also worked at UCLA
as an outreach director. Founded in his own charter school, was tiktoks first educational partner
and he has also been helping families for the past 15 years. Now, those
are the two people that you get.
We have a wealth of knowledge and
we want to share with everyone, and we hope that everyone does learn
from our trainings and reaches out to us and engages with us so that we can make
sure to help people along the path to going to college. Now, like I've told you, I've had students go to every single Ivy
League and Ivy Plus school. Obviously, I just put the Ivys on here and
their logos or their kind of emblems.
But in addition to that, we have students in at a
bunch of different schools
as well, Ivy plus schools. Last year we had one of our
students get into Caltech. We had another student get into Rice.
We had another student get into Emory.
We had another student get into
Stanford, Columbia, Cornell. So we have a lot of experience working
with students and getting them to where they want to go. Now in this session today we're going
to talk about the most confusing part of the application, most likely, and
it is the supplemental essays.
We're going to talk about how
to attack the why questions, and we're also going to talk about some
of the weird ones that are out there and how to attack those weird ones. So let's go ahead and kind of
jump straight into it here. Okay.
Now the first thing that I want to make
sure that people understand is where do I find these essays? I literally get questions every
day from our coaching families. Where do I find this essay?
Where do I find that essay?
And the answer is that you're going to
find it in the common application. Now, there are some schools, a very select few that still
have not updated their class of 2025 common application
for this coming year. Most of them have updated everything,
but this is where you find them, you find them, you find them in the common
app, and I know that's very general, but the reason why I say that is because
literally they can be in any section.
You need to look through every single
tab on your common application. You also need to make sure that you are
choosing your major because there may be hidden essays based on your major. You need to make sure to look
in every nook and cranny. Let's go ahead and look at one of those.
Okay, so this is for Cornell, right?
Just wanted to go ahead and make sure
that we had an Ivy League on here that kind of had a little bit of a hidden
situation right now for Cornell. If you look at the left here, it seems
very, very well thought out, right? Okay, so there are questions I need to answer, and then there is a writing supplement
that I need to make sure to get into, and that is where it seems like all
your essays and writing will be.
Unfortunately, that is not the case. There could be writing sections in
the question section of either the application or of the writing supplement.
So make sure you keep that in mind. Now for the questions here
in the writing supplement,
you see we have one about Ezra
Cornell and the question about that, you also have a question about why are
you drawn to studying the major you have selected? And so again, here in Princeton here we see that it is
in the section in the question section. Now also,
you could also find that you're going
to have additional essay questions based on your major. So in the
questions in the academic section, it asks what degree would you
like to pursue at Princeton? Once you choose the majors that you want, you will sometimes see that
as we choose that as we chose Bachelor of science
in engineering at Princeton, you see that an additional essay
pops up. It wasn't there before.
Do you see this? Right before it was
just a bunch of dropdowns. The next one, as soon as you pick a dropdown,
it has an additional question. So when I tell students you need
to search through everything, you need to answer everything so you
can check which kind of essays that you have. This is exactly
what I'm talking about.
So hopefully this kind of points
it out to everybody. Okay? Now, the kind of areas that tend to
have the most hidden questions are nursing, engineering, and business. Those are just normally, those are the
ones that have additional questions, but don't be surprised if you're applying
his history and you have a hidden question just like we see here. Now, what is the takeaway here?
The takeaway here is that there are
probably more essays than you think. You need to make sure to
look at every single section. Make sure that you choose your intended
major so that you can make sure there's no hidden essays and you need
to review, review, review, okay? Now, I know a lot of students,
they kind of just skim through
things instead of skimming through. You really do have to take the time to
make sure you're answering the questions just in case. Now, obviously we're in California one school
where a lot of students are like, oh, okay, yeah, I finished all the
questions and I'm like, are you sure?
Let me see which essays you
wrote. And I'm like, no, you didn't answer all the
questions. Is USC? Now, I know we're talking about Ivy and Ivy
plus, but U USC is ranked in the top 25, so it's kind of up there.
But USC is a school where depending
on what you end up choosing, you might choose the Arts School Roski. You might end up choosing
Marshall for business. You might end up choosing
for turvy for engineering, but depending on what you choose, there will be additional questions
that you need to answer below. Okay?
All right. Now let's kind of
go on to what do they ask you. Now, these are going to be kind of talking
about the different supplemental types that there are on the
common app. Most likely, I do understand that there are some
schools that are on the coalition app or that have their own applications
as well. A couple of weeks ago, we actually went over the MIT
application, the Georgetown application, and the different questions
that they're asking there. Now, I have found that this is the most
feared question out of all the questions on the common app or just during
the college admissions process, but the most feared question
that I have found is why Now as part of our coaching program,
one of the things that we do is
continually ask students why? When they say, you know what,
coach, I want to study engineering. We ask them why. And 80% of the
students I ask, stare back at me, why did you ask me that question?
Or it's a little bit of, I'm not sure how I should answer,
but something that all students, doesn't matter if you're a sixth
grader, seventh grader, 10th grader, 12th grader that you should be asking
yourself is why are you doing the activities that you're doing?
Why are you pushing along on a certain
academic track that you're pushing? These are the important questions. These are how you show how
you have grown and developed. This is also how you show that you
are really interested in the different subject areas that you
have chosen. So the YSA, they might ask a lot of different why's,
but these ones are the most common.
Why do you want to come to our institution
and why do you want to study our major? Now, when they ask
this question, it could be, why do you want to study your major? And it could also be why do you
want to come to our institution? And then that's it. That's the singular
question. Or they might ask you, why do you want to study your
major at our institution?
Which complicates things even further. But I'm going to kind of walk you through
a little bit of the do's and don'ts of the YSA so that you guys can
understand what is good to put, what is not good to put, and I will kind of tell you these things
kind of very straightforwardly so that there's no question.
So this is how we're going
to attack the Y essays. Okay? So the first thing, the
school specific one, why do you want to come to our
institution? So for this one, you need to do your research. If your
essay reads and it's basically saying, oh my gosh, brown, it's such a
good school. It is ranked so high, right? Well, they already know that, okay, they're already very
proud about their school.
You don't need to tell them again. So you need to focus on things about
the school that are not going to change. Let the school know that you have looked
into that school and you are making an informed decision, not based on the
ranking, not based on anything else. It is literally based on your
desire to study at this particular institutions. Right now, like I said
before, or I kind of commented before, they already know that they're good, but they do want you to
brag about their school, but you have to be careful about how
you're doing it because if you do it so generally that it could literally, I can take out Brown and replace
it with Yale or Upen or Cornell.
Then the question is, is it specific enough for this school to
realize that you did do your research? Okay, so what are some things
that you want to talk about? Okay, so the first one is you might want to
find some specific programs that are related to your interest
areas or majors. Okay?
Maybe they have a very specific
program in neuroscience. Maybe they have a very specific
technology and management program. Maybe they have a very specific this
or that program, whatever it is. Maybe that's what you talk about. Again, you want to find things that other people
are not finding. So if it takes you, and I'll talk about this
tip a little bit later, but if it's harder for you to find,
that means less people have found it.
