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## Intro and What to Expect in This Training [00:00] What's up everyone? Coach Tony here. In this training, we're going to talk about the exact classes your child should be taking this summer when it comes to dual enrollment. If it's a very first time meeting, my name is Coach Toy. I'm actually a former UC Berkeley admissions reader. I was a former UCLA outreach director. I founded my own high school and I've been helping families with the college admissions process along our team for the last 16 years. So here here uh our goal is to teach you exactly what we teach our coaching students uh so you guys can navigate the college admissions journey. What why what we do a little differently is we approach it from a different point of view. A lot of families want to how do I help my child stand out in the admissions process and realistically in today's world it's really really hard to stand out in today's world. So instead, why our students have been so successful in this process is we don't just help our students stand out in admissions. We help them give the readers what they're looking for. When I was a reader at Berkeley, I read over 20,000 applications. You start to see trends, right? Why yes kids get yeses, why no kids get nos, and you start to understand what the yes kids have in common, what the no kids have in common. So the strategy is give the readers what they're looking for, and that helps ensure your chances a lot higher. So, in today's session, that's what we're going to be focusing on and talking about is specifically what things does matter in the the admissions process. Let me go ahead and share my screen really quick. I am going live on Zoom. If you're live, ## What Is Dual Enrollment and Why It Matters [01:30] if you guys can see me, hear me in Zoom and make sure my screen is recorded correctly. Can you go ahead and drop a yes in the chat if um you guys can see and hear me? I'm on a different setup today. So, I don't have my multiple monitors. I can't see it there, but uh people can see the screen. Looks like the answer is yes. Uh, fantastic. Fantastic. Awesome. Cool. So, I'm going to go through this little training, teach you guys about this, and if you have questions, feel free to drop it in the Q&A box. I'll make some time for Q&A at the very end as well, too. Okay, so let's go diving straight in. So, first off, the question is, what dual enrollment classes should we be taking this upcoming summer? And the first off, let's talk about uh first off, what is dual enrollment, right? What is dual enrollment? Some people like, hey, what's that? Dual enrolling courses is taking college level courses, college level courses as a high school student, right? Uh so that's the basically the definition of dual enrollment. Could you you can take a community college qual technically you take the four-year college course as well too. Uh they're all the same and you take them or not same but you could take both of them. They're all called dual enrollment. For the purpose of today's session, we're going to focus on the community college. The reason why is that either one you do four-year community college they do the same effect for a high school student. So community college is way cheaper than the 4-year option if you're considering that option over there. Okay. So let's talk about dual enrollment uh first. So this kind of falls first off is let's do why right why why do enrollment uh in the first place right so when it comes to dual enrollment level courses when colleges are looking at are looking at a student at a student's academics right academics um can let's do a quick little interactive since we have some folks here as well too uh in the chat let me know what are colleges looking for when it comes to your academics ICS. Go ahead and drop it in the chat. Okay, quick little water break. But those who are here live with me, go ahead in the chat. Uh, what are admissions looking for when it comes to a student's academics? Um, Kier, you have a lot of coaching students here. They they they already know the answer. They already know the answer as well too. There you go. So, someone mentioned GPA, right? Someone mentioned GPA as well too, right? our our our coaching students know they know the real answer as well. They know that it is not GPA. So, let me go ahead and disprove that really quick for you. For those who did the the two friends that ## GPA vs. Rigor... What Readers Really Look For [04:00] wrote GPA in the chat, right? So, when it comes to the GPA itself, um GPA is not that important to look at, right? The reason why is how many students with a 4.8 do you see who still get rejected? So many, right? So if if GPA was the answer, then you you your goal is to maximize for GPA. But I'm sure you guys have heard stories know people who have done this and still right not get into uh their top choice colleges either. So it's probably not about GPA. It can help you kind determine but not uh not tell you itself. So instead what we look at we look at two things right we look at two things. uh we look at one is grade trends is number two is academic rigor our coaching s shout to you guys for for for getting that um in in the chat as well too right so great trends academic rigor so when it comes to grade trends I want to see strong grades right mean as many A's you can if you end up getting one or two B's I'm not going to freak out mom will freak out dad will freak out I'm fine I'm I'm chilling right so that's that uh but the other piece the most important thing is the rigor of your this is the most important part. The reason why that's most important, colleges want to know, right? Colleges want to know uh want to know that once you get there, you'll be fine, right? You'll be fine. Not every student is going to graduate in four years. Some students get kicked out, some students get dropped out. So, if I say yes to you, I definitely want you to uh graduate, right? Because again, if you uh get kicked out, right, you'll be sad, parents will be sad, college will be sad, too. You're not paying tuition money, right? So, it's a lose-lose for that situation there. They want to know are you going to be okay? So, the big thing a lot of people like are aim for all these top schools, Stanford, USC, UCLA, UC Berkeley, but