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The Mad Money Guide to Smart Investing: Why Following the Crowd Could Cost You Money

Based on insights from Jim Cramer's Mad Money

The Most Useless Thing You Can Do as an Investor

According to CNBC's Jim Cramer, there's one cardinal sin that separates successful investors from the pack: worrying about what everyone else is worrying about. In a recent episode of Mad Money, Cramer delivered a masterclass in contrarian thinking that every investor should understand.

"The most useless thing you can do as an investor is to worry about what everyone else is worrying about," Cramer explained. "When the vast majority of investors agree that something's going to happen, that thing is already priced into the stock market."

Understanding the "Priced In" Phenomenon

The Speed of Markets vs. Reality

While the real economy moves at a deliberate paceβ€”requiring time to borrow money, build equipment, manufacture goods, and transport them to retail outletsβ€”the stock market operates at near light speed. Stocks don't quite "travel at the speed of thought," but they come close.

This means that once institutional portfolio managers reach consensus on economic trends, whether positive or negative, stocks begin trading as if those scenarios are already reality. By the time everyone agrees on a market direction, you've likely missed the opportunity.

The Efficient Markets Hypothesis: Useful Tool or Academic Fantasy?

Cramer tackled one of finance's most debated theoriesβ€”the Efficient Markets Hypothesis (EMH)β€”which suggests that stock prices always reflect all available information. While index fund advocates use this theory to argue that stock picking is impossible, Cramer offers a more nuanced view.

"Markets are not perfectly efficient," he states firmly. "In fact, they're often irrational. They ignore things, make mistakes, and misvalue information every day."

However, Cramer doesn't dismiss the theory entirely. Instead, he presents what he calls the "Mad Money version" of efficient markets: When there's a widely held consensus view about anything, you must assume that view is already being discounted by the stock market.

Key Investment Strategies for Individual Investors

The Index Fund Foundation

Before diving into individual stock picking, Cramer emphasizes that index funds should form the backbone of most portfolios:

  • Two-thirds of your portfolio should go into low-cost S&P 500 index funds
  • One-third can be allocated to 6-10 individual stocks
  • This approach is "perfect for retirement accounts" and requires minimal maintenance

The Art of Stock Selection

For those ready to pick individual stocks, Cramer and his CNBC Investing Club partner Jeff Marx shared several key strategies:

1. Focus on Gross Margins
"I like to see who has the highest gross margins because that means they've got the biggest moat," Cramer explains. Higher gross margins indicate stronger competitive advantages and pricing power.

2. Read Conference Calls
Marx adds: "Read the conference calls of companies, their peers, and their customers. See who's partnering with whom. This gives you insight into who's best-of-breed."

3. Maintain Proper Diversification
For individual investors, 5-10 stocks typically provide adequate diversification without becoming overwhelming. As Cramer puts it: "Don't be a mutual fund yourself."

When to Buy and Sell

Taking Profits:
- Trim 5-10% of your position after a 20% gain
- Continue trimming at subsequent 20% intervals
- "Discipline must always trump conviction"

Cutting Losses:
- Monitor companies that miss earnings for two consecutive quarters
- Rank your holdings and "boot" underperformers to buy better opportunities
- Remember: "Your first sale is often your best sale" when exiting struggling positions

Avoiding Common Investor Traps

The IPO Cycle Danger

Cramer warns about the seductive but dangerous IPO cycle. While initial public offerings can generate excitement and early profits, they often flood the market with new supply, ultimately dragging prices down.

The 2020-2021 IPO boom serves as a cautionary tale:
- Roughly 600 companies went public in 2021
- Many speculative plays, particularly in electric vehicles, lost 90%+ of their value
- Companies like QuantumScape peaked at $132 before falling to single digits

Key lesson: Be extra cautious when IPOs are "coming hot and heavy."

Signal vs. Noise in Stock Movements

Not every dramatic stock move carries meaning. Cramer distinguishes between:

Signal (meaningful):
- A stock rising despite analyst downgrades
- A stock falling on positive earnings (often indicates a top)

Noise (meaningless):
- Technical bounces from oversold conditions
- Profit-taking after rapid gains

The Right Place, Wrong Time Problem

Sometimes you can pick a great company but profit for the wrong reasons. For example:
- Buying Procter & Gamble for its fundamentals but profiting from a sector rotation into defensive stocks
- Owning solar stocks during the low-interest-rate boom, not realizing the industry depended on cheap financing

Understanding why your stocks are moving helps you make better decisions about when to hold and when to sell.

Practical Tips for Part-Time Investors

Accept "Good Enough" Results

"The best is the enemy of the good," Cramer emphasizes. Don't try to time perfect entries and exitsβ€”focus on making sound decisions consistently.

Buy and Homework, Not Buy and Hold

  • Continue researching companies after purchasing their stocks
  • Be prepared to sell if fundamentals deteriorate
  • Stay informed but don't overtrade

Trading vs. Investing

For most people with full-time jobs, active trading isn't practical or profitable. Instead:
- Buy stocks gradually on declines
- Sell portions on significant advances
- Focus on companies you believe in long-term
- Don't try to time every market gyration

The Bottom Line

Successful investing often means thinking differently from the crowd. When everyone's panicking about the same threat, that's probably not what will hurt your portfolio. The real danger comes from risks that nobody sees coming.

As Cramer concludes: "If you want to be a better investor, don't tear your hair out worrying about the same things as everybody else. Instead, you should worry about the things other people don't seem to care about."