Other things you might want talk about
is student organizations that reflect your passions and values. One of the things that a lot of parents
lose track of as they're thinking about colleges is that your student is not
going to college just to study a hundred percent of the time. 50% of the time, they might be studying maybe
40%, depends on your student, but the other kind of half of
life at college is being part of a community, taking your interests further
through different organizations.
So showing the college that you have
interests that you can follow at that school shows them that you're going to
have that kind of nice integration into their campus community. Tell them about how different aspects
of that particular college will blend seamlessly with your interests,
passion, and convictions.
I always this as an example, but again, I'm not telling to use this as an example
because it's probably overdone at this point, but before the advent of the
internet and more college forums and this and that, there was this tradition at MIT
that not a lot of people knew about, and it was like this piano drop that
they did from the engineering building every year, or it was the physics
building, one of those buildings, but they literally took a piano up to
the roof and dropped it off the roof for some kind of scientific purpose. I'm
guessing. Obviously I'm not a STEM major.
I don't really understand the scientific
reasons behind dropping a piano off the roof, but it was something that
they did every single year. It was an annual thing. Not many
people knew about it though. So if you show them that some of their
traditions or some pieces of their
culture that really shows them that you
went above and beyond and looked further into their school, the one pro tip
that I'll give you here is this, and I'm going to give it
again, but here it is. If you found the information that
you're writing in your Y pen y, Columbia y Harvard essay, if
you found it on the first page, so did 50,000 other students. So
it's not that special anymore.
The more clicks that you have to make
in order to get to the information that you found, the less likely it is
to have been found by other people. Every click, I don't want
to put a number on it, but every click that you
make makes it another 10, 15% less that someone
else is going to find it.
So the more clicks that you can get, the
better your information is going to be. Now, in this kind of why our school essay, here are some things that you don't
want to talk about the location, I get this a lot, but I
tell students all the time, you want to make it seem like
you want to go to this school, even if it was in the middle
of the Alaskan Tundra, even if you had to live in an igloo,
you would want to go to this school.
So unless the school and community are
so intertwined that you cannot talk about one without the other, then I
would not talk about the location. A school that is really, really, really intertwined with the community and
literally the community and the campus are kind of one in the same is
Columbia, among the Ivy League schools, there are other schools that are
very prominent in their communities, but none that are as
connected as Columbia.
So something you keep in mind. Again, another thing that you
don't want to talk about, if I have families that are applying to
Brown this year and you show me an essay that talks about the open curriculum,
I'm going to scrap it right away. The reason is because the open
curriculum at Brown is something that they have literally on their
first page, and to be honest with you, it's really not that special.
It's basically saying that you can
explore your different interests, your first and second year, but
what college can you not do that at? You can that at Harvard, you can do that
at Stanford, you can do that at Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, any of them.
So the open curriculum is just, they patented that term to kind of
talk about their particular program, but it doesn't mean anything different
than what you would get at other schools.
They know it too, but it's like, oh,
brown, automatically open curriculum, and I've actually talked to a couple of
students that are applying to Brown this year and I'm like, if you talk about
that, I'm not even going to read. I'm just going to exit all out. You
need to rewrite it. Other things, you don't want to talk about a
specific professor, what if they leave?
If you're like, oh my God, professor
Green, I really want to study under him, and then when you turn in your
application and then you hear this huge announcement that Professor Green is now
going to Stanford instead of being at Yale, so then your essay just got demolished
and that's not what we want.
And then finally, superficial reasons. There are a lot of pretty
campuses around the world, but because the campus is pretty should
not be a reason that you want to go there. That's just the perk of going to
the college that really fits your needs academically and socially and community
wise. Okay, so these are things, some things not to talk about. Now, let's move on to the major specific
things. Again, like I said, this is something that we ask our
coaching students as they're entering our program, whether they're a sixth,
seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th grader. We ask them, why do you
want to study the major you are choosing?
Now, a lot of our students, again,
like I said, either are blank, they don't know what to say
or they kind of bring up, I'll kind of give you an example of some
of the things that I've heard recently. So a lot of things that
I've heard recently, I've had a lot of students that are
interested in mechanical engineering, and do you know what all of their
answers are? I love building, I like being creative. I like
working with my hands. Now, there's probably some people out in
the audience right now that are like, oh my God, that's what my kid
wrote. I thought it was really good.
Unfortunately, that's what 50,000
other kids are writing as well. There needs to be a deeper drive of why
your student wants to study that major. Now, I understand that for some
students, one of the main focuses of studying a certain major is job
security and money. Of course, we need money to live everyone.
They want to feel appreciated and they
want to have a job that they're good at. That's definitely great, but for a high school student
that is headed off to college, kind of hopes and dreams
still need to be there. There needs to be a deeper purpose than
I want to make a living at this age.
Now, parents, I get it, if you
had that mindset, but students, that shouldn't be what
it's about right now. So when you're thinking about
the major specific question, why do you want to study your major?
Focus on what got you interested, how you hope to expand your learning
at blank College through blank.
I just gave you a very simple template. Another way to think about it
is what is your origin story? Everyone has seen a superhero movie,
whether it's Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, all the mans. There's a reason why they got their
superpowers, why they want to fight crime, why they're evil, whatever it is,
whether they're a superhero or villain, and so you need to get to the core
of what led you down this path.
That is what they're
looking for here. Now, here are some things that you
want to talk about. Again, there may be research opportunities
you want to take advantage of, but you need to be specific. How do
the things that you have been learning, how are they going to help with that
research process that is happening right now?
Another thing is finding opportunities
at the campus that are different than others. Maybe there's a specific summer program
that takes you to Antarctica that no other school has. Maybe there's an internship program
that takes you to inner city schools, and that's really what you want to
do. You want to teach, right? Again, you have to show them that this is
kind of like your calling, right?
Maybe there's a faculty lecture series
that distinguishes a particular college. When I was going to
declare Claremont Colleges, we had this thing called the
Athenaeum. I think it was once a month. They would bring in a panel of guest
speakers about a certain topic, and then they would serve us dinner at
the athenaeum, and then we would get, there was only 25 seats available,
so you had to sign up really quickly, but there was 25 seats.
You got got to hear these kind of world
around people talk and have dinner with them, which was a really
cool thing. Now, obviously, there are these kind of programs
at the Ivy Leagues as well, and then another way to think about
it is tell them why studying blank, the major at this college will help you
get further. Don't just tell them, oh, it's going to help me get further.
You have to tell them exactly
how it's going to do that. Again, same thing about all these different
things you're finding the summer programs, the different ways that it's
going to push you forward, the research opportunities,
if you found it after a click, it's too many people are going to find it.
You need to make sure that you get
further into the website, further into the repertoire of the different things
that are further in the website, like the research and those
different types of programs. Okay? Alright, what not to talk about.
So a lot of students start talking about
the ranking again when they're talking about why you want to
study your major. Oh, you guys are ranked
number 43 in engineering, and I really want to go
just namedropping classes. If you name drop classes, you need to tell them why that's so
important to you that college has that for your particular major, randomly
putting in college course names, talking about particular professors
or famous people from that school.