they don't really realize how hard it is uh to get in and once you're in, how hard it is to stay in and graduate as well too. So, from a reader's point of view, I'm basically trained to look for is this student going to be okay if they get to our school? So I look at the rigor because again um to see where someone will go, right? See where they've been, right? It's probably a quote somewhere uh as well too because again it's not accidental, right? You don't just like, oh, I'm a C student. I'm going to magically become a straight A student or a straight A student magically become a C. No, you're pretty much the same person you are throughout your entire life. So going back to here, right? If I look at how you were in high school, I have a good indicator of how you are in college. I mean, of course, we're human. We can change. We can evolve, but for the most part, you're pretty much very similar to who you are. So, going back here, I want to look at your high school rigor and see what did you maximize it in? Because if you did, that's awesome, right? Then I know you'll be fine. So, the the most most common way to do this uh is going to be AP level courses and IB level courses, ## AP vs. Dual Enrollment... The Cost and Credit Breakdown [07:00] right? because AP and IB advanced placement international uh baloric programs these are the rigorous courses these are big because they're standardized across a bunch of states of schools a lot of countries that these are rigorous level courses however what's the issue right what's what's the issue of like AP level courses as well too number one they're hard right it's super super hard classes that students probably spend a lot of time it's time consuming takes a bunch of different time from the student here as well. You need to take a test, need to pass a test to get college credit, right? And again, keep in mind, you have to get certain score also. A lot of our students, if you're watching this live, we just finished up AP exam season, right? So, our students who took the AP exams, you needed three is passing, but sometimes you need a four or a five to actually get college credit uh for the class as well, too. That's kind of why we're doing the APs also is to get college credit once you guys get to the four-year schools. So that's one option, right? But let me kind of argue the other option. So what about dual enrollment? So with dual enrollment courses, these are college level courses. Again, you can think about the local community college um as well too. First benefit, these are one semester long. One semester is half a year. So these are half a year long courses. But when you do the conversion rate, right, one college unit is approximately 3.3 high school credits. The average college course is three units. When you multiply it out, 3.3 times times uh three is 9.9, roughly 10 high school credits, which is equal to one year. So you take a class for one semester, but it will count as a full year-long course for you. Right? That's perk number one. Perk number two, this is a college class, right? Which means as long as you take a transferable course, right? It will transfer to the four-year schools that you're doing. The reason why is that when you go to the four-year school, you're taking like four years worth of college classes. You're that's what you're doing here. You're getting the college credit, you're transferring it over uh as well without without taking uh a test. Right? So for those of you who hate tests, right? Test test test anxiety. Another awesome reason as well too. Another big thing why dual enrollment is really awesome is a lot of classes are also online and asynchronous. What that means is that you can take a lot of these classes online and it's self-paced, right? Self-paced. So it's at your own speed as well too. Let's say you know you're going on vacation the last week of school. So let's speed up the work so you b you can fish everything before your family goes off on that trip or your family trip is right in middle. you can go and speed up your work and catch up once you get back uh as well too. Either way, right, you're able to do that or you when you go to a different country or different area, you can still ## Benefits of Online and Asynchronous College Classes [10:00] take the class online because it's online. Uh and pretty much everywhere now has a lot of Wi-Fi, right? Unless you go to the woods or something, maybe not. But if you go to a different area, there's probably Wi-Fi somewhere that you can do your class as well, too. That's another perk there. And probably the best perk of all, you get to pick your teachers, right? So, a lot of lot lot of lot of uh a lot of classes I always ask like, "Hey, what's your hardest class?" It's always like an AP class, right? Is the hardest class or an IB level course. And I'm like, "Okay, is the is it hard cuz the class is hard or is it hard cuz the teacher is hard?" I think everyone will agree like it's probably hard cuz the teacher is hard. The class is okay, but it's the teacher that makes it really tough. And that's the same thing by the way throughout the rest of your life, right? Depending on your professor, your boss, your manager in the future, they dictate kind of the structure that you will kind of grow here. So when it comes to this part right here, right in high school, you don't have a choice. If you're taking AP US history, there's usually one AP US history teacher. You're taking calc 2, calc AB, calc BC, there's only one teacher, one or two teachers who teach that class only and that you kind of stuck with them. But in college, you get to pick your or you there's one class has like around three to five teach professors uh to choose from, right? So, you have to pick and choose who you get to take it with. And spoilers, right? Spoilers, right? You want to you want to find you want to find the easiest professor, right? So, why do you want to do a quick little quick little macro macro strategy really quick, right? is that when it comes to the whole process of state the academics, the activities and the application itself, I would argue that the academics is the least important factor of the three areas. So when when when students might might be you are spending so much time on school, you're spending I come home, I'm up to two in the