Remember, while it's tempting to follow the herd, the most profitable opportunities often lie in thinking independently and having the courage to act on your convictionsβ€”even when everyone else is heading in the opposite direction.

For more investing insights and to join the CNBC Investing Club, visit cnbc.com/investingclub


πŸ“ Transcript (1332 entries):

Hey, I'm Kramer. Welcome to Mad Money. Welcome to Kramer. Be one of my friends. I'm just trying to make you a little money. My job is not just to entertain, but to educate and teach you. So call me at 1800743. Tweet me at Jim Kramer. You want to know the single most useless thing you can do in this business? Oh, that's easy. The most useless thing you can do as an investor is to worry about what everyone else is worrying about. The flip side of this is also true. There's no point in getting excited about something that everybody else is eagerly anticipating. Why? See, because when the vast majority of investors agree that something's going to happen, that thing is already priced into the stock market. Priced in while the real economy moves at its own state pace. For example, you got to borrow money to buy it, build out equipment. Then you use that equipment to manufacture goods and transport them to retail outlets and wait for the customer to come along and buy them. The stock market has no such limitations. Stocks don't quite travel at the speed of thought, but they come pretty close. So the moment a preponderance of hedge fund and mutual fund managers decide that the economy is slowing or speeding up or flatlining, stocks start trading like that's already the case. Usually it takes some time to build that kind of consensus, which is why you rarely see these moves happening instantaneously. But once the big institutional portfolio managers are on the same page about something, you can be pretty darn confident that it's baked into the averages. This is some basic economics 101 stuff. Now, I don't have a ton of use for economists as a professional on this show. They tend to take a totally ivory tower approach to this discipline. Meaning, they have all sorts of models for how the the world's supposed to work. The economy is supposed to work. Often very boring models, by the way. But they rarely let the empirical facts get in the way of a good theory. If the data conflicts with the model, economists have a bad habit of throwing away the data and not the model. However, as long as you keep that caveat in mind, some basic economics is incredibly useful when you're trying to manage your own money. For example, let's take something a little bit difficult, but we're going to get get to this together. What's known as the efficient markets hypothesis. This series says that at any given moment, stock prices already reflect all the relevant information that's out there. And when some new piece of data comes out, stocks immediately adjust to reflect the new reality. You often hear index fund purists citing this theory to explain why it's impossible for stock pickers to get any kind of edge. Because whatever you know about a company should already be baked into its share price. As far as they're concerned, markets are so efficient that investing in individual stocks is basically the same as gambling. If everything you could possibly know is already priced into the stock, that means your homework's meaningless. And the only thing that can push a stock higher or lower is some random new piece of information nobody knows about, it has to be something totally unknown. Because if anyone did know, they would have acted on it already. Erggo would be baked into the share price. That means under the extreme version of the efficient market hypothesis, the only thing that can move stocks are unknown unknowns to use the parliament of former defense secretary Donald Run. And if you're merely betting on unknown unknowns, you might as well just be playing roulette. It's more fun. Again, that's why index funds ei advocates adore the efficient markets hypothesis. This theory tells them that it's impossible for individual investors to consistently beat the averages. So, if you want equity exposure, the only spot way to do it is putting your money into a nice lowcost index fund that mirrors the S&P 500. Now, as anyone who watch the show regularly knows, I have no beef with index funds. In fact, I think they're the best way for the vast majority of people to invest in the market. I've held that way that position since the year 2000. Even if you got the time and the inclination to pick individual stocks and manage your own portfolio, you should still direct a big chunk of your savings, if not the plurality of it, into some cheap S&P 500 index fund. It's the safest way to give yourself equity exposure. It's perfect for your retirement accounts. Think of it like this. It's not that easy to be a good individual stock investor. It takes real work, which is why, of course, we try to help you join if you join the CBC investing club, but it's an incredibly easy thing to be an index fund investor. putting money in a 401k or IRA. Oh, that's index fund territory. You can gradually contribute over time with every paycheck. And as long as you believe the US economy can keep growing over the long haul, you can park that money in an index fund and check in on it maybe once or twice a month. But to get back on track, this idea that you can can't possibly beat the averages because of the efficient market hypothesis tells us stocks are always perfectly valued. And you know what? That's just totally bogus. Putting aside the fact that I did consistently beat the averages nearly every year at my old hedge fund, giving my clients a 24% compound annual return after all fees over the course of 14 years versus 8% for the S&P. The simple truth is that markets are not perfectly efficient. In fact, frankly, they're often irrational. They ignore things, make mistakes, misval information every day. And that's a major reason why anyone can make money picking individual stocks. These anomalies are everywhere and they can be great for your portfolio. Ironically, this core dogma of free market economics is a lot like communism. Makes a lot of sense in theory. It doesn't necessarily work in life. So, why the heck did I bring up the efficient market hypothesis in the first place? Is it's such a boneheaded idea? Because even if the most extreme form of this theory isn't true, and it's not, empirically, we know for a fact that markets are all kinds of inefficient. It's still a very useful idea. As an ironclad law of the universe, the efficient markets hypothesis can't help us. But as a rough guideline, it can lead us in the right direction. Markets try to be efficient. They aspire to be to efficiency. When a company reports a fantastic quarter and stock spikes immediately because that kind of data that can get baked in very quickly. When the Federal Reserve changes policy telling us it's probably done raising interest rates like we saw in late 2023. Uh that's huge news and it