I think I've read probably close to 50
or 60 essays of students applying to Harvard that use the name
Zuckerberg, and I'm like, as soon as I see it, my brain shuts off. That's probably what happens
to the Harvard readers as well. Just because someone famous went there,
doesn't matter. They already know.
They already gave him his honorary
degree, so they know he went there. We all get it, but that's not why
you want to go to that school. That's just a perk of people
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Now the process is coming up very shortly, so back to our training now. So I also wanted to highlight some of
the weird essays that different schools have. The reason why I do this is because
there is a very large range of things that they're
going to be asking for, but you really need to be able to
understand exactly what the question is asking. So let's kind
of dive right into some, and you're probably going
to be like, oh my God, I don't even know how I would
answer this as an adult.
That's 30, 40, 50, 60 years old. So let's go ahead and take a
look at University of Chicago. These are some of their questions. Now, university of Chicago
gives you about a page, so about 500 to write on an essay of
your topic or a topic of your choice
or choose one of the previous
year's topics. Literally,
these are the questions. What's so odd about odd numbers? Where's Waldo find X? In these questions, there is obviously
they give you a little bit of direction, but for the first one, there is no
direction they give for the Where's Waldo.
It says, in essence, tell us about a time when you had to
find yourself among a group of people, so they want to learn about how you
grew and developed, right? Find X. This is a variation of a typical math
problem where X is unknown. Here, applicants can take the prompt
in any direction they choose.
It seems like they give
you a direction to go into, but they literally give you no direction, so you have to define
the premise yourself. These types of questions are very
difficult because a lot of students, they start writing and they ramble
and then they get off topic.
So you have to understand exactly where
you're headed when you're writing these essays that have a little bit more
of a wide breath given to them. Okay, Tufts, there's another one that
says, celebrate your nerdy side. So they're telling us, Hey, if there's something that you're really
passionate about and you kind of geek out about, tell us about it.
There's another one that says, create a short story piece of fiction
or nonfiction work that represents you.
Again, they want to understand who you
are. It's not about what you've done. I don't think there would ever be a
short story in the world that says, oh, I took this class, then I took this class, and then I took this class and I took
this class. But a lot of our students, that's what they end up doing.
One of the things in our coaching program
that we teach is that you need to be authentic, but for a lot of students, they don't really know how
to talk about themselves, and so the example that I give at the
beginning of every roadmap as we go over the authenticity portion of our values
is have you ever introduced yourself by saying, hi, my name's
David. I took 12 AP classes.
Now, if you are a student that has
done that, I'm a little scared. If you're a parent that has
done that, I'm a little scared. But here's the thing, most
people have not done that, and the reason is because when you're
telling or you're introducing yourself to new friends, it doesn't matter how
many AP classes you have, how many A, BS or cs.
The real kind of question is do you have
a connection with that person? Okay, so colleges want to see that as well.
They want to see who you are as a person. And then the last one here, it's like whether you've built
circuit boards or written slam poetry, created a community event or
designed mixed media installations, tell us what have you
invented, engineered, produced, or designed or what do you hope
to, right? It's all about you, what your dreams are, what your
goals are, what your values are, and how you're going to get there.
They never ask you how many
AP classes have you taken? They already see that in your
transcript. They don't need to ask you. You don't need to say, I did this and this activity and I had a
thousand hours here and 2000 hours here because they already see that
in your activities right? Now, I'm not saying that
there can't be overlap, but the focus of it should be
on your growth and development.
That's what colleges
are looking for. Yale, they say You are teaching a Yale
course. What is it called? Right? Again, they want to see what you're
interested and passionate about.
They have another one reflect on your
engagement with the community to which you belong. How do you feel you have
contributed to this community? They're trying to see that community
service aspect and then literally in the last one, they tell you exactly
what they want, what inspires you, what makes your heart beat.
That's what they want to know.
They want to know more about who you are, how you're going to fit on their campus.
Stanford, this is a very famous one. There's actually colleges that
have copied this question, and it is basically the roommate question, write a note to your future roommate
that reveals something about you or that will help your roommate and us know you
better. Again, it's not about academics.
It's not about your activities
or your achievements. They want to know about you as a person. They also have another
question here that says, the Stanford community is deeply curious
and driven to learn in and out of the classroom.
Reflect on an idea or experience that
makes you generally excited about learning. Again, it's what makes you tick and what is the
most significant challenge that society faces today? Again, they want to know
what you think is important here.
Stanford wants to know who their student
is so that they can make sure the right students are coming. So here are the takeaways
from our supplemental essays. This is not you bragging about the school, but about how you and your
values fit into their campus.
You want to be able to show
that you are the right fit, but I don't want students to
create a persona in order to try to fit into every school. Every
student is their own person, and if a school says, Hey,
you're not the right fit here. Then the student as a student, you
should be like, okay, that's all right, because if I went there,
I probably wouldn't be a
hundred percent happy. Anyway, that doesn't matter. If we're talking
about Ivy Leagues, Ivy plus top 50, top a hundred, top 500 schools, and then the final thing here is make
sure that you are not reciting like a brochure. There are some times where I
read student's why this school essay, and I'm like, wow, you should send that to the admissions
office because the admissions office would love to use that in
one of their pamphlets.
If that's the kind of feeling that
you get after you read your essay, you're not going down the right
track. It should be specific to you. It should be specific to that college,
and it should be things that again, you have researched into heavily
now like we do every week.
I want to invite those families that are
not in our coaching program yet to work with us. Now, how this
works is very simple. I'm going to share what our
coaching programs look like. If you do want to have a meeting with
us, I will have the link at the end, but very simply, our first meeting is
we're going to learn more about you, about your family situation,
about your student, to see what would work best for you, and then if you are interested in
talking to us again about the different programs, we'll go ahead and make sure that we set
up another appointment with you to talk about the different programs and
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ran out of space and we sold out.
But the college app intensive is also
included as part of your program. We have customized roadmap
calls weekly and monthly. We also have daily coaching. We
have office hours all the time, and it's a one price deal, lifetime access from this time you start
all the way until you graduate from high school. So I'm going to go ahead
and send those links into the chat, but at this time, I would like to kind of open it up for q
and a to make sure that people are able to answer their questions and that I
can help you guys out that way. Okay, so there are two links here. The
first one is for financial aid.
The second one is to set up an
assessment for your student, so q and a, if anyone has questions.
Again, there's no wrong questions. I know that a lot of people in here
might be a little bit shellshocked or there's just too much information being
thrown at you and you need a little minute to process. So process, but please ask your questions and
if you're in our Facebook group, reach out to us on Facebook. If
you're in our coaching program, reach out to us in your discord
channels or support channels, or if you don't really know how to use
any of those and you've got an email from us, email us back so we can give
you the information that you need.
So I'm going to go ahead and
post those links one more time, make sure to copy and paste
them or have them available, but let's open it up for q and a and
make sure that we answer some questions. So I'll kind of wait until
the first one comes in. Okay, and just one more time, for those families that are looking
to get help for their seniors on college essays, you can text
SA to 4 1 5 9 3 8 8 7 2 1.