morning doing homework. By the way, if you are doing that, I'm I bet you not doing homework. I bet you you are watching YouTube, Netflix, and all that stuff too. But right um the academics should be the least important factor because um the other two areas the activities and the applications are more weighted to your profile itself there. So again for me I always think how do I increase my academics while reducing the time that's going to be the key for us over here. Okay. So that that's the big one first step over here. Now that being said let's go to the actual thing. Now now that we understand why we want why what is dual enrollment? Why do you want to do dual enrollment? Let's talk about uh how, right? How how dual enrollment this summer, right? So, really quick in the chat, um can we drop what state you're in? Cuz this this does this does change a little bit as well, too. Uh what state are you guys located in? Um all right, guys. Got a mix of a few. Got mix up a few but overwhelming California. ## The Three Pathways: Engineering... Business and Pre-Med... Humanities [13:00] Overwhelming California. So keep in mind for all the other states uh you guys can do exactly everything I'm going to tell you. Just Google the word your state and what I'm going to tell you and you can find the same thing. If you have trouble, reach out to our team. Our team can can help you with that as well too. But for this for this example, I'm going to pick um example. We're from California. And then uh another example, can someone name me uh if you're in California? a community college next to you guys. We'll give you guys step by step how what to do, what to do and what to look at uh as well. And as you guys are doing that, I'm going to give you guys the answer first. Okay. So, so when it comes to um so college TBA, right? But so what's the answer? Which dual enrollment classes do we take? So for me, dual enrollment has two purposes, right? Dual enrollment has two purposes. One is to increase rigor. Increase rigor. Right? Going back to what we're looking for, that's one of the big thing we want to do. We want to increase number rigor. Number two, right, is the over the major overlay for the classes. Meaning, what what major are you guys thinking about going into? You want to make sure you have that uh overlays are things that a reader is trained to look for based on your major itself. So, things you want to consider as well too. So, let's talk about let's talk about major overlays really quick and we'll go back to increasing rigor. Okay. So, when it comes to major overlays, I would argue there's also three big pathways out there, uh, I use the word pathways because again, you say you're this major, who knows what major you're going to be. You might switch it up over the next few years anyway. So, what pathways are you going down because you're probably going to stay within your pathway. The first pathway I always call pathway number one uh is our engineering uh engineering uh and computer science students. So, if you are uh if you're here live and you are pathway number one, drop a number one in the chat for me guys, drop a number one. If your child's considering any of the fields of engineering, any of the fields of computer science, data science, all that stuff, drop a number one in the chat if that sounds like your child, right? Pathway number two uh is if you are considering STEM or it's called sciences STEM will come to number one sciences biologies chemistry physics anatomy premed or business right uh they are different disciplines but in terms of prepping for them they're the same right in terms of prepping academically they're the same so if your child is a sciences or a business drop number two uh in the chat there and number three pathway number three is the humanities uh and everything else, right? So, if you're interested in in history, polyai, sociology, all these different fields, you are a number three. Ah, we have a nice little mix of everyone here today. Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, so each of these there will be certain things that you can do to help showcase this in your application itself, right? Specifically, mainly for number one, right? So, one and two is the big ones, right? So, the big thing, oops, the big thing, the big thing you can use for the major overlay ## Why Math Is the #1 Leverage Course in Dual Enrollment [16:00] when it comes to community college is going to be your math. That's be the the biggest thing you can do to help increase it. Because again, if you think about high school, right, high school math, high school math typically goes right, algebra 1, uh, geometry, algebra 2, trigonometry, pre-calcul or some people put these together, right? trig pre-calcu or algebra 2 pre whatever these combinations and you take AP calc AB AP cal BC and some people take stats calc BC it's AP stats right that's that's that's typical um if your school's a little special or not special but they did they also call like uh integrated math one oops integrated math um integrated math one uh integrated math 2 integrated math pre uh it's just similar again basically integrates just those all three at once and merges it as well too right and you go to pre-cal so this is pretty much a typical high school math as well too however when when you're interested in pathway number one right we tell our students to go as far as you can in math meaning calc right you want to go even further so if you're interested in engineering right computer science we have our students finish BC and continue to calculus 3 or they call it multivariable calculus, right? Then you want to go ahead and go to linear algebra. Then you want to go to differential equations. Then you want to go to screen math and whatever else that's usually the maximal schools, but that's kind of the level you want to do after BC as well too. If you notice most schools don't offer, some schools do. Some of them are very very competitive schools starting to offer this now. But most schools don't have this at the high school. So if they don't have the high school, where do you take them? You go to the college. You take to do this at the dual enrollment community college level is kind of the big thing here, right? And if you go if you're doing uh sciences or business, right? Cal 2 BC