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## What Internships Are (And What They Are Not) [01:30] All right, welcome everyone. I know you were probably expecting Coach Victor, but today I am taking over for Coach Victor. I'm going to be talking a little bit about internships, why they matter, right? how to turn them into relevant activities so that colleges are able to give you the credit where it's due. Okay, so it is May 15th. It's right at six o'clock, right? Thank you guys for spending a little bit of your evening with me. If you guys can help me out by putting your students grade into the chat, that would be wonderful, right? Um and then we will get started right away. Okay, so for tonight, right, just going over a little agenda topics here, right? We're going to talk about what an actual internship is because I think a lot of people have a mis uh have a little bit of misinformation as to what constitutes an internship. We're going to talk about where to find them, right? The different opportunities that you have. We're going to we're going to talk about maximizing your your experience and then how to turn that into kind of like, you know, kind of gold for colleges and later career experience. Okay. Uh a little bit about the housekeeping, right? We are going to be having this uh you know, replay available later, right? our coaching families. It'll be on our private YouTube channel for our Facebook uh for our Facebook families. Uh we'll go ahead and make a post in our different groups and you can go ahead and ask for the replay there. Our team will reach out to you to get you that replay. Okay? It should take a day or two, right, as it renders and kind of we kind of make it look pretty, but we will try to get to you as soon as possible. Now, for those of you that have been coming to Coach Victor's uh kind of trainings, right, and you haven't seen me before, my name is Coach David. Uh I am a former college and law school admission reader, right? And I for the past 16 years I've been working with families to get them to their dream colleges. I've also been helping them get financial aid and save them tens of thousands of dollars on college expenses each year. Okay. So with that, let us kind of go into one other piece I want to talk about before I start the training. Right now this is especially important for our juniors. Right. The question is has your students started thinking about applications? For a lot of families, the answer is no. Right? But for our students, the answer is yes. A lot of our students, right? And again, we're working through it kind of like uh piece by piece because we have different weekends that we're doing this. But we do have a program to help that I wanted to tell you about. Okay? It is our college application intensive, right? It is a threeday event, right? There's one weekend in April, May, and June. There is a two-day weekend in July, August, and September where we help students get through their essays, okay? Their PIQ's, their personal statements, even some of their early action or early decision drafts, we will be helping them, okay? If you are interested in that uh in our college application intensive, please you can visit our website at collegeappensive.com. I will also have links later uh phone numbers you can text so that you can get more information about those programs. Okay, so that is one side. Getting into college, right? We help with that. We also help you get money for college. Okay, financial aid secrets. We've been around, right? Um, again, I've been helping families save money for 16 years. I will also have a QR code link later on that you can use to sign up for a consultation to talk me talk to me about that as well. Okay, but now let's get into the training. Right, the first question that we need to answer is what are internships? Okay. Now, internships, ## Shadowing vs. Interning... What Colleges Really Value [05:00] right? A lot of times people think anytime that a student goes into a workplace that is an internship. That is not so, right? There's different levels to internships, right? And that or like there's different levels to what can happen inside the workplace. The most common, right, is shadowing, right? And I kind of put here that it has less value, right? It gives the student insight into kind of like that field or that career, but it doesn't really do anything to show colleges anything, right? So, I know that there's a lot of students and like, "Oh, yeah. I'm going to shadow uh my pediatrician for 4 weeks." And I'm like, "What's going to change in four weeks?" They do the same thing every single day, right? Again, there might be special circumstances. They might get a very interesting case, but at the end of the day, it's the same thing over and over, right? and just watching that doesn't really do anything for the student. The less common thing that happens is an actual internship, right? This holds more value and I'll talk I'll kind of go through the steps of why it holds more value as we kind of go through this training. Okay? When I think about an internship, an internship is a a situation where you work for an organization, company, individual even, right? where you actually provide your skill set and value to the work that is happening, right? It's not necessarily about learning, right? Because if you're going to learn, well, you should be in a classroom, right? While I'm sure you learn a lot about the field and the different things, right? And about how things are done in the real world, right? It's not about necessarily about learning the skill set, right? It's about adding value to what your peers are doing. When you're in an internship, you should think of yourself as an employee, right? Again, for the purposes of like tax law, it's a little bit different, right? Um, you know, whether you're an employee or an intern or all these different pieces, but for the purposes of your mindset, you should be thinking that everyone working around you or on your team or this or that is a peer that you need