takes longer to get reflected in the average. Baking that in can take months. Even when the Fed abruptly changed course as the end of 2018 that kind that it took weeks to work in through the averages. Stocks that benefit from lower rates will instantly sore, but it can take days or weeks or even months for the average to fully reflect the new normal because it takes time for portfolio managers to reposition. We're talking about huge slugs of stock here. No hedge or mutual funds is going to buy or sell them all at once. Sooner or later though, we do reach a new equilibrium. So, let me give you the mad money version of the efficient markets hypothesis. quality kind of sort of efficient markets correlary. When there's a widely held consensus view about something, anything, be it positive or negative, you have to assume that view is already being discounted by the stock market. So when everyone's feeling euphoric about the strong job market, that's probably baked into stock prices already. When everybody's worried about a temporary Fed mandated slowdown is probably baked in. When investors are hunkering down in fear of bad earning season, don't expect the stocks to get slammed in disappointing numbers. People are already anticipating a disappointment. In short, when all the talking heads and journalists and media friendly money managers are telling you to be afraid of the same thing, that might be the one thing you don't actually need to be worried about. Let everybody else worry for you. From the stock market's perspective, the fact that most investors believe something's going to happen means that Wall Street's already treating it as a reality. Yet, it's so easy to fall prey to group think when you're managing your own money. Emotions are infectious, like a communical disease. Frankly, when you see all sorts of experts coming on television and saying the same thing while the newspapers print similar stories and your friends echo this stuff back to you, it's only natural to assume it must be true. And you know what? Very often it is true. But that doesn't mean it's going to move stock prices. By the time we get any kind of real consensus on an issue, that move is probably over. You missed it. The bottom line, if you want to be a better investor, don't tear your hair out freddy about the same things as everybody else. Instead, you should worry about the things other people don't seem to care about. because the real threat is the one that you don't see coming. Let's take questions. Let's go to Mary in Idaho. Mary, hi Jim. Nice to talk to you again. I um have a comment and a question for you. The comment is regarding uh when you were talking about um the conventional stupidity. Yes. I sent you an email on that and I hope you'll have uh an opportunity to to read it. Um I thought you'd enjoy it. Um the question the question is at what percent of increase in a stock should a person consider taking some or all of their profit either to reinvest immediately or to just hold back as cash to buy something down the road. Okay, let's take this from the point of view of uh that you need to sell something in order to be able to buy something. What I like to do and we talk about this CBC investing club is that if a stock has change, if there are fundamental differences from what happened when I bought it. In other words, let's say I bought a stock and then subsequently it has two bad quarters. Well, that's what I want to sell. I rank the stocks. I lower stocks ranking if they've missed a couple of quarters and then I boot that to buy something I think is better. There are going to be moments where a third quarter turns out to be good and I didn't get it and I kick myself when that happens. But what I've done is create a level of discipline that that's what you should do. Mary and thank you for your email too. Let's go to Dave in Colorado. Dave, hi Jim. Dave, how are you? Colorado Booya to you, sir. Booyah. Longtime listener, first- time caller. Uh, thank you for all you do. A side note, my mom got me into investing decades ago and had me watch Wall Street Week and Review with Lewis Ruka, Marty's wife, and you are carrying on their legacy. So, thank you. That's how I got involved, too. So, we're in the same boat. Let's go to work. All right, let's go to work. Here's the setup. I'm calling on behalf of my girlfriend who is in her early 60s. She's retired with a state pension. She has an investment management firm managing 600,000 in stocks and ETFs in tax deferred accounts, but they're charging her 1% per year. Okay. They haven't kept pace with the S&P 500 and have actually avoided the mag 7 and growth stocks almost completely. She wants to manage her money on her on her own. Two questions. How should she construct a portfolio of her own? And over what time frame should she make the change? Okay, so I would put twothirds of it in an S&P index fund. Obviously, if they can't beat it, just go for it and join it. Then one/3 I would structure around we've been saying a portfolio of say six to 10 stocks of which two or three can be overweighted and large mostly mag seven I should add stocks that we think are really great. CBC Investing Club can help you pick those 10 cuz we have a portfolio of around more than 30 and you just take the 10 that you're most excited about and no more 1%. you're now free to move. And uh well, she is and tell her congratulations for having saved up that much money. That's terrific. All right. The most useless thing you can do as an investor is to worry about what everybody else is worried about. Remember, the real threat is the one you didn't see coming. I made money today. I'm giving you my Madanomics 101 course and giving you all my best practices for investing. Sometimes you need to take a step back and evaluate what not just what you're investing in, but how. So if you want to better your investing skills, I say yes indeed. Stick with Kramer. Don't miss a second of MadMoney. Follow Jim Kramer on X. Have a question? Tweet Kramer #madmentions. Send Jim an email to madmoney@cnbc.com or give us a call at 1800743CNBC. Miss something, head to madmoney.cnbc.com. Like I told you before the break, when you pack into a crowded trade, you're playing with fire. If everybody's on the same page about a stock or even a whole sector, that usually means the easy money's already been made. Doesn't mean you can't profit from something obvious. But when you're late to the party, you're going to have lower returns and higher risk. That look, that's just the nature of the beast. Fortunately, nobody's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to follow the hedge fund herd. In fact, you don't even have to think about spotting tops and bottoms by gauging sentiment if you don't want to. There are lots of different ways to invest. Some of them take less work than others. For example, there's timing. You could try to call every girration in the averages, buying stocks when they look poised for near-term bottom, then selling them when they look toppy. You can trade around