All right. Okay, I'm not seeing any questions, which that means I did a really good job today
of answering all the questions that might come up, but once
again, we are here to help. We want to make sure that your path
to college is as easy and efficient as possible. So again, please make sure to have
those links for financial aid.
Make sure to save some money for
the assessment with our team. Make sure to at least get some information
that makes you head down the right track. I feel like there's a lot of families
that come in with different pieces of information from this
person and that person, and they had a consultation with
this company and that company, and then everything gets molded
together and it's not anything usable because there's too many pieces
from too many different sources.
Now, getting the information from one
group that has been through this for a collective 35, 40 plus years, that's what you want on
your side. All right, so I don't see any additional
questions, but again,
you're free to reach out to us at
any time. I will be closing down now. If you guys do have questions, let us know and always this
happens. But let's go ahead.
There is a question here and it says,
for the awards and honors section, should I put an AP award, AP
scholar opportunity or scholarship? I got from my Homes Town Scholarship
Foundation to tour colleges based on my community service. So again, I'm not exactly sure which
application you're talking about, but the awards and honors section for
the common application is actually supposed to be academic awards.
So the only one that you would be able
to put is the one for the AP award. If you're talking about
the uc application, then
on the uc application, yes, you can put both of
those awards, but again, you have to think about
what the process was. Was there a selection process or did you
just turn in an application with your name and where you went to school?
So is this something that is
worthwhile putting on there or not? Now on the common app, while the awards or honors
section is just for academic things, if you did want to talk about
your scholarship because
it meant a lot to you and it was like a grueling process
to get through that, then sure, you can put it in the
additional information section, but it wouldn't necessarily go into
that awards and honors section.
So hopefully that answers
real question there. So we have another question that says how
many essays are required for the common app for each school? As I showed
you before, it really depends.
It could be anything from zero to 12. So it really depends on which schools
you're applying to and also what major you are. So it really depends. That's why at the beginning of
our training we went through, here's how you find all
the ones that you need.
Just finding all of them is a task
in itself. So you need to go in, you need to fill out all the information,
fill out all your common apps stuff, fill out the majors, fill out the,
I'm applying early or regular. I'm applying as an engineering student,
as this student, as that student, to make sure that you find all the essays
and the essays could be anywhere in any single tab. Okay?
Oh, the questions are
rolling now. So it says, what are examples of things that can go
in the honor section of the common app? I have awards and honors on my resume, but I don't know which ones
should be on my common app. So technically you have five slots
in the common app to add things.
They should be academic, right? So let's say you got an award in your
biology class that can go on there, right? Let's say you got honor roll at your
school. That can go on there right now. Let's say that you went to Biology
Olympiad. That can go on there, or you did academic decathlon. That
can go on there. MUN can go on there.
Speech and debate can go on there. So
there's just a lot of different things. If you went to a hackathon that's more
academic related because it is related to one of the subjects that you're
studying, that can go on there. But other things like arts awards or
athletic awards or community service awards don't technically fit in that box.
Okay? Alright. Okay. I thought there was going to be
a whole barrage of questions, but there's only a couple. But again,
thank you guys for being here with me.
If you do have additional questions,
make sure to reach out to us and again, book that breakthrough session,
book that financial aid call. The earlier you sign up, the better because the more that we're
going to be able to help you with either of them with the financial
aid or with the college, kind of our college coaching program.
So everyone have a good night.
So I'm actually going to be headed
down to UCLA this weekend to help our students at the college application
intensives, sorry to say, for families that are like, oh my god,
what's that? You snooze, you lose. It's a two day weekend event where we
are helping our seniors get a jumpstart and or even finish their applications.
So for those that are kind of late to
the party or they heard about it a bunch of times and they weren't able to
sign up or they didn't sign up, unfortunately we're out of seats now, but the college essay
service is still available. So if you're interested in that, go
ahead and reach out about that. Okay,
so I'll see some of the families in here. I do see that I'll be seeing them this
weekend. So I look forward to that. And for everyone else, you'll
have Coach Tony next week, but I will be back in two
weeks at the beginning of September with hopefully some new news
about some updates to the Common app and any changes that have
happened. Okay? Alright, everyone, have a good night and I will talk to
you again in a couple weeks. Bye bye.
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Hello everyone.
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My name is Coach David and I'm here with
Ivy League Admission Secrets part of
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College Admission Secrets.
Today it is August 22nd.
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It is 6:00 PM and today we're going to
be talking about the Y essays and other
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supplemental essays that your student
might face as they're going into this
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application season. But before we do,
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because we have so many people joining
our different groups and our coaching
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programs, I do want to introduce
the host of Ivy League,
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a Mission Secret group. So
first you have me there.
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I was a little bit younger,
look a little bit different,
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but my name is Coach David. I
went to the Claremont Colleges.
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I studied political
science and Asian studies.
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I eventually went off to law
school. I worked as an attorney.
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I worked on the global legal
affairs team at Samsung.
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I also worked as an undergraduate
in law school admissions reader,
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and I have been helping families for the
last 15 years in college admissions and
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financial aid. I've saved families,
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bunches of money for college,
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and I have had students
accepted into all the
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and all the Ivy plus schools.
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Hopefully your student is the
next one that I'm able to help.
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My co-host is Coach Tony. He's the
founder of College Admission Secrets.
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I'm sure you guys have seen him around
on Facebook here and there with the
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Mohawk coach Tony. He has a
very storied past as well.
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He got into UCLA and UCI,
but decided to go to uc,
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Berkeley to get a little bit further
away from home. After he graduated,
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he worked as a uc,
Berkeley admissions reader.
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He also worked at UCLA
as an outreach director.
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Founded in his own charter school,
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was tiktoks first educational partner
and he has also been helping families for
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the past 15 years. Now, those
are the two people that you get.
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We have a wealth of knowledge and
we want to share with everyone,
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and we hope that everyone does learn
from our trainings and reaches out to us
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and engages with us so that we can make
sure to help people along the path to
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going to college. Now, like I've told you,
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I've had students go to every single Ivy
League and Ivy Plus school. Obviously,
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I just put the Ivys on here and
their logos or their kind of emblems.
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But in addition to that,
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we have students in at a
bunch of different schools
as well, Ivy plus schools.
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Last year we had one of our
students get into Caltech.
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We had another student get into Rice.
We had another student get into Emory.
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We had another student get into
Stanford, Columbia, Cornell.
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So we have a lot of experience working
with students and getting them to where
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they want to go.
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Now in this session today we're going
to talk about the most confusing part of
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the application, most likely, and
it is the supplemental essays.
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We're going to talk about how
to attack the why questions,
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and we're also going to talk about some
of the weird ones that are out there and
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how to attack those weird ones.
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So let's go ahead and kind of
jump straight into it here. Okay.
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Now the first thing that I want to make
sure that people understand is where do
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I find these essays?
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I literally get questions every
day from our coaching families.
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Where do I find this essay?
Where do I find that essay?