to collaborate with. Okay? Now, I put examples up here because I want parents and students to understand what is considered an internship and what is not. Right? These are examples of things that are called internships but are not actually internships. They just put that name on it, that label on it to make it sound better than it is. Right? So the first one is one I already explained, but following a doctor around the office and being a fly on the wall. Okay? It does not that is not an internship, right? Looking over a software engineer's shoulder as they work on their project. ## Examples of “Fake” Internships That Don’t Help Your Application [07:30] Again, not an internship. You are not applying your skill set, right? learning about finance by sitting in on meetings that people are having about a merger. Again, will you learn a lot? Yeah, you'll learn a lot. But you are not applying any skill. It is just observational. Okay, that is not an internship. That is shadowing. Okay, here are some examples of things, right? Oh, sorry before I get there, right? Again, they are great experiences. They are not internships, right? Internships are about getting your hands dirty, right? So if you're helping work on a piece of code, if you're creating a slide deck to help your sales team launch an IPO, right? If you are working with a medical team to ensure that lab work gets processed and sent out in the correct manner, that is what an internship is. Okay? It's not about being observational. It's about putting in the work, getting your hands dirty. Okay? So keep that in mind there. Okay? Now, a lot of families ask us, "Hey, where do we find these things?" Right? And so I'm going to kind of give you the lowdown on where to find things, right? Traditionally, there are different kind of places where people can find internships. One of those places is on LinkedIn, right? I think it's a great tool for students to use, right? There's different job postings and they actually have a section that is kind of for internships, right? But there might be restrictions there. There might be age restrictions or skill level restrictions or other restrictions like you have to be in the office 5 days a week, right? But again, maybe the student doesn't drive yet, right? So there's other restrictions there, but there's other ways to find digital internships or other internships, right? So one one of those ways is finding your own, right? And this is something that I always tell students about because it also gives them a little bit of insight into what skill set that they have and that they don't have, right? The first thing is find companies that are hiring, right? Just for like entrylevel positions in the fields that you want and reach out whether it's a cold call or an email, right? Again, this is a little bit different than an actual job or or actual posting about an internship because you're reaching out to companies that aren't looking for interns, right? Maybe they're looking for entry- level position in sales, coding, lab work, whatever it is, right? But it's an entry-level position, which is the easiest floor to get in on, right? What I want students to do then is see if you have the skills and qualifications that they're looking for in that position. Okay? So, if they're looking for someone and the qualifications are, yeah, we need you to be a quick thinker and we need you to be proficient in uh PowerPoint and we need you to be ## What a Real Internship Looks Like (With Skill Contribution) [10:00] proficient in this and that. Well, then a lot of students might have that skill set. But if they say that uh you need to be, you know, well-versed in cardiovascular surgery, most students are not going to have that. So, unfortunately, that's not really going to work out, right? The skill and qualifications don't match, right? So, you want to make sure that you do have the skills and qualifications that they're looking for. And then you reach out to them to see if they need any free work. Okay? There's a lot of companies out there, smaller companies that are like, you know what, we just need people to be working on things, right? We need we need to get to the next step of this, but we don't have enough manpower or woman power to get there, right? So, that is one way that my students have have found internships that way. Okay? Now the takeaways here as far as the internships are this right you need to make sure that you fully understand your situation here the worst thing that you can do is overestimate what you can do you have to be very critical about what your skill set is right so that's why I say make sure to be honest with yourself and with your possible organization about the things that you can and cannot do because if they brought you as an on as an intern and they expected you to know C++ and you said you knew C++ and they now know that you don't know C++ plus+ now we have an issue right uh again it's about providing value so be very clear about what you can provide right and make sure you are actively involved not just a fly on the wall right this is very similar to what I tell students about the activities that they're a part of right if if you are kind of like just being there if you're just a member and the club that you are a part of at school is just existing it's probably not worthwhile and it's not worth your time right same thing for internships, right? Or things that they call internships where they literally just have you observe, right? It's not worth your time, right? Maybe a day or two, but if it's like two, three weeks, what are you doing for the rest of those days? You're just again being a fly on the wall. Okay? Now, there's other ways ## Where to Find Internships... From LinkedIn to Cold Outreach [12:00] to find internships as well, right? One of them is in our program, right? We have Eagle Lock internships, right? It's eight weeks, one company, right? The internship of a lifetime during the summer time. Okay? you're actually going to be working on real world projects that affect