a core position. You take a large holding. Then you lighten up on part of your position when it gets overextended to the upside and buy it back when the stock sells off. You can keep your battle in your shoulder, waiting for the perfect moment where the whole market sells off dramatically, giving you a chance to pick up your favorite stocks for much less than they're worth. my fave back on my old hedge fund. I love doing this stuff. If you've got the time and of course you need the inclination and the right resources, it is a terrific way to make money. But if you got a full-time job, this whole approach is just nuts. And I say that as someone with a terrifying extended family history of mental illness. Regular people who work on that's funny. Regular people who work for a living don't have time to stare at the tape all day. Even if you work the night shift, it's just not a good use of your precious free time. More importantly, trading this actively just isn't worth the agitation. That's why I come here every night to do the show. I focus on the market like a hawk so that you can take a less intense approach to investing. One that lets you go to work and have a personal life. It's why we help walk you through all these different things with our charitable trust when you join the CBC Investing Club, which you know I really want you to do. So, how should you approach the market if you're not prepared to devote your entire waking life to watching stocks? What's the safest way to handle individual stocks part-time? For starters, let me say once again that index funds are a wonderful thing. If at any point what I'm describing sounds too daunting to you or just too timeconuming, please do not hesitate to say individual stocks are not for me and just put most of your mad money. That's the cash investment that's not part of your retirement portfolio into a nice lowcost index fund or ETF. They have very low fees that mirrors the S&P 500. I said this before the break, too, but that's because it's good advice. Being a savvy stock investor takes work. Being a savvy index fund investor, well, let's just say it's relatively easy. Sure, if you manage your portfolio well, if you do the homework and stay disciplined, I think you can beat the S&P 500 with a diversified group of individual stocks. And I do like one or two overweighted, just, you know, but not everybody has that kind of time. Not everybody has that temperament. Not everyone is comfortable taking on more risk to chase a higher return. And that's perfectly fine, too. See, you got to do what's right for you. Call that suitability. What suits you? So, keep that index fund option in your back pocket. Now, assuming you really do want to try to profit from individual stocks, let's talk about how you can do that without the stock market taking total control of your life. First, from the get-go, you need to accept that the best is enemy of the good. There's no point in trying to buy or sell stocks at the perfect moment. Nobody's that talented. Even making the attempt will drive you nuts. You need to accept results that are good enough rather than trying to chase perfection. For example, if a stock you like gets hammered down from $60 to $50 and you pull the trigger, but then it goes down another couple of points before it bottoms and rebounds to $60. Please don't kick yourself for making a mistake. You didn't screw up. You made a good pick. Okay? Yeah, you could have made a couple extra points if your timing had been flawless, but a win's a win. Second, regular viewers know that I don't believe in the concept of buy and hold. I believe in the concept of buy and homework, meaning you need to keep researching your companies after you own a piece of them. And if something goes terribly wrong, well, you may have to bail. I think it's a good idea to buy stocks slowly on the way down and sell them gradually on the way up. All this requires a certain amount of active management. Please don't feel compelled to be too active, though. Now, the last thing you need is to be flitting in and out of stocks with every giration in the broader market. You want to be an investor, not a trader. You think you can time things perfectly and flit in and out, but most gains occur in concentrated bursts. So, you're liable to miss them if you're on the sidelines. Thank you, the great Peter Lynch for for putting that in my head. Again, if you've got the time and the inclination to trade, that's great. However, most people don't. When you got a full-time job and you're trying to manage your own portfolio, you need to be willing to sit tight with the stocks you believe in. There will be selloffs. There will be rotations out of one group and into another. There will be crazy action on a week- toeek and even day-to-day basis. You don't have to constantly adjust your holdings based on these moves. If you believe in the stocks you own, and you shouldn't own anything that you don't believe in, then you should be willing to stick with them when the backdrop gets tough. Ideally, you you'd be able to trade in and out. But like I told you, the best is the enemy of the good. In reality, when everybody's panicking over the latest crisis, you're going to be tempted to panic, too, and just sell everything. Get out now. You might even avoid a substantial decline by bailing on the whole stock market. Sooner or later, you're going to need to get back in. The whole point of sidest stepping a decline is to sell high and buy your favorite stocks back at a lower level. Unfortunately, again, it's really hard to nail the timing here. You see my theme? It's I don't want you to do the impossible. If you dump everything, there's no guarantee you'll be able to buy your stocks back before something changes and the market comes roaring back. Witness when the market bottomed in October of 2023 when long-term interest rates peaked and started heading lower. Well, something almost nobody saw coming. What's the solution? If you don't want to give yourself a panic attack every day, keep doing the homework so you know what you own. When your stock surge higher, use that opportunity to ring the register just on part of your position. Raise a little cash after 20% move or more. You need to take something off the table. That's my limit these days. When you stop when your stocks get hit, put that cash to work buying more shares at lower prices. But you don't have to nail every shortterm top and bottom. Let me give you the bottom line here. To trade or not to trade, that is the question. If you're trying to be an investor who doesn't need to stare at the tape all day long, it's nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. You don't need to be perfect at managing your money. You just need to be good enough. And that means you shouldn't waste your time trying to anticipate every little gyration in the market. Take a page from Jimmy Chill and relax. Money's back. Booya for the emperor of crime. Honorable James J. Kramer, you got me jumping around my office right now. Thank you so much