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And the answer is that you're going to
find it in the common application. Now,
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there are some schools,
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a very select few that still
have not updated their class of
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2025 common application
for this coming year.
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Most of them have updated everything,
but this is where you find them,
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you find them, you find them in the common
app, and I know that's very general,
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but the reason why I say that is because
literally they can be in any section.
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You need to look through every single
tab on your common application.
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You also need to make sure that you are
choosing your major because there may be
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hidden essays based on your major.
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You need to make sure to look
in every nook and cranny.
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Let's go ahead and look at one of those.
Okay, so this is for Cornell, right?
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Just wanted to go ahead and make sure
that we had an Ivy League on here that
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kind of had a little bit of a hidden
situation right now for Cornell.
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If you look at the left here, it seems
very, very well thought out, right? Okay,
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so there are questions I need to answer,
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and then there is a writing supplement
that I need to make sure to get into,
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and that is where it seems like all
your essays and writing will be.
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Unfortunately, that is not the case.
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There could be writing sections in
the question section of either the
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application or of the writing supplement.
So make sure you keep that in mind.
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Now for the questions here
in the writing supplement,
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you see we have one about Ezra
Cornell and the question about that,
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you also have a question about why are
you drawn to studying the major you have
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selected? And so again,
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here in Princeton here we see that it is
in the section in the question section.
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Now also,
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you could also find that you're going
to have additional essay questions based
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on your major. So in the
questions in the academic section,
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it asks what degree would you
like to pursue at Princeton?
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Once you choose the majors that you want,
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you will sometimes see that
as we choose that as we
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chose Bachelor of science
in engineering at Princeton,
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you see that an additional essay
pops up. It wasn't there before.
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Do you see this? Right before it was
just a bunch of dropdowns. The next one,
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as soon as you pick a dropdown,
it has an additional question.
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So when I tell students you need
to search through everything,
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you need to answer everything so you
can check which kind of essays that you
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have. This is exactly
what I'm talking about.
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So hopefully this kind of points
it out to everybody. Okay? Now,
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the kind of areas that tend to
have the most hidden questions are
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nursing, engineering, and business.
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Those are just normally, those are the
ones that have additional questions,
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but don't be surprised if you're applying
his history and you have a hidden
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question just like we see here. Now,
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what is the takeaway here?
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The takeaway here is that there are
probably more essays than you think.
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You need to make sure to
look at every single section.
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Make sure that you choose your intended
major so that you can make sure there's
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no hidden essays and you need
to review, review, review, okay?
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Now, I know a lot of students,
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they kind of just skim through
things instead of skimming through.
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You really do have to take the time to
make sure you're answering the questions
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just in case. Now,
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obviously we're in California one school
where a lot of students are like, oh,
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okay, yeah, I finished all the
questions and I'm like, are you sure?
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Let me see which essays you
wrote. And I'm like, no,
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you didn't answer all the
questions. Is USC? Now,
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I know we're talking about Ivy and Ivy
plus, but U USC is ranked in the top 25,
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so it's kind of up there.
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But USC is a school where depending
on what you end up choosing,
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you might choose the Arts School Roski.
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You might end up choosing
Marshall for business.
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You might end up choosing
for turvy for engineering,
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but depending on what you choose,
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there will be additional questions
that you need to answer below. Okay?
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All right. Now let's kind of
go on to what do they ask you.
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these are going to be kind of talking
about the different supplemental types
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that there are on the
common app. Most likely,
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I do understand that there are some
schools that are on the coalition app or
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that have their own applications
as well. A couple of weeks ago,
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we actually went over the MIT
application, the Georgetown application,
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and the different questions
that they're asking there. Now,
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I have found that this is the most
feared question out of all the questions
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on the common app or just during
the college admissions process,
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but the most feared question
that I have found is why
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Now as part of our coaching program,
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one of the things that we do is
continually ask students why?
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When they say, you know what,
coach, I want to study engineering.
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We ask them why. And 80% of the
students I ask, stare back at me,
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why did you ask me that question?
Or it's a little bit of,
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I'm not sure how I should answer,
but something that all students,
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doesn't matter if you're a sixth
grader, seventh grader, 10th grader,
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12th grader that you should be asking
yourself is why are you doing the
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activities that you're doing?
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Why are you pushing along on a certain
academic track that you're pushing?
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These are the important questions.
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These are how you show how
you have grown and developed.
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This is also how you show that you
are really interested in the different
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subject areas that you
have chosen. So the YSA,
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they might ask a lot of different why's,
but these ones are the most common.
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Why do you want to come to our institution
and why do you want to study our
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major? Now, when they ask
this question, it could be,
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why do you want to study your major?
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And it could also be why do you
want to come to our institution?
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And then that's it. That's the singular
question. Or they might ask you,
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why do you want to study your
major at our institution?
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Which complicates things even further.
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But I'm going to kind of walk you through
a little bit of the do's and don'ts of
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the YSA so that you guys can
understand what is good to put,
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what is not good to put,
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and I will kind of tell you these things
kind of very straightforwardly so that
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there's no question.
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So this is how we're going
to attack the Y essays. Okay?
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So the first thing, the
school specific one,
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why do you want to come to our
institution? So for this one,
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you need to do your research. If your
essay reads and it's basically saying,
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oh my gosh, brown, it's such a
good school. It is ranked so high,
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right? Well, they already know that, okay,
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they're already very
proud about their school.
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You don't need to tell them again.
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So you need to focus on things about
the school that are not going to change.
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Let the school know that you have looked
into that school and you are making an
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informed decision, not based on the
ranking, not based on anything else.
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It is literally based on your
desire to study at this particular
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institutions. Right now, like I said
before, or I kind of commented before,
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they already know that they're good,
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but they do want you to
brag about their school,
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but you have to be careful about how
you're doing it because if you do it so
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generally that it could literally,
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I can take out Brown and replace
it with Yale or Upen or Cornell.
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Then the question is,
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is it specific enough for this school to
realize that you did do your research?
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Okay, so what are some things
that you want to talk about? Okay,
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so the first one is you might want to
find some specific programs that are
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related to your interest
areas or majors. Okay?
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Maybe they have a very specific
program in neuroscience.
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Maybe they have a very specific
technology and management program.
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Maybe they have a very specific this
or that program, whatever it is.
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Maybe that's what you talk about. Again,
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you want to find things that other people
are not finding. So if it takes you,
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and I'll talk about this
tip a little bit later,
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but if it's harder for you to find,
that means less people have found it.
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Other things you might want talk about
is student organizations that reflect
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your passions and values.
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One of the things that a lot of parents
lose track of as they're thinking about
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colleges is that your student is not
going to college just to study a hundred
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percent of the time. 50% of the time,
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they might be studying maybe
40%, depends on your student,
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but the other kind of half of
life at college is being part of
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a community,
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taking your interests further
through different organizations.
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So showing the college that you have
interests that you can follow at that
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school shows them that you're going to
have that kind of nice integration into
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their campus community.
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Tell them about how different aspects
of that particular college will blend
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seamlessly with your interests,
passion, and convictions.