is good. But again, the other the other logic why you want to go community college also is the other math, right? Say instead of like uh sciences and business, right? Instead of doing uh a year because this is what this is one year, right? This is one year. Instead of doing one year, one year, you can take calc one, one semester. Cal 2, one semester. So in one year at the college, you can do the same thing as two years at the high school. You guys see that? That's the trick you can leverage with dual enrollment. Here with the majors, you can do more things done uh before. So that's why we always tell students, use it as a way to kind of accelerate your your your math as well, too. That's probably the big one to keep in mind, right? Going back for rigor now. So when it comes to rigor, right, when it comes to rigor, what we want to do is take class. Our strategy is take classes, take college level courses because college level courses are rigorous, right? Are rigorous as well too. I'm going I'm take a little note real fast. I think someone uh someone made a comment in the chat. I saw like what about honors classes as well too. Let's talk about that real fast. Right? When it comes to honors, example, example number two, uh, honors, right? The reason why I don't bring up honors is that some when you look it up, right? When you look up honors courses, some schools recognize honors, some schools don't, and some at your school, some classes might be recognized, some are not. So, for me, and if you don't believe me, check it out. Uh, there's a website called, especially in UC's UCP articulation. uh type in your high school, type in the college, you'll see there's like half of your honor classes, your school doesn't count for anything. Doesn't count as honors, right? Count for your high school. Your high school will count it uh for their GPA, but the universities will not count it as honors courses. If you guys are applying out of state, if you're in California, apply New York. If you're in New York, try to apply for California. Honors doesn't transfer, right? Only AP and IB and college level. Now, for me, I like to play it safe. I only consider things that I know will transfer. And for the ones that do transfer, you're you're setting the bar like low high. You're setting the bar there that you're always going to beat it if that makes sense, right? So that's kind of why I don't think about honors even though it does count. Don't say it doesn't count. It counts, but not everyone does count. And are you going to go through the the the headache of going through each school, each class to make sure it counts now? No. Just focus on AP, IB, and college level courses. And once you're hit, you hit the strategy there, you're good. And any extra honors is just bonus points, brownie points for you there. Okay. So now going back right so uh rigor I want take because any college level course is rigorous I don't need to do anything else any college is rigorous so what I want to do I want to work smart with my classes right so let's say going back here right let's say I was a business major right would I take a business class right away probably not right you're like why why I'm interested in ## General Ed Courses That Transfer to Every Major [21:00] business I'm like cool how long have you had this this interest in business because you probably I bet you you probably whatever major your child's thinking of they probably just thought of it like last one two three years as well too you're in a career for like 40 years right uh so are you committed that that's what you want to do and realistically no realistically major is a concept you learn at the college not the high school your high school doesn't expose you enough to like make a yes I'm going to go and do this option as well so how we are able to navigate this is I tell students cool take only take classes, right, that are that are for sure transferable, right? Cuz then let's say I I'm a business major and I don't take I take the transferable courses, but I switch I switch to sciences, I'm good. But what if I take business classes and I switch and all my classes are useless now because it doesn't count anywhere. So for me, I tell students, you want to take classes that are transfer for sure transferable. What classes are right? So let's look at college, right? is four year year 1 year two year three year four right what happens in the chat what happens year one does everyone know what happens year one of college what classes are you taking no matter where you go right school private school IV school what you do you're taking uh general education what about year two what are we doing year two everyone uh year two we are doing general education what are we doing year three Everyone, that's right, majors. And number three, majors. You also do prerex here, too, by the way. So, to be super super super clear, plus pre-erequisites. Requisites or like your pre-major classes is what the prerequisites are, right? But you're doing Gary education. That mean that means when you're a first or second year, you're going to take your math again, your English again, your history again, your science again. you're doing all the classes you took in high school. Again, that's kind of what AP AP exams are, IB exams are, is that it tests you out of these classes. But if you don't pass them or you didn't take them, you have to redo these your first two years. So, for me, to play it very safe, what if I only focus on these classes, right? If I only focus on these classes, no matter what school, what major I end up doing, I'm going to be fine. Again, I'm already going to show my overlay for the major classes, right? But that's it for me. If I want to be play it smart and that's kind of our strategy. We like to work smart. Don't do anything that doesn't serve you or doesn't help you, right? Focus on the things. So, general education courses here. So, now now that that said, let's go ahead and talk about how to, right? How to, right? Going back, right? You guys gave me a list of law schools. Let me pick a random one out of here. Um, Dansza. I saw Dansza. Dansza. Right. So, D. Again, you you can follow along and do your own school as well too. But the example uh the example we're going to play with today is Deansza Community College. That's that's be