these companies, right? Uh and you're going to kind of, you know, have get gain that work experience. You're also maybe you can talk to your supervisor about getting a letter of recommendation. Okay? So, if you guys are interested in that program, you can definitely reach out to our team. I'll have that QR code. I will have that that kind of uh phone number that you can text later on so you can get more information about this. Okay. Um the summer is rapidly approaching. If this is something that interests you and your student, this is something we should move on pretty quickly. Okay. Now, one of the big pieces is a lot of people kind of run into internships, they run into research not knowing why these things matter to colleges, right? So, I wanted to give you guys a little bit of insight into why these things do matter. Okay? So, I think the first thing is hard skills, right? It shows them that you have what it takes, right? Colleges see true internships and I call them true internships because there's just so many things that are called internships that are not right but they see true internships as experiences as a way for students to show the skills that they have right so if you're working for a company and you were uh you know tasked with you doing a certain thing and you had to use certain skills then it is a physical manifestation of the skill set that you have right in addition if a company gives you the responsibility and trusted in your abilities then colleges are also able to say, "Okay, well, they have what it takes to make it here. I'm sure they got what they what it, you know, I'm sure they have what it takes to make it at our college, right? And also, whatever field it is, they know that you've actually been in the field and are still pushing for that particular major." Okay? So, if a student says, "I want to study, I don't know, archaeology," right? And they don't really have any experience to back it up, right? versus a student that wants to study archaeology. And this student had an internship at, I don't know, the National History Museum, uh, helping the team work on extracting fossils from limestone, right? Again, I'm making these things up, right? But if if we had those two students, right, same grades, same test scores, same activities, but that was the one thing that was different, then this student seems like a lot more compelling now. Okay? And then finally, it provides clear insight into your ability to succeed in the future and work for an organization in the future and be someone that can create change, right, in whatever field that you go into. Okay, so those are some of the hard skills that colleges are able to kind of glean from your internship experience. Okay. Now, there's other soft skills that the colleges are also able to deduce from your internship, right? They're going to ## Matching Your Skills to Entry-Level Needs [15:00] be able to see you collaborate, work independently, manage schedules and timelines, right? They're also going to be able to see how you navigate the waters of being part of kind of an organization or a company, right? Again, there's a lot of hardships there, right? Any of our parents in the audience, right? Uh you're probably smirking to yourself because it's like, yeah, like I go through all this stuff at work. My kid doesn't even know about those types of things. This would be a great wakeup call for them, right? For a lot of students, it is, right? because at home they kind of do what they want and they're kind of, you know, they kind of dictate some things, but in the workplace that's not how it works, right? They're also going to be able to see that you've been able to comm communicate, build relationships, and adapt to new situations, which are all great experiences that colleges want you to have so that again, you can adapt to their new environment, right? And hopefully, right, leadership, emotional intelligence will be on display as well. But some of those are some of the soft skills that we would want students to be able to portray and get uh recognition from the colleges for. Okay. Now, takeaways here, right? And I just realized that I kind of sped through this because uh I'm used to speeding through my my kind of uh my trainings, but again, if you guys do have questions about any of these pieces, please go ahead and put them in the Q&A or in the chat. Okay, but quick things here, right? When students have internships or different experiences, they feel like they can understand more about this student, right? Because again, whether it's in the in the activity section or whether it is in the kind of, you know, in the different writing prompts that they have for the student, they're able to get more out of it because the student has more things to write about. Right? Another another kind of thing is having an internship provides an avenue to show colleges you are prepared for the academic and professional world ahead. Right? One of the things that I always tell students about colleges is that it's not always just about the learning, right? Colleges are businesses, right? At the end of the day, they want students that will come, learn, go out into the world and create ## How to Be Honest About What You Can Actually Offer [17:00] a difference, right? And hopefully a large donation, right? So, they want to see students that have the kind of different qualities that will be needed to make it in the professional world, right? In addition, right? If you can get your mentor to write an additional letter of recommendation, right, it will show a different side of you in the professional world versus an academic setting at your school. Right? Now, let's let's be totally honest. At school, you're just still a kid, right? But at your internship, well, you're the team member that finished the project on time by staying up till 2 in the morning. Okay? So, keep those things in mind there. Right? Now all of these things combined are the reasons why we do suggest that students try to have an internship. But is an internship for