for all you do for us. I enjoy your show and I find it very entertaining and informative. I watched your first ever episode of Mad Money back in 2005 and I've been watching every single episode ever since. Don't miss Mad Money every night at 6 p.m. Eastern. Plus, join the CNBC Investing Club and stick with Kramer around the clock. The stock market talks to me a and I mean that figuratively, not literally. Contrary to what you may have read on X, formerly known as Twitter, I do not hear voices. Although periodically I think that my left molar crown does indeed play music, but that's not what we're talking about here. I'm constantly listening to the tape, not music, to get a read on what the big institutional money measures are up to. And to do that, I need to separate the signal from the noise. What do I mean by that? Okay, on any given day, there might be monster moves in individual stocks. It's tempting to assume that all these swings are equally significant, but some are a lot more meaningful than others. So, when you see the cloud stocks for just getting killed, for example, the natural conclusion to draw is something must be wrong with the cloud. When a really loathed group bounces, it's not much of a stretch to assume that the pain must be over the house of pain. But that's too easy. The truth is, some of these moves are a signal and some of them are noise. Signal means something. It tells you that the stock will probably keep moving in the same direction. Noise on the other hand, well, is noise. To borrow my favorite line from McBTH, noise is a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. In short, while signal carries a message, there's no real takeaway from noise. In another life, Shakespeare would have been a dynamite investor. Distinguishing the signal from the noise is as much an art as a science. So, how do you tell when a major stock swing hurled something larger? Before we get into what makes a move meaningful, you need to understand that we get major single day advances and declines with no real significance all the time. Good stocks can get ahead of themselves, rallying too far, too fast for selling off. The technical term for this is overbought. And charters measure it with the slow stochastic oscillator or the Williams percentage R oscillator named after the legendary Larry Williams we talk about a lot when we go off the charts. When something's overbought, it means pretty much everybody who wanted the stock at a given level has already purchased it. Even the highest quality company can have an overbought stock. And when you run out of buyers, you almost always get a pullback. But this kind of overbought sell-off doesn't tell you anything except that the stock in question need to take a breather and digest its gains. At the same time, even bad stocks can rally and for similar reasons. If they get oversold because they've come down too quickly, you tend to get a nice oversold bounce. Once again though, this is the sort of rally that doesn't convey much information. It's noise. A stock gets oversold, it bounce, and unless something else changes, it can go right back down once the works off the bounce. I bring this up because when you see dramatic swings in individual stocks, your mind will try to draw a connection to the fundamentals, the real world facts about how the underlying company's actually doing. Sometimes that connection genuinely exists. Other times the action in the stock is noise, not a signal, and you'll end up feeling very foolish if you take your cue from that kind of action. Those who want to know more about this can go back to the cannon on stock markets and that's Confessions of a Street addict where I describe how easy it is to see a stock move a point and convince yourself something's really happening underneath. It's a really funny part of the book. All that really happens is that you have more buyers than sellers at a given moment. In a way that might be totally unrelated to the actual company. I demonstrate that with a long time ago with the stock called Stride Right. It's pretty funny. Hey, by the way, this is something we're constantly walking you through with the CNBC Investing Club. Of course, it's not just the techs. There are plenty of other reasons why a stock might explode higher or melt down that have nothing to do with the fundamentals. Sometimes the market simply makes a mistake and then the mistake gets rolled back. No greater significance. Maybe people misinterpret a good quarter as a bad one. Something that happens quite often during earning season because there's so many things happening at once. Maybe money managers are dumping stocks in one group purely to raise money so they can buy it in another. Yeah. One that's hotter. So, what kind of action carries real significance? How do you know when a big move's foreshadowing something even bigger down the line? All right, there's a lot of signal that's pretty obvious. A company reports a blowout quarter and his stock roars. Obvious. Analyst cuts estimates and the stock plummets. Obvious. That's just business usual. Now, I prefer to look for the unusual. A company catches an analyst downgrade and it stock goes up. Interesting signal. counterintuitive. In my experience, when a stock refuses to go lower on bad news, it often means that's putting in a bottom and is ready to rocket higher. By the same token, when a company reports a fantastic quarter, it gives great guidance a bullish cover and the stock gets slammed. Well, look, that's the kind of signal I'm looking for, too. It means Wall Street believes this company's looking at its last great quarter. When your stock falls on positive news, well, you may be looking at the top. For the most part, though, you can't decipher hidden messages in the way stocks are trading, except in some rare cases, you probably shouldn't even try. It's important to know what's working and what's not working in any given market. But you can't let your money management decisions be completely guided by what's in or out of style in the Wall Street fashion show. Otherwise, you end up owning stocks just because they're going higher. And that is a terrible place to be because you won't know what the heck to do with them once they inevitably start coming down. Here's the bottom line. When you're evaluating a stock, take your cue from the fundamentals of the underlying company. Don't put too much significance on day-to-day girations in the share price. Sometimes you can extrapolate a great deal from a big move in an individual stock, but more often it's telling you something you already know or it's just noise that means nothing. Let's take calls. Let's go to Howard, New York. Howard, bully you, Jim. This is Howie from the Bronx. First time caller and club member. Excellent. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, Howie. What's going on? Every time I visit with my grandson, he looks at my portfolio cuz he knows I'm always watching Mad Money every day. And thanks to your 10:00 a.m. conference calls and your intraday alerts, he sees gains of anywhere from 60 to 200% of some of my stock. Now, my grandson, he wants to be an investor, too. I hope. So, here are my questions. Okay, threefold. When do I start to trim? How much should I trim? And more importantly, because I like these stocks so much and I believe in them, when can I get back in? Okay, these are really great questions. They're fundamentals because what happens is is that we believe in discipline and we believe in conviction. Discipline must always trump conviction. That means that we like to start trimming 20 at 20% up. We'll trim between 5 and 10%, another 20%. Same thing. If we really want to be able to be in shape to be able to buy some back, we must do that. And that's how we play it. Otherwise, we let it run if we got our cash out. Holy cow. Ned in Ohio. Ned Fivestar Professor Kramer. It's good to talk to you today, sir. How are you? I am good, Ned. Thank you for calling in. How can I help you? Yes, sir. Well, uh, a couple months ago, I was listening to Warren Buffett and he talked about, uh, high growth rate companies that eventually forge their own anchor. He said the company keeps expanding and its shares kept rising. Would you explain that to me? And does it uh is Nvidia an example of that? Well, okay, Nvidia is a really great example. Let me tell you why. Because when you look at Nvidia on forward earnings or the estimates, it always looks expensive and then it so far trumps those estimates that when you look backward, it turns out that the stock was selling at a remarkably low price during mobile. And that's been the secret to Nvidia literally since 2012. Incredible. It just keeps doing that. All right. Please don't put too much significance on day-to-day girrations in a stock share price. You have to know when something is a signal and when it's all just sound and noise signifying nothing. Watch where Mad Money. I'm highlighting one of the key pitfalls that many investors falsely think of as an opportunity. I'll explain why you should be more cautious than you think. and I'm taking all your investing questions with my investing club partner Jeff Mars. So stay with Kramer. Good evening, Mr. Kramer. Thank you. Thank you for everything you do. You've been such a wonderful source of information with your teachings. I have to say thanks. Thank you for all your advice and saving us from ourselves. Your advice let me quit a job that I hated. I love you to death. Thank you for everything you do. Thanks for making us money and more importantly, thanks from keeping us from losing money. All night I've been warning you about the dangers of being a follower. When everybody expects the same outcome in the stock market, there's a very good chance it won't play out as expected because it's already priced in. That's what we call priced in. And that's why you need to be extra wary of the IPO cycle. Let's go over this. We've seen the pattern over and over again. We get this delusion of new deals. At f at first, many of them explode higher. But at the same time, they're flooding the market with new stock supply. And that supply ultimately drags us down. I said it a million times. The stock market is like any other market. It's all about supply and demand. Too much supply and prices are going to be lower. The problem is when IPOs are making people fortunes, you tend to get a palpable sense of exuberance. And then when the deals start attracting less interest, the exuberance turns into hostility and then the whole market, not just the IPOs, tends to get slammed. We've seen this happen so many times in 2020. In 2021, we got this wave of new IPOs and spack mergers as many people invested their government stimulus checks in the hottest looking stocks in the market. Just in 2021, get this, we had roughly 400 traditional IPOs and another 200 Spack mergers, which originally were meant to be blank check companies that would make a bunch of acquisitions over time. But in 2020, lots of startups began to use spack mergers as a way to come public while evading the strict regulations that the SEC commit, you know, the Securities Exchange Commission places on IPOs. Now, initially, there were some very exciting ones that really caught fire. For example, Zoom video. This one came public in 2019 and then soared to the stratosphere in 2020 once the pandemic made its platform essential at least during the co era. At first you you get a bunch of hot deals to get people excited. 2020 we also had a ton of electric vehicle and charging station related IPOs and spack mergers. At first these stocks were unstoppable. Although most of that was because this was a period of high-risisk speculation where people were willing to give anything with the right buzzwords the benefit of the doubt mistakenly of course reminiscent of the dotcom era in the late 90s when anything connected with the internet was beloved until the market was flooded with excess supply and the whole group collapsed in the year 2000. I'm going to give you a really concrete example from 2020. It's a company called Quantum Space. quantum space which in retrospect was basically a science experiment looking to develop better battery technology for electric vehicles. Anyone can develop better more efficient batteries with the ability to charge very quickly and and you can make a killing. Even in a world where electric cars have lost some of their luster but QuantumCape was a long way from having anything they could actually commercialize and they could sell. Even four years later, these guys still didn't have any meaningful revenue. Back in 2020 and early 2021, Wall Street was still giving the benefit of the doubt to anything connected to electric vehicles. QuantumCape came public via spa deal and you have to be mer you remember you have to be really skeptical of those. And when that merger was announced, the spa it was merging with saw it stock more than double in just two trading sessions putting in the 20s. Now during this initial period of maximum hype, the stock I know this is going to be crazy but stock shot up to nearly $132 and that's where it peaked in December 2020. Then we started seeing short sellers come out of the woodwork arguing it was a scam and Wall Street gradually lost interest in companies with zero profitability, let alone super speculative names like QuantumCape. No revenue. In the end, the stock got obliterated by late 2022 was the single digits and has only been able to bounce above those levels at times thanks to what I regard as an occasional short squeeze. And look, QuantumCape's hardly alone. Don't mean to pick on it. All sorts of electric vehicle plays that came public during the IPO frenzy of 20 and 21 got crushed. Rivian, although it ended up coming back, but Lucid, Nicola, Canoe, the Lion Electric, Lightning Motors, Lordstown Motors, Faraday, Future Intelligent Electrics, all saw their stocks punched more than 90% from peak to trough. Many like Nicola turned out to be well had some fraudulence. Their founder and CEO was even sentenced to prison. Again though, we had roughly 600 companies come public just in 2021. And by the second half of that year, many of these deals were blowing up in your face because we already had far too many newly minted stocks. The moment the Fed started talking tough about raising interest rates in November 2021, the entire edifice collapsed and these new issues spent pretty much the entirety of 2022 getting eviscerated. That's why I came at it and warned you about the dangers of the IPO mania late 2021. I said there was one surefire way to wound a bull market and that's by flooding it with lots of supply, new supply. Again, when tons of companies start coming public, we basically get a supply glut in the stock market. I also warn you that eventually the IPO bubble would burst and then you might be left holding the bag. Don't forget hundreds of really lowquality companies that came public in the 2000 year ultimately went bankrupt. 