San Jose, San Jose area. Uh as well too. Uh and so what you guys want to do, by the way, if you guys are uh not in California, what you want to look up not in California, you want to look up the transfer articulation requirements, right? Requirements at your state. So type in state So states boom and you you you you'll find it right. But for California families your your articulation is called I gety. I gety is the intersegmental general education transfer education transfer curriculum. Just a heads up as well too FYI they're changing this to cow getsy in the fall. Right? So if you see different names, same same logic, just different names. ## Live Demo: How to Look Up IGETC or CalGETC Requirements [25:00] Uh Calgetti is merging all the schools together in one one big list cuz I get there's a I get level one, I get level B or gety A, B, and C for different types of schools uh as well. But Cow gets is a universal one for all schools is is the thing there. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to look this up. So I'm I'll do it live together with you guys, right? So I'm going to Google up Denza I gety. So Denza I gety, right? So once you search it up, can I'm I'm on a different screen. Can you guys still see the screen drop real quick? Yes, in the chat if we can see the new screen that I'm on. [Music] Um, yes. Awesome. Fantastic. Okay. So, you got to get right. So, let's use the first second one. So, I'm going to try the first one now. Looks good to me. Right. This is like this is like the older year. You can probably find a newer year, but it doesn't change too often. So, don't worry too much about that. Right. Um, so on once you look up the I get, right? So college I get to then there will be six to seven areas. That'll be a PDF or a web page with six to seven 6 to7 areas ah areas on it. Again if you're from different states they they don't have six to seven. Some like we have a student from Illinois. They they call they call the IAS for their school. I think there's like four or something four or five for their school. Um every school has something the the the Massachusetts has called mass transfer. They have a few. So every every state has a little different on this. Uh if you're in California though, there's six, seven areas, right? So, so what you want to do is what I recommend is regardless of your major, regardless of your major, right? Start do enrollment in areas three or four and or four. Four, right? So, area three is going to be your arts and humanities. Your area four is going to be your social behavioral sciences. Behavioral behavioral sciences, right? can't spell right behavioral sciences. So what we're gonna do here is if I look down I see area one, area two, area three. Bunch of courses right here. Bunch of courses here and go on the area four. Bunch of courses as well to here as well. Right. Um by the way you see here it says quarter unit. So the end is a little special. They don't follow the semester system. They follow the quarter system. So quarter system is only 10 weeks per class. Semester is 16 weeks. So it's fast. You just three quarters. It's weird. It's three quarters in a school year is the thing because like summer is number four. That's why. Right? So that's the piece here. So starting with area three, air four. The reason why these are easier, right? Three and four are easier than the other areas. And the other areas. Again, I like to work smart. I want to make sure our students do well. I don't want our students to stress out. May maybe you want your child to stress out. Not me. I don't want the student stress. I want them to have an easy time because again, there's other areas. Spoilers, the activities, spoilers, the application that are way more important to spend their energy on. this you just want to get out out of the way because the key. Okay, so it's that really quick in the chat. Um, let's do some live live in area three. Area four. Uh, you guys want to do example three or ## Psychology and Sociology as Smart Starter Classes [28:00] four? Drop a drop a three or a four in the chat. Three or four in the chat. Oh, it's tied. It's tied. Who's the Who's a tiebreaker? Tiebreaker. Oh, no. It's tied again. It's tied again. Let's go. Let's go. Uh, I need four. Four wins. Four wins. All right. So in area four, let's do a live example as well too. You can see there's a bunch of different classes, right? So each of these are classes. Uh a I'm not sure what these are. This is administrative justice maybe. Um I don't know. I know an this is anthropology. This is arts, Asian-American studies, um don't know this is jo studies, communications, econ, geography, history, uh kinesiology, journalism, polyai, uh sociology. Is there a class that you guys want to explore together real fast? Right. So, we are pretending we are the student right now. We are pretending to go through an exercise. Is there a subject that you guys want to like, oh, I would like this. This will be fun for me. Keep in mind biological is down here. Biological is down here. That's area five. I did not say IRA five, right? I said area three or four. I got a few psychologist that wins, right? So psychology you see at these numbers here's a bunch of numbers these are all classes that you can take right so psych psychology 1 2 3 4 5 lot of numbers for the purpose of this uh exercise and this stuff start easy there's no need to stress yourself out let's look at psychology one I'm look for psychology one classes next thing I'm going to do right once I'm going to find it then I'm going to look up the class schedule uh for this as well too so it's literally I'm going to look up Denza uh summer class schedule the reason why I'm doing this training now is you guys can sign up for summer classes by the way, spoilers, right? So then now I look at here and I'm going to look for psychology, right? Every size is a little different so don't copy it exactly but uh psychology, right? And then you'll see here to make it a little bigger so you guys can see what I see. Right? You see that these are psych ones, right? So again, psych one is on this list. I'm awesome. So you see there's a lot of them. There's uh 2 4 6 8 10 11. There's 11 psychology 1 classes, right? Uh in this stuff. Then I tell students look for online courses, right? And you can see here that this class is in person, right? It's a it's a room number to it. So probably not that one. This one's an online that shows up at certain time, right? Unless you are for sure free at Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday 10 to 11, probably don't take that one either. So, if I take those two out, I'm left with these nine classes, man. Nine classes to pick from, right? So, that's that. And they're all online. They're all online courses. They're all psychology one. Now, next piece of this is let's look up the professors because once we find this, we look up the professors, right, for the classes, ## How to Find the Easiest Professors on RateMyProfessors.com [31:00] right? There's a website I use called ratemyprofessors.com, right? And you want to let your school's name. Our school is Denza, right? Denza College. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm going to look up the teachers, right? So, here's how I do it. I go to first teacher here, Mark Healey, right? Mark Healey. I look up Mark Healey right here. Oh, Mark Healey shows up. Look up Mark Healey. Wow. Holy moly. 217 five star. It's like Yelp, by the way. 217 review. Difficulty 1.8. One like one is easiest, right? 96 taken 4.8. So far, this is really, really good, right? Reading the reviews are fast. Take them. Great teacher. Uh, class is very manageable. Uh, easy getting great. Great lecturer. Amazing. Take them. Very easy. I got an A+. Got an A. Holy moly. So far. By the way, if anyone here is going Deanza, I would recommend uh so far this class so far. Right. Boom. So, so far I would like, huh, maybe I take this class. Next one. Robin. Robin. Uh, right. Look at teacher's name. Uh, teacher right here. Ooh. Oo, this one is eh, right? Eh, like difficult, a little harder. Nah, you read the reviews like uh easy class. Uh, enjoyed it. Uh, you get it on, you don't get a lot of teacher support. Um, no communication, didn't learn much again. So, you read the review, you see it. And I'm do one more example. Let's do Sandra uh Trafias. This one. Oh, not bad either, right? So lot of five star five star reviews 1.798 sub. So this one's good, but the other the first teacher had a lot of five stars, a lot of reviews, right? So again, keep in mind, not everyone leaves a review. So if they leave a review, they must really really like the class. So again, so cool taking online class, win to help, a lot of quizzes, uh, exam and study, uh, async class, she's the best, one quiz a week, find the answers, easy, enjoy the class, blah blah blah. So you can kind of see what the the thing is, um, as well, right? Is the thing here. So let's say for example I want to take Mark again do it with everyone. Don't just skip as me. Do it with everyone. Let's say Mark Hill is my teacher that I want to take with. What you want to look at is the CRN. The CRN is the class code as well too. So this is what you give to your counselor to sign up because again by the way if you haven't hit summer yet hopefully not. This is what you need to talk to your counselor to get permission to sign up for this class as well too. So this is the class code for example. Example for me is psychology. psychology number one at the endza. Uh the class code is uh that I give to my counselor. They write in, they sign off for me. Your counselor or principal can sign off for you and once you do it, you're in the class officially. You take the class. Again, the idea is we're going to try to get an easy. Try to get an easy in the class. It hits the rigger, right? You're hitting your gen ed. This is going to count for your gen ed requirements uh as well too. And you are good to go here. ## How to Register Through Your High School Counselor [34:00] Okay, that is exactly literally step by step how to do this. I will go through you go you go to the whole thing search the classes say there's no good ones let's go next number next number what other class maybe not look at sociology look at look at sociology uh search look at the number right sociology has uh one is there so look at number one uh there's a few teachers and so look at that's all I do look look and you'll you'll find the teachers that are uh the best to take for here okay awesome fantastic um let's see if they have any questions in the chat as as well too. Um, question here. Does it count to take college courses before uh fresh how does it count to take college classes before freshman year? You can you can def you can definitely do that. I would recommend it. By the way, if you can do that uh you start early enough, you can do that, but you keep in mind you do need your counselor signature on it. So, you need your counselors to to put trust and faith in you that you'll be fine. Uh is the thing as well too. Okay. Uh how would you recommend picking a community college online? Right? Is there a reason to register for the closest one? If it's online, this is the beauty. Some of our coaching families, they took classes from like an hour away, 3 4 hours away because you're never going to go there because you're never going to go there. You can technically go anywhere you wanted to, right? Um is it? Again, of course, if there's any issues, you might need to come to the school to do some paperwork and stuff. So, sooner the closer the better, of course, but you don't even need to go far, right? The only reason you might need to go a little farther away, I would say, is for some of the more advanced math courses, right? Some teachers are a little tough uh is the biggest thing. So you can definitely uh you can definitely um you may want to go a little farther away for that. Uh if the teacher is a little easier farther away as well too. Okay. I'm seeing a lot of questions in the chat. You guys can drop it in the Q&A please. Uh I can answer anyone's because chat we just chatting back and forth with some folks as well. I have a ninth grade going 10th grade. She ready for do enrollment get started summer. We have students starting uh like I mentioned the family earlier going into ninth grade. So we have students definitely ## Why Dual Enrollment Saves Time, Stress, and Up to $60K [36:00] doing it early. Little pro tip, by the way, for parents. If you're a parent right now, you're listening in. If you start early enough, here's a little hack, by the way. Here's a little hack for you guys. If you start early enough, right, and you take like one class per semester, that your child can easily finish with 30 units by the time they finish high school. 