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I always this as an example, but again,
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I'm not telling to use this as an example
because it's probably overdone at this
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but before the advent of the
internet and more college forums and
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this and that,
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there was this tradition at MIT
that not a lot of people knew about,
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and it was like this piano drop that
they did from the engineering building
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every year, or it was the physics
building, one of those buildings,
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but they literally took a piano up to
the roof and dropped it off the roof for
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some kind of scientific purpose. I'm
guessing. Obviously I'm not a STEM major.
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I don't really understand the scientific
reasons behind dropping a piano off the
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roof, but it was something that
they did every single year.
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It was an annual thing. Not many
people knew about it though.
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So if you show them that some of their
traditions or some pieces of their
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culture that really shows them that you
went above and beyond and looked further
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into their school, the one pro tip
that I'll give you here is this,
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and I'm going to give it
again, but here it is.
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If you found the information that
you're writing in your Y pen y,
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Columbia y Harvard essay, if
you found it on the first page,
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so did 50,000 other students. So
it's not that special anymore.
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The more clicks that you have to make
in order to get to the information that
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you found, the less likely it is
to have been found by other people.
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Every click, I don't want
to put a number on it,
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but every click that you
make makes it another 10,
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15% less that someone
else is going to find it.
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So the more clicks that you can get, the
better your information is going to be.
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Now, in this kind of why our school essay,
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here are some things that you don't
want to talk about the location,
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I get this a lot, but I
tell students all the time,
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you want to make it seem like
you want to go to this school,
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even if it was in the middle
of the Alaskan Tundra,
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even if you had to live in an igloo,
you would want to go to this school.
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So unless the school and community are
so intertwined that you cannot talk
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about one without the other, then I
would not talk about the location.
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A school that is really, really,
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really intertwined with the community and
literally the community and the campus
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are kind of one in the same is
Columbia, among the Ivy League schools,
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there are other schools that are
very prominent in their communities,
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but none that are as
connected as Columbia.
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So something you keep in mind. Again,
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another thing that you
don't want to talk about,
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if I have families that are applying to
Brown this year and you show me an essay
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that talks about the open curriculum,
I'm going to scrap it right away.
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The reason is because the open
curriculum at Brown is something
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that they have literally on their
first page, and to be honest with you,
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it's really not that special.
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It's basically saying that you can
explore your different interests,
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your first and second year, but
what college can you not do that at?
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You can that at Harvard, you can do that
at Stanford, you can do that at Yale,
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Princeton, Dartmouth, any of them.
So the open curriculum is just,
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they patented that term to kind of
talk about their particular program,
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but it doesn't mean anything different
than what you would get at other schools.
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They know it too, but it's like, oh,
brown, automatically open curriculum,
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and I've actually talked to a couple of
students that are applying to Brown this
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year and I'm like, if you talk about
that, I'm not even going to read.
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I'm just going to exit all out. You
need to rewrite it. Other things,
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you don't want to talk about a
specific professor, what if they leave?
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If you're like, oh my God, professor
Green, I really want to study under him,
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and then when you turn in your
application and then you hear this huge
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announcement that Professor Green is now
going to Stanford instead of being at
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so then your essay just got demolished
and that's not what we want.
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And then finally, superficial reasons.
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There are a lot of pretty
campuses around the world,
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but because the campus is pretty should
not be a reason that you want to go
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there. That's just the perk of going to
the college that really fits your needs
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academically and socially and community
wise. Okay, so these are things,
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some things not to talk about. Now,
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let's move on to the major specific
things. Again, like I said,
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this is something that we ask our
coaching students as they're entering our
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program, whether they're a sixth,
seventh, eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th,
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12th grader. We ask them, why do you
want to study the major you are choosing?
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Now, a lot of our students, again,
like I said, either are blank,
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they don't know what to say
or they kind of bring up,
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I'll kind of give you an example of some
of the things that I've heard recently.
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So a lot of things that
I've heard recently,
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I've had a lot of students that are
interested in mechanical engineering,
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and do you know what all of their
answers are? I love building,
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I like being creative. I like
working with my hands. Now,
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there's probably some people out in
the audience right now that are like,
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oh my God, that's what my kid
wrote. I thought it was really good.
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Unfortunately, that's what 50,000
other kids are writing as well.
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There needs to be a deeper drive of why
your student wants to study that major.
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Now, I understand that for some
students, one of the main focuses of
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studying a certain major is job
security and money. Of course,
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we need money to live everyone.
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They want to feel appreciated and they
want to have a job that they're good at.
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That's definitely great,
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but for a high school student
that is headed off to college,
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kind of hopes and dreams
still need to be there.
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There needs to be a deeper purpose than
I want to make a living at this age.
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Now, parents, I get it, if you
had that mindset, but students,
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that shouldn't be what
it's about right now.
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So when you're thinking about
the major specific question,
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why do you want to study your major?
Focus on what got you interested,
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how you hope to expand your learning
at blank College through blank.
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I just gave you a very simple template.
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Another way to think about it
is what is your origin story?
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Everyone has seen a superhero movie,
whether it's Batman, Superman,
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Spider-Man, all the mans.
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There's a reason why they got their
superpowers, why they want to fight crime,
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why they're evil, whatever it is,
whether they're a superhero or villain,
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and so you need to get to the core
of what led you down this path.
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That is what they're
looking for here. Now,
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here are some things that you
want to talk about. Again,
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there may be research opportunities
you want to take advantage of,
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but you need to be specific. How do
the things that you have been learning,
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how are they going to help with that
research process that is happening right
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Another thing is finding opportunities
at the campus that are different than
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others.
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Maybe there's a specific summer program
that takes you to Antarctica that no
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other school has.
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Maybe there's an internship program
that takes you to inner city schools,
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and that's really what you want to
do. You want to teach, right? Again,
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you have to show them that this is
kind of like your calling, right?
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Maybe there's a faculty lecture series
that distinguishes a particular college.
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When I was going to
declare Claremont Colleges,
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we had this thing called the
Athenaeum. I think it was once a month.
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They would bring in a panel of guest
speakers about a certain topic,
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and then they would serve us dinner at
the athenaeum, and then we would get,
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there was only 25 seats available,
so you had to sign up really quickly,
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but there was 25 seats.
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You got got to hear these kind of world
around people talk and have dinner with
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them, which was a really
cool thing. Now, obviously,
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there are these kind of programs
at the Ivy Leagues as well,
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and then another way to think about
it is tell them why studying blank,
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the major at this college will help you
get further. Don't just tell them, oh,
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it's going to help me get further.
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You have to tell them exactly
how it's going to do that. Again,
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same thing about all these different
things you're finding the summer programs,
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the different ways that it's
going to push you forward,
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the research opportunities,
if you found it after a click,
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it's too many people are going to find it.
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You need to make sure that you get
further into the website, further into
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the repertoire of the different things
that are further in the website,
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like the research and those
different types of programs. Okay?
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Alright, what not to talk about.
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So a lot of students start talking about
the ranking again when they're talking
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about why you want to
study your major. Oh,
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you guys are ranked
number 43 in engineering,
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and I really want to go
just namedropping classes.