2021 was just as bad. In fact, you could argue it was worse because so many of these were spack mergers and that could make absurdly overconfident long-term forecasts that the SEC would never allow in a traditional IPO. The other big problem when portfolio managers get excited about putting a lot of money to work in new IPOs, they often need to raise that money to by selling something else. And when there are a lot of large deals, they need to do a lot of selling. 2021 was a little different thanks to the Fed's zero interest rate policy and all the stimulus checks that people got from the government. But in a normal IPO cycle, the new tends to trout out the old. That's what happens. You sell to buy. Remember, the bulk of the new money that comes into the market goes into index funds and they can't participate in IPOs because those stocks aren't in the indices yet. The actively managed funds that participate in these deals in the aggregate don't have enough cash coming in to get in on a bunch of big deals without selling something else. There's the mechanics of it. So, the next time we have a big wave of upcoming initial public offerings, I need you to remember that it pays to be cautious when the IPOs are coming hot and heavy. The bottom line, as much as I love anything that generates enthusiasm for the stock market, of course, nothing goes that like a few massively successful IPOs, you got to be careful when we get a whole wave of new issues. The IPO cycle tends to start out strong, generate a lot of euphoria, then it burns out and all the new stock supply can really weigh on the market. Please just keep in mind that concept the next time you get excited about a bunch of redhot deals and mad money is back after the break. By Jim, I love you, man. I've been watching you from day one. Thank you for all the wonderful advice that you provide us. I'm learning so much watching your show. Watch your program every day. I love it. Always wanted to say booya on your show. Thank you for being the greatest in the world. We consider you the money market maker and we thank you for all you do. I love your show. Lauren Hunts your show and we think it's the most entertaining program on TV. When you're picking stocks, you need to be very careful about doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. This happens more often than you expect. Let's say you find a great company, well managed, strong fundamentals, good dividend. You buy that company stock and it goes up. It's only natural to conclude that the stock's rallying for all the reasons that you liked it in the first place. That's not always true. You might think a win is a win, but sometimes it's more complicated than that. If you don't understand why a stock's moving up or down, you're probably going to be very confused when it stops doing that and goes in the opposite direction. And when we're confused, well, guess what happens? We make really lousy decisions. For example, there are a bunch of excellent well-run consumer packaged goods. They call them CPG companies. Maybe you want to buy Proctor and Gamble. Longtime favorite. There are lots of logical reasons to like them. But like I told you earlier, logic is rarely what drives the stock market on a day-to-day basis. So let but let's follow through here. Suppose you pick up some Proctor and Gamble because you really believe in management or you like the dividend or you think that plastic and fuel costs are going down which will boost the company's gross margins. That's a huge part of the expense. So you buy the stock and then it explodes higher. What's next? Well, you have to ask yourself, why is it rallying? It's very easy to tell yourself, I nailed it. This market's finally giving Proctor the credit it deserves. When you buy a stock and it goes up, that means you were right. Why would you second guess yourself when you're right? Well, the answer is simple because maybe you were just lucky. As I've told you before, it's better to be lucky than good. But either way, you need to be able to tell the difference. So, when you pack, you know, let's say you rack up a nice win in Proctor, you should ask yourself if you were right or if you simply happen to be in the right place at the right time. What do I mean by right place time? Rotation, rotation, rotation. There are times when the consumer package goods stocks roar higher for reasons that have nothing to do with the underlying companies. Proctor, like all the consumer package goods place, is a recession stock because its earnings tend to hold up during a slowing economy. Its stock roars when we get lousy economic data. If you buy these stocks because you believe in the business, but then they go higher as part of a sector rotation that has nothing to do with the business. You still got to win. The bank isn't going to tell you that they can't take that money because they don't accept profits from rotations. But you don't want to get caught with your pants down because the market suckered you into believing that Proctor and Gamble was going out based on the fundamentals when really it was benefiting from rotation into the whole consumer package goods stock sector. You know the Colgates J&J. This is what I meant earlier about filtering out the signal from the noise. And it is hard to do. Why? Because of something called confirmation bias. When you have a thesis and new evidence seems to prove your thesis correct, the natural thing is to believe you were right all along. You should approach that feeling with skepticism. Maybe you're right. People are right about stocks every day. But maybe it's just a coincidence. Darn it. And you should ring the register before that coincidence goes away. So, okay, let me give a concrete example. The residential solar stock soared in 2020 and 2021 and kept running into 2022, even when most growth plates were getting pulverized. If you owned it, maybe you thought you were winning because people were embracing renewable energy and the government was subsidizing it heavily. But in 2023, the residential solar stocks, they got obliterated. Why? Do you know it had nothing to do with the