30 units is one year of college. So, when they apply, they're not a transfer student. They're still a first year student. They're applying as a firstear student. you apply. Once they get into that school, their units will kick in automatically. They jump up to sophomore year standing. The higher standing you are, the earlier they'll get classes. So, your child can kind of sign up for classes early. This was you hear stories of classes getting full and they can't sign up. That's why ranking matters. The the further up you are, the more ad the more earlier your your date to sign up for classes are and you can do that, right? um is it? But from a parent point of view, you could save a bunch of money because because your child's starting in sophomore standing, they could graduate in three years. And if you graduate in three years, you're paying for only three years of tuition instead of four. I just saved you guys $30,000. $340,000. You're welcome, friends. And by those of you who are going to be be a little more aggressive with it, you could finish 60 units by the time you guys finish. And which means that's two years. You still apply as a first year. when you get into the school, your units kick in automatically and then once and you can fish in two years, you're done. So those of you guys who are thinking about like, oh my child to do a BSMD program, save the years there, in theory, you can do the same thing with dual enrollment. Do the same thing without the stress of the BSMD concept itself there? Okay. Do enrollment in the fall count towards GPA if you're graduating in 2026? What? Okay. Going back, I'm g share some notes. Sounds like some of our friends joined late today, right? Um, all right. Go back to my notes. What I say about GPA, friends, GPA, ignore. That's one of the most falsest metrics you'll hear. So, when any parent tells you about, oh, my child's GPA is this. Oh, my worry about GPA. I'm like, you're stressing about the wrong things. You definitely don't need to stress out about GPA. I stress out about the other things, right? The grade trends and the rigor. So, when it comes to like uh you should not, by the way, do anything to change your GPA. If you're trying to do something to increase it, that's the wrong that's the wrong approach. You're you're you're answering the wrong It's like when parents tell me, "Coach, Tony, my child's very busy. I can't do anything right now." I'm like, "Are they busy doing the right thing or busy the wrong thing?" Because I I always follow up with these families and they're like, "My child didn't get in. I don't know why they did all the things." I'm like, "You're doing all the wrong things. That's all. You do all the wrong things, you still won't get in." So, keep in mind, do the right things. you're asking the wrong question. Does it count towards GPA? It shouldn't matter. But to answer your question though, uh it depends on what GPA you're talking about. Most schools will end the summer after 11th only. 12th grade grades don't usually get counted for anything. Uh is the thing that's why again this training is timesensitive. If you want to sign up for something, I would recommend this summer is like kind of last call for anything as well too. Okay. Uh is AP psychosych one? That's a high school question, right? I'm not sure what you're trying to say or try to get at that. It depends on your high school if your high school can then count it or not count it. Um, I don't think about that. Uh, you could, right? Some schools allow it as the same credit, some schools don't. So, it depends on what you're asking the question for, but for me, I'm doing it again. I'm doing it from the perspective of I want to get us the college credits and units. That's the key why I'm doing this here. Okay. Is it easier to take computer college psych over AP second high school? I am a big fan of dual enrollment, right? You get it done half the half the time and you don't have to pass the AP exam. If you take the AP psych class, it's a full year and they have to pass the AP exam. Up to you, whatever you want. And dual enroll is usually free. So, and AP exam, you have to probably have to pay for the class too. The exam, right? So, that's it. That that's kind of my my two cents there. Uh, does the name of the community college matter in terms of how rigorous the classes where the credit be counted or not? No. As long as the classes is transferable, California, I get uh the other states, you have your own name for the your program. As long as on that list, you're fine. Don't don't do anything. By the way, honors don't really play plays a doesn't play a huge role uh in the community college there community college honors stuff doesn't really matter too much. Don't don't try to uh don't try to focus too much on that either. Okay. If a student starts before ninth grade, do you recommend area three? Do you still Yes. First few classes, max out three and four first, then do everything else. Right. My plan my daughter plans to do abnormal psych psychology and research massage and in psychology at the ends of the summer. Very nice. Awesome. Uh, very cool. Uh, do commute go add it to your transcript? Does it count to your GPA for GCJ calculations? Again, wrong questions. Wrong questions. We don't need to know about GPA. But to answer your question, right, do they get added to your transcript? Depends on your school. I don't care though, right? The reason why I don't care is when you guys apply to colleges. So, you'll be you'll be sharing your high school transcript and your college transcript. That's why I don't really care if your school counts or not. I'm still going to say do it because we're going to send them send both in there. Number two, does it count? Yes, each class counts as one extra point for the UCGPA. Again, what does that mean? Ignore that. Doesn't mean mean much for the the purpose of admissions, right? But just the answer question has to answer there. Um, how are these uh the classes for SA? Again, keep in mind we're not doing a lot of these classes for majors, right? We're doing these to show the rigor in our schedule. to do the major you can but major you demonstrate through