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If you name drop classes,
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you need to tell them why that's so
important to you that college has that for
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your particular major, randomly
putting in college course names,
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talking about particular professors
or famous people from that school.
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I think I've read probably close to 50
or 60 essays of students applying to
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Harvard that use the name
Zuckerberg, and I'm like,
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as soon as I see it, my brain shuts off.
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That's probably what happens
to the Harvard readers as well.
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Just because someone famous went there,
doesn't matter. They already know.
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They already gave him his honorary
degree, so they know he went there.
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We all get it, but that's not why
you want to go to that school.
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That's just a perk of people
knowing more about your school.
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Now, before we go a little bit
further into the weird ones,
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a word from our sponsor.
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so back to our training now.
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So I also wanted to highlight some of
the weird essays that different schools
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The reason why I do this is because
there is a very large range of
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things that they're
going to be asking for,
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but you really need to be able to
understand exactly what the question is
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asking. So let's kind
of dive right into some,
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and you're probably going
to be like, oh my God,
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I don't even know how I would
answer this as an adult.
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That's 30, 40, 50, 60 years old.
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So let's go ahead and take a
look at University of Chicago.
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These are some of their questions. Now,
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university of Chicago
gives you about a page,
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so about 500 to write on an essay of
your topic or a topic of your choice
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or choose one of the previous
year's topics. Literally,
these are the questions.
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What's so odd about odd numbers?
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Where's Waldo find X?
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In these questions, there is obviously
they give you a little bit of direction,
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but for the first one, there is no
direction they give for the Where's Waldo.
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It says, in essence,
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tell us about a time when you had to
find yourself among a group of people,
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so they want to learn about how you
grew and developed, right? Find X.
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This is a variation of a typical math
problem where X is unknown. Here,
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applicants can take the prompt
in any direction they choose.
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It seems like they give
you a direction to go into,
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but they literally give you no direction,
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so you have to define
the premise yourself.
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These types of questions are very
difficult because a lot of students,
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they start writing and they ramble
and then they get off topic.
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So you have to understand exactly where
you're headed when you're writing these
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essays that have a little bit more
of a wide breath given to them. Okay,
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Tufts, there's another one that
says, celebrate your nerdy side.
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So they're telling us, Hey,
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if there's something that you're really
passionate about and you kind of geek
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out about, tell us about it.
There's another one that says,
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create a short story piece of fiction
or nonfiction work that represents you.
[25:06] (1506.95s)
Again, they want to understand who you
are. It's not about what you've done.
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I don't think there would ever be a
short story in the world that says, oh,
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I took this class, then I took this class,
[25:16] (1516.31s)
and then I took this class and I took
this class. But a lot of our students,
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that's what they end up doing.
[25:22] (1522.22s)
One of the things in our coaching program
that we teach is that you need to be
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authentic, but for a lot of students,
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they don't really know how
to talk about themselves,
[25:31] (1531.04s)
and so the example that I give at the
beginning of every roadmap as we go over
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the authenticity portion of our values
is have you ever introduced yourself by
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saying, hi, my name's
David. I took 12 AP classes.
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Now, if you are a student that has
done that, I'm a little scared.
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If you're a parent that has
done that, I'm a little scared.
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But here's the thing, most
people have not done that,
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and the reason is because when you're
telling or you're introducing yourself to
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new friends, it doesn't matter how
many AP classes you have, how many A,
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BS or cs.
[26:06] (1566.32s)
The real kind of question is do you have
a connection with that person? Okay,
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so colleges want to see that as well.
They want to see who you are as a person.
[26:17] (1577.21s)
And then the last one here,
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it's like whether you've built
circuit boards or written slam poetry,
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created a community event or
designed mixed media installations,
[26:24] (1584.41s)
tell us what have you
invented, engineered, produced,
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or designed or what do you hope
to, right? It's all about you,
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what your dreams are, what your
goals are, what your values are,
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and how you're going to get there.
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They never ask you how many
AP classes have you taken?
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They already see that in your
transcript. They don't need to ask you.
[26:41] (1601.81s)
You don't need to say,
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I did this and this activity and I had a
thousand hours here and 2000 hours here
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because they already see that
in your activities right? Now,
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I'm not saying that
there can't be overlap,
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but the focus of it should be
on your growth and development.
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That's what colleges
are looking for. Yale,
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they say You are teaching a Yale
course. What is it called? Right? Again,
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they want to see what you're
interested and passionate about.
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They have another one reflect on your
engagement with the community to which you
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belong. How do you feel you have
contributed to this community?
[27:09] (1629.54s)
They're trying to see that community
service aspect and then literally in the
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last one, they tell you exactly
what they want, what inspires you,
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what makes your heart beat.
That's what they want to know.
[27:20] (1640.52s)
They want to know more about who you are,
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how you're going to fit on their campus.
Stanford, this is a very famous one.
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There's actually colleges that
have copied this question,
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and it is basically the roommate question,
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write a note to your future roommate
that reveals something about you or that
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will help your roommate and us know you
better. Again, it's not about academics.
[27:39] (1659.66s)
It's not about your activities
or your achievements.
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They want to know about you as a person.
[27:44] (1664.10s)
They also have another
question here that says,
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the Stanford community is deeply curious
and driven to learn in and out of the
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classroom.
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Reflect on an idea or experience that
makes you generally excited about
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learning. Again,
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it's what makes you tick and what is the
most significant challenge that society
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faces today? Again, they want to know
what you think is important here.
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Stanford wants to know who their student
is so that they can make sure the right
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students are coming.
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So here are the takeaways
from our supplemental essays.
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This is not you bragging about the school,
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but about how you and your
values fit into their campus.
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You want to be able to show
that you are the right fit,
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but I don't want students to
create a persona in order to try
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to fit into every school. Every
student is their own person,
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and if a school says, Hey,
you're not the right fit here.
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Then the student as a student, you
should be like, okay, that's all right,
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because if I went there,
I probably wouldn't be a
hundred percent happy. Anyway,
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that doesn't matter. If we're talking
about Ivy Leagues, Ivy plus top 50,
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top a hundred, top 500 schools,
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and then the final thing here is make
sure that you are not reciting like a
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brochure. There are some times where I
read student's why this school essay,
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and I'm like, wow,
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you should send that to the admissions
office because the admissions office
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would love to use that in
one of their pamphlets.
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If that's the kind of feeling that
you get after you read your essay,
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you're not going down the right
track. It should be specific to you.
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It should be specific to that college,
and it should be things that again,
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you have researched into heavily
now like we do every week.
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I want to invite those families that are
not in our coaching program yet to work
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with us. Now, how this
works is very simple.
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I'm going to share what our
coaching programs look like.
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If you do want to have a meeting with
us, I will have the link at the end,
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but very simply, our first meeting is
we're going to learn more about you,
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about your family situation,
about your student,
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to see what would work best for you,
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and then if you are interested in
talking to us again about the different
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programs,
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we'll go ahead and make sure that we set
up another appointment with you to talk
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about the different programs and
pricing in that first meeting.