popularity of renewable energy, and it couldn't be stopped by generous federal subsidies? Instead, it turned out that people can't really afford residential solar systems without borrowing money. Meaning, the whole industry was actually built not on solar, but on financing. And once people realized long-term interest rates would remain elevated for quite some time, the residential solar stocks, they all got crushed. It's not a coincidence something like Nphase was roaring in 2020 and 2021 when people could borrow money for next to nothing. So, let me give you the bottom line on this. It's very helpful to understand why a stock you like is going up or down. When you have a win, don't lazily assume that you simply got it right. Think about what it means if you were merely in the right place at the right time. And please proceed with caution. Stick with crap. Tonight I've taught you all about manomics 101, but now it's time to turn to you. My viewers are smart, which is why my favorite part of the show, as I always tell you, is answering questions directly from you. Now, tonight I'm bringing in Jeff Marx, my portfolio analyst, partner in crime at the CBC Investing Club to answer some of your questions. And Jeff, you don't get us well ahead of some of these callers have been calling in saying you do a pretty great job. You know, keep your head so we can get through the door here. For those of you who are in the club, Jeff will need no introduction. For those of you who aren't members, and soon I hope you will be. Jeff's insight and our and our back and forth really are what we think is a major part of being part of the investing club. Thank you very much. All right, now let's get started. First up, we have a question from Jimmy who asks, "How can we best and we identify the best companies within an industry?" Now, I have a way that I like to do. I like to see who has the highest gross margins because that means they've got the biggest moat. That means they can make the most money and it's something that people don't look at enough, the gross margin. Yeah, that's a great way to do it. You could also look at who's growing the fastest as well, revenues. But another way I I think is really important is read the conference calls of of the companies and and and their peers and their customers. See who's partnering with who. That will give you a good tell about who's best of breed, who has the best products, who's doing the best by their customers. That's a really good point because I find that uh in the conference call you get a real sensib way of whether the analysts hate it or like it. You can often see by their questions whether they are in awe or they think that there's something that's suboptimal. So it's great great point to the conference calls. Now next up we have a question from Ian in Pennsylvania who asks you stressed the importance of being diversified and also doing your homework. Is there a point where one individual can have too many different stocks to be able to keep up with the homework while staying diversified? I used to discuss this question with pop my father. He had usually like to have 40 or 50 stocks. And I would say to him, "Dad, why do you have 40 50?" He goes, "You know, Jimmy, I I work a couple hours a day and then I spend a lot of time just looking at the market." So, I like to look at a lot of stocks. Now, he had time on his hands. Most people don't. That's why I usually say that try to keep it to 10. Don't be a mutual funer yourself. Yeah. I think the benefits of diversification, they start to diminish uh at a certain point if you keep adding and adding and adding stocks. But that's 5 to 10. That's what we generally say for the club. Start with pick the ones you like. Use your power of observation, curiosity, and and as you can do more of the homework, that's when you can start adding more. Yeah. And I think that's a perfect perfect situation. Next up, we have a question from Dean, also from Pennsylvania, who asks, "I'm considering either an S&P 500 index fund or a total stock market index fund for purchase. Both seem to have very similar expense ratios and historical returns. What is the primary difference between the two? Which you feel is better? Do you know that John Bogle personally told me, Jim, I want you to put in your 401k, I want it to be in the total stock market return fund of Vanguard?" And that's what I did. And I wanted And why did he want me to do He said over the long term you'll get a little bit better performance because you'll be diversified away from the S&P and you'll end up picking some really good young growth stocks that are in the total stock market return. Yeah, that's exactly the difference, right? S&P 500 that's going to be more of the large caps while total stock is uh you'll have the midcaps, some of the smaller caps as well, but I I think if you look over the long run, the turns the returns aren't going there's not going to be much of a difference between the two. And I did TSA fine either, right? But I I ended up doing it because the father of the index fund is John Bogle as you know and Jack said, "Jim, this total stock for turn will beat it." Now, there was a very long period where it did, but it's really kind of Anyway, I'm just doing it out of homage to the to the late John Bogle who is amazing guy. All right, now let's go to Miles in New York who asks, "What are your stages in cutting bait?" Now, I'm presuming cutting bait means when are we doing some selling? Up 20%, we like to do a little sale, then up another 20%. We've been very uh let's say uh diligent about letting our great stocks run and cutting off the ones that aren't. That's the key thing. You let your great stocks run, but if you can minimize your losses and be more aggressive in cutting, you will outperform the market, right? And you always have to remember when your original thesis when it's not playing out as as expected, that's when you may have to uh make an adjustment. And and I know in in some of those cases, we've often learned that our first sale is the best sale. true. When when trying to get out of a struggling game. Yeah. And I think that there's nothing wrong with admitting that you have a loss. What matters, as we were talking about the other day with Roger Federer, is you just win uh more than you lose. That's what you need to do. All right. Now, uh you know what? We're going to have to save the rest of the questions for next time. So, all I can say is I like to say there's always a market somewhere, and I promise try to find it just for you right here on Money. See you next time. All opinions expressed by Jim Kramer on this podcast are solely Kramer's opinions and do not reflect the opinions of CNBC, NBC Universal, or their parent company or affiliates and may have been previously disseminated by Kramer on television, radio, internet, or another medium. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Jim Kramer as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. 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