activities not through academics you can't the overlays are there but you demonstrate your major through activities that's the key keep that in mind all right uh my son goes to DTEK no AP and IB how do college select so colleges are regional based so they'll be comparing your son against their high schools number one so if there's no APs that they understand that but even for you now even more reason to take dual enrollment courses because now you have that extra added on that your school doesn't do uh that So I would definitely recommend dual ## Pro Tips: Language Credits, Gen Ed, and UC Transfer Hacks [42:00] enrollment for you as well too. When you say one class per semester that means taking a dual enrollment course doing regular on top of your class load. Yes, it means uh doing what you're doing and supplementing in the dual enrollment. Here's a little spoilers tricks for you guys. Let's say for example, let's say you're taking four APs, right? Four APs is four years of rigor. Instead of taking four years of rigor, what if you take two APs? One class in the fall for dual enrollment, one class in the spring for dual enrollment. On paper, it's four years still, but what you actually are doing, you're actually only doing like three years, if that makes sense, of like college of like rigored courses. So, you're doing less work, but same amount of impact or more. That's kind of the trick here. Uh, as well, are there are not there many college that don't accept dual enrollment community college? So, every school will count it as rigor. Not every school, I'm thinking private schools, not a lot of private schools will honor all the units, right? That being said, I'm still going to do it because again, our goal is to increase the ratio of colleges. Hey, I'm rigorous. I can handle the workload. I'm a high school student taking college level courses. That's why. But again, to I think there are some private schools that won't accept all the units, right? But they'll take all I'll take like 10, 13 units, whatever. And the rest you have to redo again at the school, which is fine because I'm sure if you got into that school, you'd be happy to. Uh is it um kids didn't take a push take regular history? Is it take is it good to take community college history over summer over after 11th grade? You could, right? You could. I'd ask you why you do it. So, if you're doing a coach, Tony, I want to follow your area 4, then go for it, right? Is the thing because uh US history is the same, right? Is the same as uh US history is is in area 4. If you're in California, by the way, uh so that class that class is in there. Uh but if you're doing it to replace it, that doesn't really do much because again, you don't you don't want to replace it. Like if your child doesn't like history, maybe not, right? But you can just take a college level course. You're good to go there. Okay. Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining um with all this as well too. So for those Oh, one more question popped in the chat. Uh can you take a language at dual enrollment in community college level two is level one in the cause? Yes, you can. Little spoilers for you guys. Right. So language classes are typically five units long. Conversion right there. Does in the chat pop quiz. How many how how many credits is uh high school college to high school? One college unit is equals to how many high school credits? Does anyone remember that one? Any remember that one? Three. Five. Close. Three. Ah, there we go. 3.3, right? 3.3. So five units times 3.3 17.5 I believe. 16.5 16.5, right? 16.5 16.5 10 is a year. 6.5 is like a little more than half a year. So one semester at the college level language is equivalent to a year and a half of a language at the high school. Imagine you take two like Spanish 2 or something, right? You take Spanish 2, that's the second year, that's the second half, that's another year and a half, that's three years of uh of language. So technically you can take two semesters, one year at the college to get you three years at the high school. Boom. All right. So, another one of the awesome hacks for you guys there that Oh, one more one more one more like one more came in. So, too heard APS are more rigorous if and and if that if the high school offers better take over the high schools otherwise the admission officers wonder why you didn't take up your high school. Is that true? I would argue I would argue against you. I've been doing it 16 years now. I haven't seen a big thing. That being said, again, readers do see oh yeah, you taken a full year. So, again, it's within context, right? Hey, this class is a year long. This class is a semester long. But I like to work smart. I'm figuring out the big picture, not just the academics. How many of your kids spend hours and hours doing homework? Because they spend hours and hours doing homework, they can't do anything else. For a reason why, if you ## Final Takeaways and How to Work Smarter This Summer [46:00] look at our case studies, check out YouTube, Eagle Lock, right? College the word college backwards, right? Our students are heavily involved in activities. You can't do that if you spend all your time in school. So the only way to do that is you have to reduce the academic time to increase your activity time. That's the big magical lever you want to make sure you do. We'll talk about activities, by the way, later this week if you guys want to join us again. But the key is making sure the academics are still strong, but we purposely try to spend as little time as we can. It's more of a strategy play. Do you can you do os? You can go for it, right? But it's a lot of work. You want to give your child a lot of work? It's up to you guys, right? Parent choice right there. But again, for me, I like to work really, really smart through this whole process to give your child the give your kids the best chance of helping get into the schools they want to go to. Okay, that being said, uh that's pretty much it. If anyone's interested in the replay of this call, go ahead and text our team. I'll put our number in the chat. Uh uh 949-7750865. Text our team. They'll send you the replay and the notes. I I'll clean up a little bit, but yeah, they'll send you that. Uh feel free to text our team. 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