everybody? No, it's not. Right? Um it all depends on kind of what your interest areas are and the possibilities that a high school student or the kind of opportunities that a high school student can actually take part in. Right? Again, one of the examples I gave before was that yeah, your student wants to be a surgeon. Unfortunately, there is no intern internship opportunity that will get them into a surgery room. Okay? So, again, it depends on the situation, but if a student is interested in going to medical school later, but they're going to be studying, I don't know, biology or chemistry, there's a lot of students that have internships or or different positions available at cancer institutes, right? Or at different labs, you know, you know, you know, taking care of data and these sorts of things, right? while you're not necessarily working with the cells, while you're not running the experiments, even running that data is a very very meaningful experience for that student. Okay? So again, depending on where you're going, where you're headed, right, what the interests are, there are different opportunities that we can take. So really quickly, I know I brag about our students all the time, but it's because our students are wonderful and they're great and they've done really well. They've worked really hard, right? And our students, they've gone to students across the country, right? They've gone to schools such as MIT, ## Internship Experience vs. Club Involvement [19:00] Boston, Penn, Cornell, USC, NYU, right? UC's across the board, right? Too many to count at UC Berkeley and UCLA, right? Also, the second most popular UC of of them all, UC Irvine, right? It's the second most popular, right? Students at in at Caltech and Michigan, Harvey, MUD, Brown, right? Across the board, we've had students that have done great. Okay. But I always tell families, you can't really get our help if you don't reach out, right? So, if you are interested in talking to us either about financial aid or about any of our college programs that I talked about, whether it is our coaching program, our college intensive, our college application intensive or our um or our kind of like research or internship programs, please go ahead and text college to 949-7750865. If you're interested in the financial aid program, which most families should be because who doesn't like saving money on college, you should go ahead and text money to 949775865. There's also QR codes here as well. Okay, so I'm sorry I rushed through, right? Uh but I got a little bit into a groove and I couldn't really stop, right? But I do want to also open it up for Q&A, right? So if you guys do have questions about anything that we talked about today, right? or you have questions about any of our programs, please go ahead and put them in the Q&A in the chat. We'll kind of open it up so that people can ask questions. Okay? So, I'll give people a little time to write those questions out and then we'll go ahead and answer those and then end off our training for today. All right, I have a question in the Q Q&A here and it says, "Do I need to sign up for all the programs or can I just select what I sign up for?" Uh so the financial aid program is a separate program. The coaching program is a separate program, right? The research ## Internships Through Egelloc... 8 Weeks, One Real Project [21:00] program is a separate program and the internship program is a separate program. So you can pick and choose what you want and what works for your family. So you don't need to sign up for everything, right? Um obviously if you do, wonderful, right? But if you don't and you only want a specific kind of set of things that you want to work on, then that works out too. Okay? Uh but the one thing I will say is that our research and our internship programs are exclusively for our coaching families right now. Uh we are hoping to open it up to other families later. Uh but we're still working on the logistics of all of that. Okay. All right. Thank you for that question. All right. So, I don't see any other questions coming in. Again, thank you guys for spending a little bit of time with me. I know you're expecting Coach Victor, right? Um, but uh I'm glad that we got to meet. If you guys do have any other questions, please reach out to us in any way, shape, or form. If you're in our coaching program, reach out on Discord. If you're on Facebook, reach out via messenger or text us or sign up for a consultation with either of these QR links. Okay? So, I will go ahead and kind of leave this up for you guys. But if you guys do have any other questions, please let me know. Right. Uh oh, before we go, right, there's a question here. It says, "If I work for my family's company, would it count as an internship?" So, yes, it does. But I don't want you to just go there and then order lunch for everyone every day, right? You need to be doing something meaningful, hands-on. If your if your family runs a, I don't know, candy company, then I want you to be at the loading dock counting, you know, how many boxes of things came in. I also want you to be, you know, uh, you know, going around to, you know, do different audits or this or that, so on and so forth. There needs to be meaning and there needs to be kind of more available, right? It's not just about ## Why Colleges Value Hard Skills (And How to Prove Them) [23:00] being present or observing. It's about actually getting your hands dirty. It's about actually doing the work that is necessary. Okay, so I think that's a great question to end off on. I'll go ahead and leave this uh leave this slide up for you guys to kind of you know QR code it or you know get the phone number and then if you guys have any other questions reach out to us in the various different methods that I talked about before. Okay, so everyone have a great night. Right. Uh one day left until the weekend. Uh so please enjoy. I know the weather is getting warmer too. Uh stay cool and we will talk to you again next week. All right everyone have a great night. Bye-bye.