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You can't even buy anything, even
if you're ripping and roaring to go,
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it's like, you guys are it. We want
you. Unfortunately, you can't sign up,
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so put those credit cards away.
So in our coaching program,
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we have college and career support.
We help with college selection,
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college exploration, major strategy.
We also help with selecting classes,
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dual enrollment recommendations,
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also outside online high
school recommendations as well.
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We help with activities. The biggest part,
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one of key components of our coaching
program is a personal project.
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Some people misunderstand
personal project.
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Our personal project is a little
bit different than everyone else's.
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Our personal project in college,
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admission Secrets and an Ivy League
admission secrets is not about just having
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another thing to add onto your resume.
It's about affecting your community,
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and we also support with internships
and research programs during the
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application process of everything.
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We help with an unlimited
amount of applications.
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Our student that applied to the most
colleges last year applied to 43 colleges.
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Who knows if that gets broken this year,
but we'll keep you updated on that.
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We help with essay revisions and edits.
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We have a 24 hour turnaround time if
you're in our coaching program and also
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not available anymore because we
ran out of space and we sold out.
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But the college app intensive is also
included as part of your program.
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We have customized roadmap
calls weekly and monthly.
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We also have daily coaching. We
have office hours all the time,
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and it's a one price deal,
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lifetime access from this time you start
all the way until you graduate from
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high school. So I'm going to go ahead
and send those links into the chat,
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but at this time,
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I would like to kind of open it up for q
and a to make sure that people are able
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to answer their questions and that I
can help you guys out that way. Okay,
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so there are two links here. The
first one is for financial aid.
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The second one is to set up an
assessment for your student,
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so q and a, if anyone has questions.
Again, there's no wrong questions.
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I know that a lot of people in here
might be a little bit shellshocked or
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there's just too much information being
thrown at you and you need a little
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minute to process. So process,
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but please ask your questions and
if you're in our Facebook group,
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reach out to us on Facebook. If
you're in our coaching program,
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reach out to us in your discord
channels or support channels,
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or if you don't really know how to use
any of those and you've got an email from
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us, email us back so we can give
you the information that you need.
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So I'm going to go ahead and
post those links one more time,
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make sure to copy and paste
them or have them available,
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but let's open it up for q and a and
make sure that we answer some questions.
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So I'll kind of wait until
the first one comes in. Okay,
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and just one more time,
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for those families that are looking
to get help for their seniors on
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college essays, you can text
SA to 4 1 5 9 3 8 8 7 2 1.
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All right.
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Okay, I'm not seeing any questions, which
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that means I did a really good job today
of answering all the questions that
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might come up, but once
again, we are here to help.
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We want to make sure that your path
to college is as easy and efficient as
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possible. So again,
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please make sure to have
those links for financial aid.
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Make sure to save some money for
the assessment with our team.
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Make sure to at least get some information
that makes you head down the right
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track.
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I feel like there's a lot of families
that come in with different pieces of
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information from this
person and that person,
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and they had a consultation with
this company and that company,
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and then everything gets molded
together and it's not anything
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usable because there's too many pieces
from too many different sources.
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getting the information from one
group that has been through this for a
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collective 35, 40 plus years,
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that's what you want on
your side. All right,
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so I don't see any additional
questions, but again,
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you're free to reach out to us at
any time. I will be closing down now.
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If you guys do have questions,
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let us know and always this
happens. But let's go ahead.
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There is a question here and it says,
for the awards and honors section,
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should I put an AP award, AP
scholar opportunity or scholarship?
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I got from my Homes Town Scholarship
Foundation to tour colleges based on my
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community service. So again,
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I'm not exactly sure which
application you're talking about,
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but the awards and honors section for
the common application is actually
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supposed to be academic awards.
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So the only one that you would be able
to put is the one for the AP award.
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If you're talking about
the uc application, then
on the uc application, yes,
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you can put both of
those awards, but again,
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you have to think about
what the process was.
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Was there a selection process or did you
just turn in an application with your
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name and where you went to school?
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So is this something that is
worthwhile putting on there or not?
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Now on the common app,
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while the awards or honors
section is just for academic
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things,
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if you did want to talk about
your scholarship because
it meant a lot to you and
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it was like a grueling process
to get through that, then sure,
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you can put it in the
additional information section,
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but it wouldn't necessarily go into
that awards and honors section.
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So hopefully that answers
real question there.
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we have another question that says how
many essays are required for the common
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app for each school? As I showed
you before, it really depends.
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It could be anything from zero to 12.
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So it really depends on which schools
you're applying to and also what major you
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are. So it really depends.
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That's why at the beginning of
our training we went through,
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here's how you find all
the ones that you need.
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Just finding all of them is a task
in itself. So you need to go in,
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you need to fill out all the information,
fill out all your common apps stuff,
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fill out the majors, fill out the,
I'm applying early or regular.
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I'm applying as an engineering student,
as this student, as that student,
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to make sure that you find all the essays
and the essays could be anywhere in
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any single tab. Okay?
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Oh, the questions are
rolling now. So it says,
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what are examples of things that can go
in the honor section of the common app?
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I have awards and honors on my resume,
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but I don't know which ones
should be on my common app.
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So technically you have five slots
in the common app to add things.
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They should be academic, right?
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So let's say you got an award in your
biology class that can go on there, right?
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Let's say you got honor roll at your
school. That can go on there right now.
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Let's say that you went to Biology
Olympiad. That can go on there,
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or you did academic decathlon. That
can go on there. MUN can go on there.
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Speech and debate can go on there. So
there's just a lot of different things.
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If you went to a hackathon that's more
academic related because it is related to
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one of the subjects that you're
studying, that can go on there.
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But other things like arts awards or
athletic awards or community service
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awards don't technically fit in that box.
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Okay? Alright. Okay.
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I thought there was going to be
a whole barrage of questions,
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but there's only a couple. But again,
thank you guys for being here with me.
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If you do have additional questions,
make sure to reach out to us and again,
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book that breakthrough session,
book that financial aid call.
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The earlier you sign up,
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the better because the more that we're
going to be able to help you with either
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of them with the financial
aid or with the college,
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kind of our college coaching program.
So everyone have a good night.
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So I'm actually going to be headed
down to UCLA this weekend to help our
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students at the college application
intensives, sorry to say,
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for families that are like, oh my god,
what's that? You snooze, you lose.
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It's a two day weekend event where we
are helping our seniors get a jumpstart
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and or even finish their applications.
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So for those that are kind of late to
the party or they heard about it a bunch
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of times and they weren't able to
sign up or they didn't sign up,
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unfortunately we're out of seats now,
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but the college essay
service is still available.
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So if you're interested in that, go
ahead and reach out about that. Okay,
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so I'll see some of the families in here.
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I do see that I'll be seeing them this
weekend. So I look forward to that.
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And for everyone else, you'll
have Coach Tony next week,
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but I will be back in two
weeks at the beginning of
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September with hopefully some new news
about some updates to the Common app
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and any changes that have
happened. Okay? Alright, everyone,
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have a good night and I will talk to
you again in a couple weeks. Bye bye.